NorthWest Kayak Anglers
Kayak Fishing => The Kayak Shack => Topic started by: NoYaks on August 29, 2014, 10:01:01 AM
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I have a 240CM BB Angler Classic for my Predator 13.
What is the length of the factory paddles provided with the Revo 13 and the Outback?
I know the 240 would work, but I'm curious what Hobie provides. I'm guessing a 230 on the Revo. Am I correct?
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That's like asking how long a turd is... It doesn't matter, cause it's a turd. And as soon as it hits rough water it's gonna break up. ;)
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That's like asking how long a turd is... It doesn't matter, cause it's a turd. And as soon as it hits rough water it's gonna break up. ;)
Based on what little I've seen of Hobie supplied paddles, you'd be better off using your BB 240 rather than the stock paddle when you eventually get a Hobie.
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Hobie paddles are the equivalent of those little donut spare tires.
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I believe they are 230 cm which is the size I prefer. Also, they are not bad for a stock paddle. Beats aluminum. I thought I read somewhere once, they were made by Bending Branches.
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Thanks Craig appreciate the answer. Just ordered a Werner Camano 230 to be sent to my local REI.
Read an interesting article about paddles and the author say to get the best you can afford and plan on any paddle breaking if put to extremes. That said the Werner paddles seem to have a pretty good following due to reputation.
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The paddle that came with my 2014 Outback is 230 cm, I just measured it.
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I believe they are 230 cm which is the size I prefer. Also, they are not bad for a stock paddle. Beats aluminum. I thought I read somewhere once, they were made by Bending Branches.
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Craig, Redbeard, are you saying the stock Hobie paddle is adequate? Just trying to figure out if I'll be wise to upgrade the minute I buy my 2015 Outback.
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Just ordered a Werner Camano 230 to be sent to my local REI.
Read an interesting article about paddles and the author say to get the best you can afford
Good call, and funny enough I just quoted "to buy the best you can afford" during my seminars this week. I didn't plagiarize though, just believe the same. You loose a lot of energy with most inexpensive poly blade paddles due to flex. Plus they tend to be heavy. Carbon handle with glass blades is where the moneys at! you can go full carbon, but the additional $$ for the few ounces gained isn't worth the trade IMO.
Craig, Redbeard, are you saying the stock Hobie paddle is adequate? Just trying to figure out if I'll be wise to upgrade the minute I buy my 2015 Outback.
Your Hobie paddle will be fine for your Outback. I agree with Lee calling it a doughnut spare. Not great for all day paddling. Since it's not your primary power it'll do when you need it.
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It's true that the older Hobie paddles were not great. I used a Werner Skagit instead. However, the new paddles that Hobie provides with their 2015 models are pretty dang awesome in my book. Light-weight fiberglass shaft and the blades, which are made by Cannon Paddles, have a different shape than previous models.
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Rawk, are the blades on the new Hobie paddles glass or poly?
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Craig, Redbeard, are you saying the stock Hobie paddle is adequate? Just trying to figure out if I'll be wise to upgrade the minute I buy my 2015 Outback.
I don't see any noticeable difference between my 2014 Hobie paddle and my Bending Branches paddle I use for my single, paddle kayak. I have had a few occasions (aka "oh sh!+ moments") to get my paddle out in a hurry and push some water and it's been fine. I even stuck it in the surf once without event.
It seems others have had different experiences. All I can figure is that the paddles have improved over time and/or expectations vary wildly. I think some people are just harder on their equipment than others too; it explains a lot of the reports regarding longevity of certain rod brands, electronics, etc.
I should add the disclaimer that I am not a hardcore kayaker of any sort. I'm a fisherman who kayaks, not the other way around. People tell me Hobie paddles are garbage, but they seem to work for me. People tell me Penn reels are garbage, but they seem to work for me.
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Still have ploy blades
Penn aren't garbage as a whole, just depends on the model. Just like you can get a $20 Shimano spinning reel or an $800 Stella. The Fathom seems solid, and I LOVE my Battle. I'm certain there's more too, those are just the current models I know personally. I've not used a '15 Hobie paddle yet, but the prior models feel kind of loose, they're heavy, and I know of two that failed under heavy paddling. Not surfing, or using it as a push pole, just paddling hard. None of my 4 ever failed even when I beat on them, but they definitely feel shitty in the hand. We use a bunch of them for HOW events without a fail yet. If you're gonna pedal even the pre '15 paddles will get you by. If you intend to paddle spend a few dollars on something nice.
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I believe the blades of the 2015 paddles are a fiberglass reinforced nylon but I'm not 100% sure.
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My 2017 Hobie paddle is 230cm length. Every kayak site I've seen recommends a 240cm length paddle for someone my height (5'10") and a 33" wide (Outback) kayak. I want a new paddle that gives me a chance to paddle to safety in wind and swell when my Mirage Drive breaks again. I don't know what the Hobie paddle weighs, but I'd like something lighter. I like the idea of yellow blades which could be used to signal in an emergency.
Any recommendations within a $150 budget? I imagine a lighter paddle will be made of more fragile materials that I'll need to take care of.
It's a little outside your listed price range, but I really like the Adventure Technology Odyssey Angler. Lightweight, infinite feathering, and oversized paddle blades to get more oomph out of every stroke. You can also adjust the length for an additional 10cm, giving you better odds of finding the sweet spot for your paddling needs. The painted ruler on the shaft and line catcher on one of the blades are cool too--I use the ruler all the time for quick OTW fish measurements. When I busted a Mirage Drive mast a few miles northwest of Depoe Bay last fall, the Odyssey paddled my Revo 13 back to port with no issues. Of course, it's great for paddle kayaks as well ;D.
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My 2017 Hobie paddle is 230cm length. Every kayak site I've seen recommends a 240cm length paddle for someone my height (5'10") and a 33" wide (Outback) kayak. I want a new paddle that gives me a chance to paddle to safety in wind and swell when my Mirage Drive breaks again. I don't know what the Hobie paddle weighs, but I'd like something lighter. I like the idea of yellow blades which could be used to signal in an emergency.
Any recommendations within a $150 budget? I imagine a lighter paddle will be made of more fragile materials that I'll need to take care of.
It's a little outside your listed price range, but I really like the Adventure Technology Odyssey Angler. Lightweight, infinite feathering, and oversized paddle blades to get more oomph out of every stroke. You can also adjust the length for an additional 10cm, giving you better odds of finding the sweet spot for your paddling needs. The painted ruler on the shaft and line catcher on one of the blades are cool too--I use the ruler all the time for quick OTW fish measurements. When I busted a Mirage Drive mast a few miles northwest of Depoe Bay last fall, the Odyssey paddled my Revo 13 back to port with no issues. Of course, it's great for paddle kayaks as well ;D.
Pshhh paddling a revo is easy compared to an Outback.... throw an extra $100 on your price and you can get a quality paddle that will last many years, the fiberglass and composite paddles are way lighter but surprisingly stronger. I use a Werner and paddle my Big Tuna with it and hand it on my my Native propel kayaks unless someone else’s arse is in my Tuna, then they have it.
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I have an Adventure Technology Search Angler for my Outback that's 240cm. About $150
https://www.atpaddles.com/us/paddles/search-angler
The only time I've used it for any length of time was floating the Nehalem with Mojo a couple of years ago. It was right after all the winter rains and the river was moving along pretty good. I mostly used it for steering, the river took care of the forward momentum.
Honestly, it's an Outback, its going to suck to paddle it. I'd much rather try and fix my drive on the water if I'm able then have to paddle it. I keep a small tool box and parts box in my front hatch bucket. I also have a bow line and hopefully a friend close by to pull me in if need be. If the worst happens then last resort, I have a paddle... to wave in the air for some help. :spittake:
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Pshhh paddling a revo is easy compared to an Outback....
True. That's one of the reasons I haven't pulled the trigger on an Outback :). But an Outback can indeed be paddled. My brother has the same AT Odyssey paddle as me, and fishes exclusively from an Outback. He puts in way more miles on the salt than me, and when he has a Mirage Drive snafu, he's had to paddle that Outback in crap conditions several times, including at least one five mile trudge from the Pac halibut grounds off Trinidad in whitecapping conditions.
The kayak fishing scene's changed a lot over the last ten years, to the point where paddling is almost an afterthought. IMO, knowing how to paddle properly is an invaluable safety skill. If your Mirage or Propel or Helix or whatever drive craps out, it'll give you peace of mind if you know you can get back home using only your paddle.