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Regional Discussions => Oregon Kayak Fishing => Topic started by: rogerdodger on September 02, 2021, 06:02:21 AM

Title: Great White off Bandon
Post by: rogerdodger on September 02, 2021, 06:02:21 AM
last Thursday north of Bandon, sure glad I wasn't out dribbling chinook blood just north of there...hang on, I was.  ;D


https://fb.watch/7MwYyw7nkR/
Title: Re: Great White off Bandon
Post by: Fred "True" Trujillo on September 02, 2021, 06:39:04 AM
I'm wondering what size of a flasher you would need as a lead for a Hobie Outback fishing from a Coast Guard boat?

Fred "True" Trujillo
Title: Re: Great White off Bandon
Post by: MonkeyFist on September 02, 2021, 07:24:58 AM
I think getting the right spin on the Outback might be problematic.
Title: Re: Great White off Bandon
Post by: rogerdodger on September 02, 2021, 07:33:49 AM
I think getting the right spin on the Outback might be problematic.

especially with someone still in the seat...
Title: Re: Great White off Bandon
Post by: Mojo Jojo on September 02, 2021, 09:11:24 AM
I think getting the right spin on the Outback might be problematic.

especially with someone still in the seat...
With a good pair of leg straps I think you might be able to pull it of Roger, just leave Pepper at home that day. 😉
Title: Re: Great White off Bandon
Post by: Tinker on September 02, 2021, 12:33:13 PM
It was two miles out and trailing behind a pod of grey whales.  I doubt it had the time or the inclination to bother anyone.
Title: Re: Great White off Bandon
Post by: rogerdodger on September 02, 2021, 03:13:04 PM
It was two miles out and trailing behind a pod of grey whales.  I doubt it had the time or the inclination to bother anyone.

my wife will be real happy to hear that.  lol
Title: Re: Great White off Bandon
Post by: Drifter2007 on September 03, 2021, 09:15:23 PM
Like 5 years ago in September I was out in my buddies powerboat fishing for bottom fish just south of Depoe Bay when a shark of 12 to 14 feet long swam up and checked us out. Got within 8 feet of the boat. Was either a tiger or great white. I thought it looked more like a tiger.
Title: Re: Great White off Bandon
Post by: SD2OR on September 04, 2021, 09:08:07 AM
I don't believe we have tiger shaks in Oregon...
Title: Re: Great White off Bandon
Post by: Tinker on September 04, 2021, 09:15:45 AM
I don't believe we have tiger shaks in Oregon...

But yours is a false belief... ;D  https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2016/10/sharks_of_the_oregon_coast.html (https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2016/10/sharks_of_the_oregon_coast.html) (second from bottom).
Title: Re: Great White off Bandon
Post by: SD2OR on September 04, 2021, 12:08:13 PM
Huh! Learn something new everyday!
Title: Re: Great White off Bandon
Post by: MonkeyFist on September 04, 2021, 12:51:58 PM
I don't believe we have tiger shaks in Oregon...

But yours is a false belief... ;D  https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2016/10/sharks_of_the_oregon_coast.html (https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2016/10/sharks_of_the_oregon_coast.html) (second from bottom).

Not so fast.

Range: coastal tropical and subtropical waters off both coasts of North America, Africa, Asia and Australia
Typical Oregonian garbage reporting, facts, science. Who needs it?
While it got warm earlier this year, we're not sub-tropical.
While we have visitors from warmer waters most summers, dorado and marlin come to mind, there's no population of tiger sharks off the coast.
Title: Re: Great White off Bandon
Post by: Drifter2007 on September 04, 2021, 02:50:19 PM
Yeah when I got home that day I googled shark of the Pacific, maybe even Oregon, idk.
It was for certain not a Basking shark, didn't have the tail of a thresher. The size pretty much narrowed it to Great White or Tiger and I swear I could see the stripes of a Tiger, but it may have just been from the water surface. It was 3 to 4 feet down. Never broke the surface with a fin. If I hadn't been at the rail jogging for bottom fish wouldn't have even seen it.
All I knew was two weeks earlier I had been in the same area in my kayak and this Shark was as big as my OK Trident 4.3.
My friends asked what I would do if I saw that from a kayak. I assured them that the smell of me pooping myself would probably deter him from coming any closer. But also, in a kayak I probably wouldn't even have known it was there and ignorance is bliss!
Title: Re: Great White off Bandon
Post by: Tinker on September 04, 2021, 02:51:43 PM
When the Newport Aquarium says tiger sharks occasionally show up in Oregon coastal waters, I tend to believe them.  But that's just me.
Title: Re: Great White off Bandon
Post by: MonkeyFist on September 04, 2021, 03:16:30 PM
That's the key, occasionally.
The Oregonian says "Sharks of the Oregon Coast".
We don't consider folks from Alabama to be Oregonian's when they visit, nor should we this shark.
I've seen a great white as well.
I was fishing for calico bass within sight of Nixon's old house in San Clemente in a 14 foot inflatable.
Sitting on the port tube looking forward and I saw motion out of the corner of my eye.
Looked over and I could have reached down and touched it.
Easily as long as my little boat.
Go out far enough at PC and you can play with the blues, they're pretty skittish though.
Title: Re: Great White off Bandon
Post by: [WR] on September 04, 2021, 03:27:13 PM
Could it have been a Salmon Shark, or is that location too far south ??
Title: Re: Great White off Bandon
Post by: SD2OR on September 04, 2021, 03:42:23 PM
Yes, I had always heard tigers were warm water, why I figured there were none in OR.
Of course we get exotic visitors in summer.
The last few times I went out of PC, I saw dorsals that had to be either white, salmon, or mako. Nothing large enough to be concerned about, luckily.
Caught n released about a 50# blue last week, while jigging for albacore on a power boat, about 40 miles out.
Title: Re: Great White off Bandon
Post by: Drifter2007 on September 04, 2021, 06:27:12 PM
Could it have been a Salmon Shark, or is that location too far south ??
According to what I read, it was bigger than Salmon sharks supposedly get... IDK
Title: Re: Great White off Bandon
Post by: surf12foot on September 04, 2021, 07:03:26 PM
If you talk to the Coast Guard Rescue swimmers a lot of them will tell you some horror stories of huge shadows of sharks just outside of the breakers. We got a residential female great white down here at Simspon Reef that 20 ft. or more. Seen it from the overlook twice and a kayaker had a up close sighting along with a couple of divers too.
Title: Re: Great White off Bandon
Post by: Noob Noob on September 05, 2021, 12:27:46 PM
Like 5 years ago in September I was out in my buddies powerboat fishing for bottom fish just south of Depoe Bay when a shark of 12 to 14 feet long swam up and checked us out. Got within 8 feet of the boat. Was either a tiger or great white. I thought it looked more like a tiger.

Tiger sharks are a dark olive greenish with barely perceptible stripes on their backs. White sharks are gray on top with a white underbelly. I think the greenish water color of the PNW makes it difficult to tell - had to watch the video in rogerdodger's link a couple of times before I was able to say for sure it was a white shark. I've seen both in the wild, if anyone wants to hear some fun shark stories.
Title: Re: Great White off Bandon
Post by: SD2OR on September 05, 2021, 03:19:24 PM
By all means, lets hear the stories, please!
Title: Re: Great White off Bandon
Post by: Asully503 on September 09, 2021, 10:06:04 AM
A dory guide, Grant Rilette just posted a picture of a salmon shark up close an personal on his Instagram page. I think I would need to change my shorts if I spotted one of those that close to me on my kayak.
Title: Re: Great White off Bandon
Post by: [WR] on September 09, 2021, 05:09:32 PM
You need to look up "The Salmon Shark Video" ... brought to us by our founder, polepole himself

Edit: can't easily find the video, but here is the beginnings of the trip : https://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=411.msg2676#msg2676

And this gives you a bit more: https://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=411.msg2947#msg2947

Bear in mind, this was back in '07
Title: Re: Great White off Bandon
Post by: Stevm on September 10, 2021, 05:47:56 PM
It may have been a salmon shark, but it is worth telling the tale anyway....
A couple years ago while sorting through coho out of PC, I hooked a salmon that put up the usual fight and acrobatics.  As it got a closer and tired, I pulled out the net and got ready to look for a dorsal fin.  The salmon made one last short run under the kayak and I heard what I assumed was it splashing on the surface right behind my kayak.  To my surprise, the line then went deeper and ran toward the front of the kayak.  Then surprisingly, it pulled harder and started taking line as it ran away from me off the bow.  When I pulled hard to turn it's head, the line really started pealing and I soon was traveling faster than I can pedal my outback!  I quickly wrapped the line and broke it.  My first thought was that a seal had taken my fish, but I had not seen one in the area and none surfaced after this encounter. (I also remember a NWKA posting from a few years ago where a seal had taken someone's salmon and run - they got quite a sleigh ride too.)  A couple other kayakers fishing nearby suggested I had just hooked a salmon shark....
I have fought 6 to 7 foot sturgeon in the kayak - none pulled quite like that fish did.  It made me uneasy enough that I went in closer to the rock before I continued fishing - I did not want to see what had taken the salmon again. 
Also, now I bleed my fish in a kill bag, so I can dump the water and quickly move to another area....