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Topic: How do you pee from a kayak?  (Read 34540 times)

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Skidplate

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There are a couple female friendly options on the market that I've heard good results from my wife's realm of friends:
The Shewee and the Go-girl; both are more or less a plastic phallus.

I'm not a fan of kneeling up while in rough seas. Somehow the rougher the water the more apt I am to have the urge. If it's calm, I can hold it forever. Regardless, I always try to kneel first, but abort the attempt before establishing a stream. This is usually due to the thoughts of a future me falling in the ocean with gallons of seawater rushing in through my nether-regions.

I have had the thought of some type of hose similar to the above mentioned devices, but anatomically shaped to fit dudes. Anybody try that? Don't astronauts use a similar hose so they don't pee all over in space?
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I'm glad someone else brought this up so I didn't have to. I'm pretty much screwed with my current setup on the ocean though: farmer john = no way to zip down without taking off everything including PFD. When I'm not wearing immersion gear I just water the scupper holes.

Good tip(s) for the ladies!


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In my Caper, the footwells don't drain out the scuppers so that option is out. I have always taken a ziplock baggy, but it's kinda tricky. Last couple of times I just used the hog trough and managed to get everything over the side ok!
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Ironic timing on this thread. I was just pondering this yesterday, now that I've ordered my dry suit w/relief zip. Part of my motivation was being tired of having to head ashore with the dry top/waders combo.  Some of my coworkers have used the term "baby bladder" on me, so this topic is a real concern for me. Valuable info!
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I have two methods. One is to straddle the kayak with my legs hanging off the side. Then I lean forward and hook ankles on the underside of the boat. Then pee into the footwell or drivewell. Option two is to just lean back and make the rainbow. Option one is less messy but option two is faster and I can even do it while pedaling. If you are working hard to cover a good distance staying hydrated is pretty important.


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I have two methods. One is to straddle the kayak with my legs hanging off the side. Then I lean forward and hook ankles on the underside of the boat. Then pee into the footwell or drivewell. Option two is to just lean back and make the rainbow. Option one is less messy but option two is faster and I can even do it while pedaling. If you are working hard to cover a good distance staying hydrated is pretty important.
+1 on the second method...though I've never tried while pedaling!
+2 on staying hydrated. Mucho importante.
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I have two methods. One is to straddle the kayak with my legs hanging off the side. Then I lean forward and hook ankles on the underside of the boat. Then pee into the footwell or drivewell. Option two is to just lean back and make the rainbow. Option one is less messy but option two is faster and I can even do it while pedaling. If you are working hard to cover a good distance staying hydrated is pretty important.
+1 on the second method...though I've never tried while pedaling!
+2 on staying hydrated. Mucho importante.
pedal peeling is a must while trolling. Glad to hear I'm not alone on this one.


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I'm fine with taking a break from the troll so I can water the sea weed. I don't think it's that important.
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A relief tube like is on some aircraft would work.  Just a flexible tube that goes overboard with sort of a funnel on the end.
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Assuming you can unzip......A plastic "male urinal" from Wally-World works well....about $6.00... :angel:


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Kokatat has (had?) dry suits with specific "women" relief zipper.


I don't have a dry suit, I have wet suits only, so I bought some neoprene, zipper, velcro and I took one of my wet suits to a sewer who for $40 sewed in the zipper exactly the Kokatat way. Not sure what SINK people would do in a such case.


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This thread is AWESOME!!!!  :banjo:
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I had a relief zipper installed in my farmer john at Eugene Skin Divers years ago. I think it was $35. Best investment ever!
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Ditto on Noah's method for me. As an aside, I am told there is a fine if the game warden catches you putting urine in the water. One has to wonder about proof on that one... "You have a video officer, really, you pervert.  Oh, now you have handcuffs and you want me to get in your van?"  I'm sure this sounded funnier in my head.
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If you do a lot of fishing in cold turbulent water a long way from shore, frequently wear a dry suit, and don’t like the idea of trying to pee through a relief zipper in those conditions, you could install a pee valve in your dry suit.  It’s an expensive option, but works great.

I do a lot of spearfishing from my kayak.  I set up a line of diver down buoys along a weed line, anchor my kayak over the weeds, and snorkel around whacking pike.  I typically spend 4-6 hours in the water during a day of spearfishing.



During a day of spearfishing, periodically I would think, “huh, I kind of need to take a pee.”  Then fifteen minutes later I would realize “wow, I REALLY need to pee.”  The character of the shorelines and lake bottoms in the lakes where I do most of my spearfishing makes it tough to swim into shallow water, stand up, and pee.  So I’d need to churn a hundred yards or more back to my kayak, climb into the kayak, and then struggle with the process of peeing through my relief zipper, hampered by the many layers of insulating clothing I was wearing.  It was a big hassle, which I’d often need to repeat several times during a day of spearfishing.

Scuba divers who use dry suits have the same problem on long dives.  Their solutions are (a) dehydrate yourself, which creates other problems, and doesn’t always work, (b) wear disposable diapers, which is messy and disgusting, or (c) install a pee valve.  A pee valve is a valve which is installed someplace on the thigh of a dry suit.  There are “balanced” and “unbalanced” pee valves.  Balanced valves work better on deep dives, but cost more.  A hose runs from the pee valve to an external catheter.  A male external catheter is like an adhesive-lined condom with a short section of rubber hose on the tip.  The catheter is attached to the end of the hose which runs to the pee valve.  There are external catheters for women, but I don’t know anything about them.  External catheters are available at medical supply stores. 



I have installed a balanced pee valve in my spearfishing drysuit, and have been really happy with its performance while spearfishing.  Any time I feel the urge to pee, I can just let loose, without any interruption in the spearfishing process.  If members of this forum have any interest in pee valve systems, I could do a posting on the details of these systems.

However, when kayak fishing, I only use my pee valve when the weather is so cold and inclement that I’m wearing my dry suit, and I’m going to be a long way from shore.  Consequently, usually when I’m fishing I’m trying to pee like everybody else.  And I haven’t figured out a way to do it yet which is convenient and safe.  One option would be to attach an external catheter to a length of hose, and run the hose down my pant leg.  When I want to pee, I could just hang my leg over the side of my kayak.  However, I’m looking for a lower-tech method which works when wearing pants in warm weather, and probably a different system which works when wearing waders or dry pants in cooler weather, and appreciate all of your thoughtful and insightful suggestions.
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