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Topic: Fish and Parasites  (Read 20597 times)

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Bumping this old guy up again.  I've heard various ways to supposedly keep the worms from moving into the flesh - gutting at sea, putting on ice immediately (whole), etc.  Does anybody gut their halibut/ling cod at sea to (supposedly) keep the worms from moving into the flesh?  I typically just catch and throw in a burlap sack and occasionally dip back into the ocean to keep cool but am all ears for suggestions


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Resurection of the dead and ugly! I love it!

I dont know of anybody wasting fishing time immediately gutting their fish out on a kayak.

I am a beliver in bleeding out the fish though.  By my observation, that has a very noticeable effect of the meat quality, and that makes seeing and picking out the reddish color of the worms a whole lot easier when the meat is opaque white vs. pinkish-red bloody. This is what I a have found that works for me since I started this post.
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Bleed out and field dress all animals one intends to keep. Drastically effects the quality of the meat and ultimately slows decay.


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Fungunnin

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Bleed out and field dress all animals one intends to keep. Drastically effects the quality of the meat and ultimately slows decay.


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While that sounds great you are making some very sweeping generalizations there...
I would agree that bleeding all fish is necessary abut I would not agree that it is necessary to dress all fish. Some fish respond differently to being left in the round.
Some species you can leave in the round for a week and still have good fillets. Some you shouldn't leave 24 hours. 


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Bleed out and field dress all animals one intends to keep. Drastically effects the quality of the meat and ultimately slows decay.


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While that sounds great you are making some very sweeping generalizations there...
I would agree that bleeding all fish is necessary abut I would not agree that it is necessary to dress all fish. Some fish respond differently to being left in the round.
Some species you can leave in the round for a week and still have good fillets. Some you shouldn't leave 24 hours.
pls elaborate as growing up with a hunting and fishing background I have always dressed any animal no mater what its make up, as to avoid spoilage. Gutting an animal helps bring its tissue temperature down while removing potentially dangerous bacteria, keeping the meat fresh. I can't disagree with you completely Gunnin as I absolutely do not know everything and if there is a species better left in the round I would be happy to learn what species and perhaps why?


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Fungunnin

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There aren't species that keep better in the round. Just some that it is unnecessary to gut.
Namely rockfish. Their guts will not eat through the belly lining like salmon or cod will. Simply bleeding and chilling is plenty of prep.
If you want to gut your rockfish on the water go for it but you are asking to cut, spine or otherwise hurt yourself for no marked benefit. 

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There aren't species that keep better in the round. Just some that it is unnecessary to gut.
Namely rockfish. Their guts will not eat through the belly lining like salmon or cod will. Simply bleeding and chilling is plenty of prep.
If you want to gut your rockfish on the water go for it but you are asking to cut, spine or otherwise hurt yourself for no marked benefit. 

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I dunno.  If you eat your rockfish whole, it will benefit from a quick gutting.  Rockfish can get a slight, unpleasant "belly flavor" if left in the round too long.  If you filet them and toss the carcs, then yeah, just bleed.

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There aren't species that keep better in the round. Just some that it is unnecessary to gut.
Namely rockfish. Their guts will not eat through the belly lining like salmon or cod will. Simply bleeding and chilling is plenty of prep.
If you want to gut your rockfish on the water go for it but you are asking to cut, spine or otherwise hurt yourself for no marked benefit. 

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Fungunnin, could you expand a bit on gutting salmanoid species? By that I mean, say you're fishing kokanee, trout, or steelhead all day and you've got a couple in the fish bag on ice. It's going to be another 7-8 hrs before you get home to fillet them. Assuming the fish stay cool till then is there a drastic difference in the meat quality between a fish that was bled, gutted, and stuck on ice as opposed to one that was just bled and iced?
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You will never find a fish in market left in round as it is unsanitary an fish meat will take on the flavour of its stomach and contents.


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You will never find a fish in market left in round as it is unsanitary an fish meat will take on the flavour of its stomach and contents.


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Ummm ... lots of Asian food markets carry fish in the round.

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You can find out yourself next time your out catch two fish of the same species, area and size. Gut the first immediately and leave the second round. Store both fish in the same fashion. Once home prepare some of each fish in the same manor and you will defiantly taste a differance.


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You will never find a fish in market left in round as it is unsanitary an fish meat will take on the flavour of its stomach and contents.


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Don't make statements you know nothing about. Any decent fish market will have some fish left in the round.

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SturgeonRod

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You will never find a fish in market left in round as it is unsanitary an fish meat will take on the flavour of its stomach and contents.


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Ummm ... lots of Asian food markets carry fish in the round.

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lol I realize there are accept ions to every rule. By market I meant modern north american markets ie Safeway,wallmart ect. not all markets will practice the same preparation methods. Traditional preparation methods will vary by culture. None the less all persons grow up consuming different flavours and as I have noted above the only way to tell is to compare finished flavours between alternate methods of preparation.


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Fungunnin

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You will never find a fish in market left in round as it is unsanitary an fish meat will take on the flavour of its stomach and contents.


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Ummm ... lots of Asian food markets carry fish in the round.

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lol I realize there are accept ions to every rule. By market I meant modern north american markets ie Safeway,wallmart ect. not all markets will practice the same preparation methods. Traditional preparation methods will vary by culture. None the less all persons grow up consuming different flavours and as I have noted above the only way to tell is to compare finished flavours between alternate methods of preparation.


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I'm sorry you consider Safeway and Walmart your fish stores of choice. Though that does speak directly to your general lack of understanding about seafood handling.

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SturgeonRod

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You will never find a fish in market left in round as it is unsanitary an fish meat will take on the flavour of its stomach and contents.


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Don't make statements you know nothing about. Any decent fish market will have some fish left in the round.

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correction in my experience I have not found any edible game fish kept in the round. My apologies :)


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