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Topic: Missing kayak crabber- Seaside :-(  (Read 5026 times)

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Hooper

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So sad to read this.


INSAYN

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why would someone go out there with no pfd? if it takes a law with huge fines for one to do so maybe that should be done. we have to wear seat belts so why not. no pfd, no go...period.
My dad died two years ago and it took eight days to find his body in 300' at the bottom of Lake Mead.  He died immediately, but if wearing a PFD it would have saved our family eight days of extraordinary suffering.

Park Ranger said that if it was law to wear a PFD, it would affect tourism and usage of the lake?

Dave

So safety takes a back seat to tourism dollars for Lake Mead? 

Helmets and seat belts are required by law on the road, I don't see why PFD usage couldn't be required for specific activities on water. 
 

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Spot

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I'd like to avoid having safety legislated for kayakers.  It does not stop with a pfd requirement. Kayak safety laws justify mandatory yak licenses to pay for enforcement $$$ and also leaves the door open to shutting down specific venues that can't easily be patrolled.

I'd much rather handle this at a grassroots level and accept the fact that some will slip thru the safety net.

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Trident 13

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Sad deal, no disrespect intended, but +1 for Spot/Mark.
The times may be “more modern”, but...

"A venturesome minority will always be eager to get off on their own,and no obstacle should be placed in their path;
let them take risk, for God sake, let them get lost, sun burnt, stranded, drowned,eaten by bears, buried alive under avalanches -that is the right and privilege of any free American."
--Edward Abbey--

« Last Edit: January 06, 2018, 11:05:09 AM by Trident 13 »


Lee

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I'd like to avoid having safety legislated for kayakers.  It does not stop with a pfd requirement. Kayak safety laws justify mandatory yak licenses to pay for enforcement $$$ and also leaves the door open to shutting down specific venues that can't easily be patrolled.

I'd much rather handle this at a grassroots level and accept the fact that some will slip thru the safety net.

-Mark-
Same here.  Too much safety results in very limited freedom.

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I'm going to agree with INSAYN on this.  It's already mandatory to have a FD or a PFD for every person on board, and that requirement hasn't justified licensing personal water craft or kayaks to pay for enforcement.
 
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