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Re: Rigging for the Salmon Challenge
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2010, 09:21:04 am »
Spot, if you need a loner I can hook you up...


Thanks Pelagic!  I may take you up on that if I can't find one in time.  I'll let you know.

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Re: Rigging for the Salmon Challenge
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2010, 10:16:15 am »
Got another newbie question I'm planning on using a 6” Jonson flasher with a Herring. My question is how long should my leader from the main line swivel be? And how long should the leader from the back of the flasher to the Herring be?
And does anyone have a spot for me to crash on Friday night can't get a room, I decided to come last minute. PM me :-\

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Re: Rigging for the Salmon Challenge
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2010, 11:58:10 am »
Got another newbie question I'm planning on using a 6” Jonson flasher with a Herring. My question is how long should my leader from the main line swivel be? And how long should the leader from the back of the flasher to the Herring be?
And does anyone have a spot for me to crash on Friday night can't get a room, I decided to come last minute. PM me :-\

Thanks

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You could just tie straight to a banana weight with a chain swivel on each end, then 24 inches or so to the flasher with good swivels also, then 36 inches or so to the herring..

Personally i would use a rotating flasher, but the flat one will work, just more drag. It's better to use a slider/spreader with a dropper weight also, makes it easier to get you gear close to the bottom without it hitting the bottom.

good swivels, and alot of 'em are important!!  I need to get some new ones...
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Re: Rigging for the Salmon Challenge
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2010, 12:47:34 pm »
You can buy bead chains at most tackle stores.  Additionally, Kone Zone flashers already have bead chains on BOTH ends of the flasher.
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Re: Rigging for the Salmon Challenge
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2010, 01:16:12 pm »
Got another newbie question I'm planning on using a 6” Jonson flasher with a Herring. My question is how long should my leader from the main line swivel be? And how long should the leader from the back of the flasher to the Herring be?
And does anyone have a spot for me to crash on Friday night can't get a room, I decided to come last minute. PM me :-\

Thanks

Chuck (swiftdraw)


I usually connect the flasher to the mainline by a foot of leader and a bead chain swivel.  After the flasher, I'll run another bead chain and about 5' of leader to my bait.  The extra length between flasher and bait allows the herring to spin more naturally.

Also, I'm with CBY on the dropper.  I really like running my dropper on a sliding swivel.  Just make sure that your dropper length is shorter than the leader from the swivel to the flasher.  Too long and it can create a huge tangle.  Don't ask me how I know....

I have 2 campsites at Kamper's West.  If you don't mind having a bunch of kids around, you're more than welcome to pitch a tent in one of ours.  

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Re: Rigging for the Salmon Challenge
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2010, 03:29:53 pm »
I can't get out of work early on Friday as planned so I'll be showing up at Kamper's West around 7:30PM on Friday evening.  If anyone needs some help with their rigging, feel free to stop by.  I'm not sure what spots we're in but look for the giant red and white dome tent, the blue mini-van and dk grey Hona Accord with a yellow OC Trident 13 on the roof.

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Re: Rigging for the Salmon Challenge
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2010, 03:34:16 pm »
Not familiar with a "jonson flasher"...that sounds kinda dirty doesn't it? ;D

But... You do want to use a rotating flasher like a fish flash or a kone zone etc, not a in line "dodger" (the rectangular ones, like a les davis, red spot or others) they are designed to be used more with hootchies and shorter leaders and impart that tasty action to the hootchie.  That action is counterproductive to the action you are looking for when rolling cut plug herring.   Thus the use of flashers that just rotate around the axis of the line imparting no action, just attraction to the bait.
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Re: Rigging for the Salmon Challenge
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2010, 04:45:50 pm »
Sorry my BAD  :o I'll be using a 6" Jonson in green.
Thanks Spot I may just take you up on your offer and would love to talk tackle with ya!
Thanks to all the replies I think I may just catch a salmon!!



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Re: Rigging for the Salmon Challenge
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2010, 06:06:48 pm »
Sorry my BAD  :o I'll be using a 6" Jonson in green.
Thanks Spot I may just take you up on your offer and would love to talk tackle with ya!
Thanks to all the replies I think I may just catch a salmon!!



Chuck


LOL, still not feelin' ya on the jonson....err, i mean what the hay are you talkin about!!

Do you mean a luhr JENSEN 6 inch dodger/flasher in green? That would be best for a spinner or a hoochie like PP said.

you want one of these...Or a dees. Be worth getting one!!

http://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/index.php/page,35.html

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Re: Rigging for the Salmon Challenge
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2010, 09:04:08 pm »

It's a 6" Konezone Flasher... Apparently when ran a spell check it changed "Konezone" to "Jonson" kept hitting the wrong button  :BangHead:
Sorry about the confusion!!
I'm thinking of rigging it per spots advice...a 1ft leader from the main line swivel to the flasher then 5ft leader to a mooching rig with a 4/0 and a 3/0 hook with a 12 inch dropper to 1-3 ounce cannonball.
I have some Green Label herring that I have soaked in brine. I will be also be trying my luck with a Brads Supper Bait cut plug lure as well.

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Re: Rigging for the Salmon Challenge
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2010, 09:53:00 pm »

It's a 6" Konezone Flasher... Apparently when ran a spell check it changed "Konezone" to "Jonson" kept hitting the wrong button  :BangHead:
Sorry about the confusion!!
I'm thinking of rigging it per spots advice...a 1ft leader from the main line swivel to the flasher then 5ft leader to a mooching rig with a 4/0 and a 3/0 hook with a 12 inch dropper to 1-3 ounce cannonball.
I have some Green Label herring that I have soaked in brine. I will be also be trying my luck with a Brads Supper Bait cut plug lure as well.

Looks like your set....
See ya on the water..
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Re: Rigging for the Salmon Challenge
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2010, 07:02:53 am »

I'm thinking of rigging it per spots advice...a 1ft leader from the main line swivel to the flasher then 5ft leader to a mooching rig with a 4/0 and a 3/0 hook with a 12 inch dropper to 1-3 ounce cannonball.


You're probably going to need between 4 and 6oz of weight to keep your bait down.
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Re: Rigging for the Salmon Challenge
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2010, 07:17:51 am »
If Spot is in one of the tent sites, all of those are on the bank of the creek, in the back of the resort.
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Re: Rigging for the Salmon Challenge
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2010, 07:17:51 am »