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Not Necessarily Kayak Fishing => Other Paddlecraft => Topic started by: salemite on July 31, 2015, 03:51:51 PM

Title: Seadoo fishing
Post by: salemite on July 31, 2015, 03:51:51 PM
I'm tired of doing yard work on the weekends because the ocean is too rough or the winds are too strong or the tides are not right.   I also can't afford a boat capable of safely getting me into the ocean, where I love to fish.  So what do you think of using a Seadoo for fishing?  I haven't been able to find much information or many products on line, is there a reason for that?  What are your thoughts?  I don't need anything fancy like the one in this picture, but the ability to carry more gear, go further faster and get out on days that are not suitable for a kayak, appeal to me.  What do you think of this??
 
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: Lee on July 31, 2015, 04:06:05 PM
It's actually really common on the east coast, and I've been hearing about a guy doing it out of westport on the regular now.  I've been considering it as well.
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: cdat on July 31, 2015, 04:10:09 PM
I know there is a group out of So Calif that go tuna fishing off sea doos or other types. Some great vids on You tube, looks to be pretty fun.
John
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: salemite on July 31, 2015, 04:19:31 PM
I've been watching them on craigslist for a while and they are a lot less than what I was expecting.  I'm just tired of being side lined by rough conditions and the thought of being able to go further, faster and safer are appealing. 
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: sherminator on July 31, 2015, 04:34:43 PM
go to YouTube and check out matthew dornin and Matthew Huntington. They fish off of SeaDoos out of Netarts, Depoe Bay, and Nehalem.

Watching the videos, I wouldn't say that they can handle rougher water, but they can handle surf better by running back & forth along sets and taking advantage of the low spots. And they can cover a lot of water quickly when conditions permit.
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: sumpNZ on July 31, 2015, 04:46:30 PM
go to YouTube and check out matthew dornin and Matthew Huntington. They fish off of SeaDoos out of Netarts, Depoe Bay, and Nehalem.

Watching the videos, I wouldn't say that they can handle rougher water, but they can handle surf better by running back & forth along sets and taking advantage of the low spots. And they can cover a lot of water quickly when conditions permit.

Yeah, not sure I'd go on a Seadoo when it's a no-go on a kayak.  Only exception to that might be wind since you're not having to physically paddle/pedal against it.  But stiff wind usually also means choppy seas so it'll be a small minority of windy days that it's otherwise calm enough.
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: AKFISHRIPPER on July 31, 2015, 06:50:20 PM
Jet skis are awesome for fishing, the only downside is usually they require a launch ramp
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: Lee on July 31, 2015, 07:27:34 PM
go to YouTube and check out matthew dornin and Matthew Huntington. They fish off of SeaDoos out of Netarts, Depoe Bay, and Nehalem.

Watching the videos, I wouldn't say that they can handle rougher water, but they can handle surf better by running back & forth along sets and taking advantage of the low spots. And they can cover a lot of water quickly when conditions permit.

Yeah, not sure I'd go on a Seadoo when it's a no-go on a kayak.  Only exception to that might be wind since you're not having to physically paddle/pedal against it.  But stiff wind usually also means choppy seas so it'll be a small minority of windy days that it's otherwise calm enough.
They make deep V versions with 260HP. They laugh at large swells and wind.
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: sumpNZ on July 31, 2015, 07:51:39 PM
go to YouTube and check out matthew dornin and Matthew Huntington. They fish off of SeaDoos out of Netarts, Depoe Bay, and Nehalem.

Watching the videos, I wouldn't say that they can handle rougher water, but they can handle surf better by running back & forth along sets and taking advantage of the low spots. And they can cover a lot of water quickly when conditions permit.

Yeah, not sure I'd go on a Seadoo when it's a no-go on a kayak.  Only exception to that might be wind since you're not having to physically paddle/pedal against it.  But stiff wind usually also means choppy seas so it'll be a small minority of windy days that it's otherwise calm enough.
They make deep V versions with 260HP. They laugh at large swells and wind.

Doesn't mean I would be comfortable with that. :puke:
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: Mark Collett on July 31, 2015, 08:53:33 PM

  Based on the videos that I have seen........ that would be an absolute blast.

 My main concern would be having mechanical problems if you were way offshore. Then what do you do ???
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: CraigVM62 on July 31, 2015, 09:18:57 PM

  Based on the videos that I have seen........ that would be an absolute blast.

 My main concern would be having mechanical problems if you were way offshore. Then what do you do ???

I was thinking the same thing.  Guess it is one of those things where you need to get your fishing buddies enthused enough to also make the same purchase.   Safety in numbers and make certain someone packed a tow rope.

Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: salemite on August 01, 2015, 05:40:01 AM
What do you think about carrying an extra battery and small electric trolling motor?   Wouldn't be necessary if you were going with others.
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: salemite on August 01, 2015, 05:43:27 AM
Anyone interested should check out the videos that Sherminator recommended,  they are awesome.   Two guys from Oregon that use seadoos to get out to the tuna.   Looks like a blast, I see two kayaks for sale in my near future.
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: [WR] on August 01, 2015, 09:14:37 AM
There's a pretty healthy underground community in Cali. targeting the San Clemente area mostly.  But an even bigger one out in Hawaii. Can't recall the sport fishing magazine that's popular in Hawaii but there's a corresponding website with a sub page dedicated to just this sport.

I've noticed that some of the more extreme guys have a small sled they tow behind them that carry extra fuel, tool box and cooler.

Besides the fun and individuality factors, why not just spend about the same amount of money on a standard power boat?
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: Lee on August 01, 2015, 09:19:43 AM
Because a standard power boat of the same price is not safe offshore in anything but the best of conditions.  I feel kayaks are safer than small powerboats as well.
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: Mojo Jojo on August 01, 2015, 09:44:39 AM
Anyone interested should check out the videos that Sherminator recommended,  they are awesome.   Two guys from Oregon that use seadoos to get out to the tuna.   Looks like a blast, I see two kayaks for sale in my near future.
Hit me up when they go on the sale block. I may consider this avenue for deep reef fishing but the yak is here to stay, with my bad hip it's the only form of real exercise I can handle plus the "smokers" still run on gas and will cost to maintain.
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: CraigVM62 on August 01, 2015, 09:58:32 AM
With today's PWC having so much horsepower,  I could see them towing a couple of kayaks out at a pretty good pace with ease.  Maybe they could be seen as a "Mini-Mothership" for some farther off shore action.   :D
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: Long_Shot on August 01, 2015, 10:22:38 AM

 My main concern would be having mechanical problems if you were way offshore. Then what do you do ???
Personally, I would do the same thing every every other boater does - call for help on the radio. I would guess these are slightly safer than any other type of boat in the ocean. I've seen guys do amazing feats with these in huge surf that no other type of boat would ever attempt.
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: Kyle M on August 01, 2015, 12:42:58 PM
This is from a few weeks ago.  Yes it was fun, but I'd never get rid of my kayak. 
https://vimeo.com/134522731
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: Lee on August 01, 2015, 01:00:43 PM
Looks like a lot of fun
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: Widgeonmangh on August 02, 2015, 05:26:23 AM
It will be interesting to see if the Jetski industry sees an opportunity to modify its boats specifically for the niche of fishing.  I suspect that a Seadoo made specifically with fishing as one of (if not the main) purposes might end up looking a little different?  Kind of when fishing kayaks started showing up rather than just people fishing out of kayaks.

I like the innovation and can see where buddies would be really important.
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: salemite on August 02, 2015, 10:27:43 AM
Thanks for the video Kyle, it does look like a lot of fun.  I have enjoyed my kayaks as well but don't have the luxury of choosing my days.   Both my boats are up for sale now.  Hit me up, I will make you a great deal.
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: ZeeHawk on August 02, 2015, 11:35:55 AM
Super fun looking. In a fishing sense, not sure how much more a PWC can take over us kayakers but they can definitely charge a long way and you wouldn't get as tired. They also launch really well off beaches so ramps are not really needed. Just a beach you can drive onto. Check out http://jetskifishing.co.nz and http://www.jetskisportfishing.com The New Zealand guys have some sweet rigs.
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: Dark Tuna on August 03, 2015, 04:58:53 PM

Jet skis are awesome for fishing, the only downside is usually they require a launch ramp
Many moons ago I raced Sea Doos (runabouts as they're called in the IJSBA).  You can find plenty of beach carts to get the boat from your trailer to the water.

For fishing you will want a three seater and be mindful of your range.  Use 1/3 tank of gas outbound, 1/3 for return, and 1/3 for reserve.
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: leefromseattle on August 03, 2015, 06:28:03 PM
With today's PWC having so much horsepower,  I could see them towing a couple of kayaks out at a pretty good pace with ease.  Maybe they could be seen as a "Mini-Mothership" for some farther off shore action.   :D

I had a 12' inflatable with an 9.9hp outboard when I was younger, I ran out of gas once and a guy on a wave runner with his daughter towed me home and he was able to pull me faster than I could go full throttle with the 9.9...I was blown away.
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: Dark Tuna on August 03, 2015, 11:53:42 PM
Anyone interested should check out the videos that Sherminator recommended,  they are awesome.   Two guys from Oregon that use seadoos to get out to the tuna.   Looks like a blast, I see two kayaks for sale in my near future.
Hit me up when they go on the sale block. I may consider this avenue for deep reef fishing but the yak is here to stay, with my bad hip it's the only form of real exercise I can handle plus the "smokers" still run on gas and will cost to maintain.
Don't think that a SeaDoo in the ocean isn't work.  And yes, you can huli a SeaDoo... ;D
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: salemite on August 04, 2015, 10:22:45 AM
I keep hearing stories of people from this site, that have bought personal water craft for fishing or are in the process of buying them.  Not sure why no one is posting up their stories or offering advice.  Am I crossing the line, looking for more info here?  Or do the rest of you want to hear the stories and see the videos from these people?   Would PWC stories and videos be welcome here as well?  Seems to be a growing sport. 
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: Captain Redbeard on August 04, 2015, 03:38:11 PM
I keep hearing stories of people from this site, that have bought personal water craft for fishing or are in the process of buying them.  Not sure why no one is posting up their stories or offering advice.  Am I crossing the line, looking for more info here?  Or do the rest of you want to hear the stories and see the videos from these people?   Would PWC stories and videos be welcome here as well?  Seems to be a growing sport.

I've seen them launching out of Pacific City. It seems like an interesting thing, but I'm not sure a site for kayak anglers, in a sub-forum called "Let's talk kayak fishing" is the best place to stir up enthusiasm.  ;)
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: Mark Collett on August 04, 2015, 05:27:47 PM

  How about a sub-thread ?

  A lot of us on here do have , have had , or will have power boats.

  Kayaks still are not considered "main stream" by most folks-- more kinda "Renegade" than otherwise. But most of us can identify with that. At least I can .... 8) 8) 8)

  How about it Admins ??? We already have a sub-thread for " other boats"
  Maybe start up a specifically "Power Boat" thread.
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: leefromseattle on August 04, 2015, 05:37:09 PM

  How about a sub-thread ?

  A lot of us on here do have , have had , or will have power boats.

  Kayaks still are not considered "main stream" by most folks-- more kinda "Renegade" than otherwise. But most of us can identify with that. At least I can .... 8) 8) 8)

  How about it Admins ??? We already have a sub-thread for " other boats"
  Maybe start up a specifically "Power Boat" thread.

Personal Watercraft sub category would be cool and inclusive of a lot of "renegades" lol. I too have looked at getting a sea doo (whatever the 3 seater's are called regardless of brand) after seeing the group that goes out of oregon and westport for tuna... Seems like an amazing amount of fun if you have buddies to go with...

It's funny cause I've always hated jetski's running around making wakes and being annoying when I'm fishing (at lakes) but 1 video of a cooler and rod holders attached to one and I'm sold.
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: [WR] on August 04, 2015, 07:14:31 PM
Remember, it's not the machine it's the mentality of the user. We could, and probably do, say the same things about dirt bikes and atv's operated irresponsibly. Personally I think you should have a MMPI and an exhaustive operators test before you're allowed to operate one. But, then, I think that about how we license people to drive on our highways too.

So, don't feel conflicted because you want one and follow the rules while others don't and give them a black eye . Eventually Darwin will catch up to them. Or their over compensation for other inadequacies will get the some cool down time in the hoosegow, if we're lucky.
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: Lee on August 04, 2015, 08:48:10 PM
The Jade would be pissed.
Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: snopro on August 04, 2015, 09:23:19 PM
Meh, my grandma seadoo fishes.

Moto Surf X is where it's at.

https://youtu.be/lDi9uFcD7XI




Title: Re: Seadoo fishing
Post by: [WR] on August 04, 2015, 10:08:34 PM
The Jade would be pissed.

Yeh, he would be. How many of us have cursed the morons on jet ski's who don't obey the common courtesy rules? Jade, would give us a 3 page dark humor rant that would be so epic, it would become required reading in advanced literature courses.