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Offline bsteves

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Re: AOTY 2010
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2010, 09:46:38 am »
Hey Brian,

Nice work on the new AOTY board looks great!  Thanks for all the work you put in on that.


Everyone else,

If you haven't checked out the AOTY tab lately, Brian has upgraded the look and feel.  Go check it out!

-Mark-

Thanks Mark!  I have a lot of room now for more pages/views of the data under the "Special Pages" tab. 

Here are some ideas I'm working on..

State by state rankings pages
A Fresshwater ranking page
A Saltwater ranking page
A true reverse ranking page (rank based on your score for your smallest of the small)
Old School rankings... see your score and ranking using the species groups and points we had in 2009 for comparison.


I'm also considering setting this site up as more of a fishing log application where you can record more information (location, weather, gear, etc..) about your fishing trips.  For example, adding drag and drop Google Maps for marking where you catch your fish (middle of the general area is fine).   From there we can create overview maps.  This information can be shared with other AOTY users or limited to yourself for your own personal information.

If anyone has some ideas let me know and I'll consider them.

Brian

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Re: AOTY 2010
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2010, 10:06:38 am »
How about a yearly AOTY stats page.  I found it usefully to track:
- People's current average points per fish
- Average points per species (based on history)
- Performance to average
- Remaining species potential (potential to catch a fish after a given point in time)
- Contestant handicaps based on location/catch record/experience.

Yeah, I know, I may have obsessed a little on the AOTY.  ::)  This year though, I'm a surfer 1st and the AOTY will just be my fishing log.   :angel:  Unless I get lucky early on.....   >:D

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Re: AOTY 2010
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2010, 10:22:00 am »

14. Rainbow trout 7 pts
19. Kokanee 6 pts
20. Tiger Muskie/Pike 4 pts

Could you please adjust Kokanee points? 

State records (Washington) for these fish are:

Rainbow      29.6
Kokanee       6.25

Kokanee usually don't get much more than 14" (the state record was likely a sockeye as it was caught in the Columbia river - lake Roosevelt)
...and rainbows can get really big.  Cutthroat could probably use a boost too.
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Re: AOTY 2010
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2010, 11:21:49 am »
Thanks Lee, I'll take those stats into consideration.  That may just be a typo too.  I know that NCKA has kokanee at 10 pts per inch for their AOTY.

Any other fish seem to be way off base?

BTW, I think Pike/Muskie are currently out.. and lake trout are in.



Spot, those are some great suggestions.

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Re: AOTY 2010
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2010, 12:03:53 pm »
Thanks Lee, I'll take those stats into consideration.  That may just be a typo too.  I know that NCKA has kokanee at 10 pts per inch for their AOTY.

Any other fish seem to be way off base?

BTW, I think Pike/Muskie are currently out.. and lake trout are in.



Spot, those are some great suggestions.

Panfish seems high, 16pts an inch?... as is, 10-12" perch is worth way more than a really nice ling, salmon, bass, halibut etc.  36-38 inch lings are trophy fish and would score 144 ish pts  10-12 inch perch aren't and would score 192 ish...  Seems like they should score similar to surf perch?
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Re: AOTY 2010
« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2010, 12:17:45 pm »
I agree with PP that panfish does seem high but wasn't going to say anything incase that was there for strategy reasons.

Not sure Kokanee deserve more points though cause I know where and how to catch 20-25 inchers.  But that's your call not mine ;D

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Re: AOTY 2010
« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2010, 12:25:00 pm »
I agree with PP that panfish does seem high but wasn't going to say anything incase that was there for strategy reasons.

Not sure Kokanee deserve more points though cause I know where and how to catch 20-25 inchers.  But that's your call not mine ;D

Are those really kokanee or sockeye? 
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Re: AOTY 2010
« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2010, 12:53:14 pm »
Let's say at this point that the fish species will not change, but that we will tweak the points per inch.  Hopefully no one has commited vast amounts of time to their AOTY strategy at this point in the game.

I also agree on the panfish rate being too high.  12 would be plenty.

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Re: AOTY 2010
« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2010, 04:48:07 pm »
Are those really kokanee or sockeye? 


Kokanee frequently get over 20".  Wallowa Lake seems to be a hotspot for Oregon.

Sockeye sized but a Kokanee.


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Re: AOTY 2010
« Reply #39 on: January 11, 2010, 04:54:24 pm »
Yep that's where, and that's a goodun' you got there :icon_thumleft:

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Re: AOTY 2010
« Reply #40 on: January 11, 2010, 04:55:16 pm »
Is this correct.  If a cutthroat trout is to be counted for AOTY points it has to be anadromous?

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Re: AOTY 2010
« Reply #41 on: January 11, 2010, 04:56:49 pm »
Yep that's where, and that's a goodun' you got there :icon_thumleft:

Not me, I wish, that's a trophy.

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Re: AOTY 2010
« Reply #42 on: January 11, 2010, 08:44:52 pm »
Is this correct.  If a cutthroat trout is to be counted for AOTY points it has to be anadromous?

NO not anymore.  The wording on that rule needs to change.  Thanks for catching it.

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Re: AOTY 2010
« Reply #43 on: January 12, 2010, 06:59:07 am »
Wow, they need to steal some eggs and put some of those up here in pierce county
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Re: AOTY 2010
« Reply #44 on: January 12, 2010, 02:42:17 pm »
Much thanks to Zee for updating the AOTY logo for us!  :love10:


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Re: AOTY 2010
« Reply #44 on: January 12, 2010, 02:42:17 pm »