Anybody tried these?

[ravdakot]

I can see where this could be way easier/more effective than plug cutting. I've got a pair of bright greens on order. Hope to get a chance to fish them before I go back to work on the 12th   I can only hope ol' Bill Shelton is Johnny on the spot with shipping.



http://www.sheltonproducts.com/FBR.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b9joPVCH9g

[Zee]

FBR's are a standby in NorCal. I've gotten a few with those. The Limit Out is a similar bait spinner that's got a lot of attention this year. As long as it gets the bait spinning I think they all work fine.
http://www.limitoutfishingproducts.com/product.htm

Z

[coosbayyaker]

I haven't used these but use a few artificials. Brads cut plug, pro troll killer. But so far i've caught both my Salmon on the real deal cut plug(sardine,herring,'chovie), match the bait thats's in.

I've heard that alot people use them and do well. I also know a yak angler that has been using one and hasn't got one yet. They sure spin nice.

[demonick]

I haven't used these but use a few artificials. Brads cut plug, pro troll killer. But so far i've caught both my Salmon on the real deal cut plug(sardine,herring,'chovie), match the bait thats's in.

I've heard that alot people use them and do well. I also know a yak angler that has been using one and hasn't got one yet. They sure spin nice.

Now you know two.

[ravdakot]

FBR's are a standby in NorCal. I've gotten a few with those. The Limit Out is a similar bait spinner that's got a lot of attention this year. As long as it gets the bait spinning I think they all work fine.
http://www.limitoutfishingproducts.com/product.htm

Z

Yeah, looks pretty similar. I hadn't seen those any where yet.

I was thinking the same thing about the bait spinning. Just looking for an easier/more durable way to roll a herring behind a flasher. I get plug cuts to roll nice and tight, but their so easy to tear.

[polepole]

FBR user here, unless I get fresh herring.  I'm usually too lazy to cure up herring and putting a "helmet" on frozen sure is easy.

Helmets and anchovies are standard fare on the west coast of Van Isle too.

-Allen

[ravdakot]

FBR user here, unless I get fresh herring.  I'm usually too lazy to cure up herring and putting a "helmet" on frozen sure is easy.

Helmets and anchovies are standard fare on the west coast of Van Isle too.

-Allen

So you're not even brining? Just frozen into a FBR?

[coosbayyaker]

FBR user here, unless I get fresh herring.  I'm usually too lazy to cure up herring and putting a "helmet" on frozen sure is easy.

Helmets and anchovies are standard fare on the west coast of Van Isle too.

-Allen

So you're not even brining? Just frozen into a FBR?

I'm pretty sure most frozen pre packaged baits are brined in some way. I froze some fresh sardines without brining and used them just a couple days later and they were junk.

I have never brined a package of store bought bait. Fresh jigged stuff i'll soak 'em in iced salt water overnight or just sprinkle them with dry salt and fridge overnight

[kallitype]

I bought 2 or 3 FBR, have caught one king on them--a 20# at Point Dalco, 75 feet down, in 2008.  I fished the FBR twice this summer, nada.  Have caught all my kings this year on Coho Killer (white Lightning) and Coyote spoon, Frog Race and Red Spot. 

[polepole]

FBR user here, unless I get fresh herring.  I'm usually too lazy to cure up herring and putting a "helmet" on frozen sure is easy.

Helmets and anchovies are standard fare on the west coast of Van Isle too.

-Allen

So you're not even brining? Just frozen into a FBR?

I might throw a bit of salt on them first thing in the morning as they defrost.  I do brine sometimes, but again, I'm lazy and often forget.

-Allen

[polepole]

I'm pretty sure most frozen pre packaged baits are brined in some way. I froze some fresh sardines without brining and used them just a couple days later and they were junk.

I have never brined a package of store bought bait. Fresh jigged stuff i'll soak 'em in iced salt water overnight or just sprinkle them with dry salt and fridge overnight

Commercially available bait is flash frozen.  The flash freezing process keeps them from entirely turning to mush.

-Allen

[wolverine]

 I rarely use helmets here in WA. In BC yes. 11" Hotspot flasher 5'-7' leader and a chovie. Of course fished from a power boat as 11" flashers have too much drag for most yak fishers. Chovies come frozen and are kept frozen until the night before they will be used. Then put in a very heavy salt brine to toughen them up. Here in WA I use fresh dead herring rigged whole as they have too much fat in them to plug cut and they just turn mushy when plugged. The only way that I'll plug cut fresh herring is if its been held and starved for a couple of weeks to shrink the gut and reduce the fats. Most (not all) frozen herring is starved out before being killed, packed, and vacuum frozen. Frozen herring needs to be brined at least overnight to firm it up before plug cutting. Salmon U's website has a very good basic brine. You can brine fresh dead herring but they still will blow out their bellies after a short time even rigged whole. In the old days processors used to kill herring with formaldehyde but now nearly all just electrocute them.

[polepole]

Man ... this whole conversation is dragging up a smell memory.  Anyone remember Ballard Bait and Tackle?  We used to get a scoop of fresh bait there before launching at Shilshole on our way over to Jeff Head.  We're talking early 80's.  Right now I can smell that place.  Mmmmm ....

-Allen

[Fishin-Jay]

Having recently moved from Cali I can say that I have used them, but not for salmon since the past few years have been terrible for salmon fishing.

I use them for halibut trolling, usually with herring in the FBR/RSK, but sometimes with anchovie or sardine. I've never brined them. I just slip them into the clip or pin (depending on the model) and then use a bit of stretchy bait string wrapped lightly around the bait to keep the hook near the tail. When drifting and bottom bouncing aren't working I can usually troll one up with this rig. 

BTW, I prefer the RSK to the FBR. I think the RSK clip holds your bait more securely than the FBR pin does. Also, you never have to worry about losing the pin (or toothpick, or whatever) if you use an RSK.
http://www.histackleboxshop.com/Pro-Troll-E-Rotary-Salmon-Killer-Lure-With-E-Chip-p/pro-troll-e-rotary-sal-19.htm

[coosbayyaker]

I've been getting fresh Sardines from Umpua Bait on my way to fish the Umpqua. Awesome bait, stays on forever and looks as good as it did when new after a long time trolling.

Man ... this whole conversation is dragging up a smell memory.  Anyone remember Ballard Bait and Tackle?  We used to get a scoop of fresh bait there before launching at Shilshole on our way over to Jeff Head.  We're talking early 80's.  Right now I can smell that place.  Mmmmm ....

-Allen

i smell it!!  except for me it was leaving the harbor in Olympia and pulling up to the live bait pen and getting a couple scoops before going fishing..Circa 1975-79

My little bro and I fishing in Puget Sound, late 70's...