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Kayak Fishing => Events => Oregon Rockfish Classic 2016 => Topic started by: bsteves on May 05, 2016, 02:32:28 PM
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Keeping up with the idea of sharing as much as we can with the NWKA community, the 2016 ORC planning committee presents the following draft of the 2016 ORC Rules.
Please feel free to make suggestions and comments here in this post. These rules are not going to be up for a vote, but we will do our best to integrate as much of your feedback as we can where we feel it makes the most sense.
We hope to finalize these rules by the end of May at which time this post will be locked and the official final rules will be posted.
2016 Oregon Rockfish Classic Draft Rules
ALL COMPETITORS MUST ADHERE TO THE FOLLOWING:
- BEFORE HITTING THE WATER
- COMPLETE A SAFETY INSPECTION
- PAY REGISTRATION FEES
- FILL OUT AND SIGN THE 2016 ORC WAIVER
- SIGN THE CHECK-OUT LIST
- LAUNCH NO EARLIER THAN 5 AM
- WHILE ON THE WATER
- WEAR IMMERSION GEAR APPROPRIATE TO OREGON COASTAL WATER TEMPS
- WEAR A PFD
- CARRY A SIGNALING DEVICE
- FLY A SAFETY FLAG
- PROPEL THEMSELVES TO AND FROM THE FISHING GROUNDS (HUMAN POWER ONLY)
- CARRY A VALID OREGON FISHING LICENSE
- CARRY AN OREGON INVASIVE SPECIES PERMIT
- ACTIVELY SEEK TO MINIMIZE IMPACT ON POWERED VESSELS (at the launch and on the water)
- FOLLOW ALL DEPOE BAY REGULATIONS FOR ENTRY TO AND EXIT FROM THE HARBOR
- DURING THE CONTEST
- FOLLOW ALL ODFW REGULATIONS APPROPRIATE TO THE AREA
- UNLESS UNDER 16 YEARS OF AGE OR PERMANENTLY DISABLED, MUST LAND THEIR OWN FISH WITHOUT ASSISTANCE
- OBSERVE TOURNAMENT FISHING BOUNDARIES
- NO FISHING IS ALLOWED IN THE CHANNEL BETWEEN THE BELL BUOY AND THE HARBOR ENTRANCE
- SOUTHERN FISHING BOUNDARY: WHALE COVE
- NORTHERN FISHING BOUNDARY: RABBIT ROCK
- WESTERN FISHING BOUNDARY: 20 FATHOMS
- COMPLY WITH TOURNAMENT PLANNERS IF THEY DECIDE TO STOP THE TOURNAMENT EARLY BASED ON OCEAN AND PARTICIPANT CONDITIONS
- UPON RETURN TO THE HARBOR…
- ONLY FISH IN LINE AT THE WEIGH-IN STATION BY 2:00 PM WILL BE CONSIDERED, ANY ANGLERS WITHOUT FISH MUST REPORT TO THE WEIGH IN STATION BY NO LATER THAN 3:00 PM REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU HAVE FISH TO WEIGH.
- NOT CHECKING IN BY 3:00 PM WILL DISQUALIFY YOU FROM PRIZES OR RAFFLES AND WILL RESULT IN BANISHMENT FROM NEXT YEAR’S ORC.
- TOURNAMENT FORMAT
- ONLY FISH FROM ANGLERS HAVING MET ALL SAFETY RULES WILL BE CONSIDERED
- ONLY FISH IN LINE AT THE WEIGH-IN STATION BY 2:00 PM WILL BE CONSIDERED
- ALL FISH WILL BE MEASURED BY WEIGHT IN POUNDS TO THE NEAREST 1/100 LB
- GUTS MUST BE REMOVED BEFORE WEIGH IN
- GILLS MAY REMAIN DURING WEIGH IN
- ANGLERS WILL BE RANKED BASED ON…(waiting for results of online poll)
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Can't think of anything in there I'd want to take out.
Might need to define "guts removed" so there isn't any doubt about whether enough has been taken out. E.g. the kidneys might be missed by some folks. If there's going to be a strict definition you might want to have someone that checks all fish prior to weigh in and removes any viscera that is beyond the allowed remnants.
Is the signaling device the whistle/horn that has to be carried, or are you including VHF radios in that category?
Will the safety inspection be the Coast Guard inspection that they've done in past years, or will that be an NWKA inspection?
Will NA or someone else be running shuttles to transport folks to/from campground and harbor?
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Thanks for the clarification questions...
A whistle/horn as a signaling devise is required by the coast guard and that is what we are referring to. We can clarify that a bit in the rules.
Will will try and get the Coast Guard Auxiliary to do inspections on Friday evening again, but the check out safety inspection is different. You need to be there with your equipment on your kayak and wearing your immersion gear and PFD before you can sign out. The check out sheet is much more than just a check next to your name. I'm hoping we can get a few more people to sign up and help with the check out to help speed this up.
Here's a draft of the check out / check in form.
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Number 4 says "ALL ANGLERS MUST REPORT TO THE WEIGH-IN STATION AND SIGN THE CHECK-IN LIST BEFORE 3:00 PM"
Number 5 says "ONLY FISH IN LINE AT THE WEIGH-IN STATION BY 2:00 PM WILL BE CONSIDERED"
Are those two different times correct?
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Number 4 says "ALL ANGLERS MUST REPORT TO THE WEIGH-IN STATION AND SIGN THE CHECK-IN LIST BEFORE 3:00 PM"
Number 5 says "ONLY FISH IN LINE AT THE WEIGH-IN STATION BY 2:00 PM WILL BE CONSIDERED"
Are those two different times correct?
They could be the same same time. The consequences of each however is different. Miss the 2 pm cut off and your DQ'd and don't get to weigh in your fish. Miss the 3 pm cut off and we start to worry about your safety and we will DQ you from next year's ORC as well. At the 3 pm cut off we start searching for you and would likely get the Coast Guard involved if we haven't heard from you at all.
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For immersion gear, what qualifies? I am assuming a wetsuit would be fine. What about waders with a tight belt?
Thanks for the clarification!
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For immersion gear, what qualifies? I am assuming a wetsuit would be fine. What about waders with a tight belt?
Thanks for the clarification!
Good point, we will want to spell that out in detail. Certainly a dry suit and full wet suit would count. I'd be in favor or a properly set up waders + dry top + belt which would be a bit of a judgement call.
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For immersion gear, what qualifies? I am assuming a wetsuit would be fine. What about waders with a tight belt?
Thanks for the clarification!
Good point, we will want to spell that out in detail. Certainly a dry suit and full wet suit would count. I'd be in favor or a properly set up waders + dry top + belt which would be a bit of a judgement call.
3mm FJ?
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3mm FJ?
With a dry top? .... Possibly.
With a sweat shirt?... no.
With a rain coat?... no.
Obviously we'll have to spell this out a bit more.
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Number 4 says "ALL ANGLERS MUST REPORT TO THE WEIGH-IN STATION AND SIGN THE CHECK-IN LIST BEFORE 3:00 PM"
Number 5 says "ONLY FISH IN LINE AT THE WEIGH-IN STATION BY 2:00 PM WILL BE CONSIDERED"
Are those two different times correct?
They could be the same same time. The consequences of each however is different. Miss the 2 pm cut off and your DQ'd and don't get to weigh in your fish. Miss the 3 pm cut off and we start to worry about your safety and we will DQ you from next year's ORC as well. At the 3 pm cut off we start searching for you and would likely get the Coast Guard involved if we haven't heard from you at all.
I think it's just confusing to be perfectly honest. I was confused just like Tinker. If it's the same time then we should be good. I think you should make them both 14:00 (if that's the time) otherwise fisherman not returning by 15:00 will be DQ'd for subsequent events. It's just a wording thing that may be helpful if changed or lumped together - Folks will see 3:00 and then have to think 2:00. Not a big deal.
Something along the lines of:
ONLY FISH IN LINE AT THE WEIGH-IN STATION BY 2:00 PM WILL BE CONSIDERED, ANY ANGLERS WITHOUT FISH MUST REPORT TO THE WEIGH IN STATION BY NO LATER THAN 3:00 PM REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU HAVE FISH TO WEIGH.
NOT CHECKING IN WILL DISQUALIFY YOU FROM PRIZES OR RAFFLES AND WILL RESULT IN BANISHMENT FROM NEXT YEAR’S ORC.
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For immersion gear, what qualifies? I am assuming a wetsuit would be fine. What about waders with a tight belt?
Thanks for the clarification!
Good point, we will want to spell that out in detail. Certainly a dry suit and full wet suit would count. I'd be in favor or a properly set up waders + dry top + belt which would be a bit of a judgement call.
I will bring both and check it out the night before with judges. The wetsuit is just a tad bit small and makes me tired and hot quickly. Thanks for the help!
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Something along the lines of:
ONLY FISH IN LINE AT THE WEIGH-IN STATION BY 2:00 PM WILL BE CONSIDERED, ANY ANGLERS WITHOUT FISH MUST REPORT TO THE WEIGH IN STATION BY NO LATER THAN 3:00 PM REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU HAVE FISH TO WEIGH.
NOT CHECKING IN WILL DISQUALIFY YOU FROM PRIZES OR RAFFLES AND WILL RESULT IN BANISHMENT FROM NEXT YEAR’S ORC.
thanks, that is better wording.
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Would this work for a dry top or are you talking abouyt the $250+ ones
http://www.amazon.com/NRS-Rio-Top-Paddle-Jacket/dp/B000GTA2YE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1462490971&sr=8-2&keywords=dry+top+kayak
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Would this work for a dry top or are you talking abouyt the $250+ ones
http://www.amazon.com/NRS-Rio-Top-Paddle-Jacket/dp/B000GTA2YE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1462490971&sr=8-2&keywords=dry+top+kayak
We're talking about at least a semi-dry top which you should be able to get for as little as $150 new (depending on the brand). Check the bargain bin at Next Adventure, they occasionally have used ones for under $100.
Dry tops generally have water tight (latex) neck, waist and wrist seals and will keep you completely dry if you fall in the water.
A semi-dry top generally has water tight waist and wrists with a fairly water tight neck seal. These might let a little water in when you submerge, but generally as long as your head is above water, nothing else is getting in. The Kokatat Supernova that is so popular is actually a semi-drysuit (it has a neoprene neck gasket).
Anything that is called a paddle jacket or a splash jacket is actually just a glorified rain jacket. They're great for staying dry in the rain or when a wave splashes you, but they don't keep water out if you fall into the water.
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They could be the same same time. The consequences of each however is different.
Understood, and thank you. I agree that the different wording would be more clear.
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where is the checkout list/line to do so going to be at 5 am? i imagine not doing so disqualifies?
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only issue I see is with gutting the fish. don't get me wrong it's a great idea, but if everyone is getting off the water at the same time and need to clean there fish it might get clustered. what if we're are waiting to gut our fish and miss the 2pm cut off? is there going to be exceptions for something like this?
and I wore a dry pant and semi dry top combo last year, will that be ok this year?
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As long as you check in by 2:00 pm you can take time and gut your fish and have it weighed after 2:00 pm
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Radio? Will there be an event channel to monitor?
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In the past we've used Channel 69 for comms during the event.
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Monitor 16, 69 and 80 at Depoe Bay.
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only issue I see is with gutting the fish. don't get me wrong it's a great idea, but if everyone is getting off the water at the same time and need to clean there fish it might get clustered. what if we're are waiting to gut our fish and miss the 2pm cut off? is there going to be exceptions for something like this?
and I wore a dry pant and semi dry top combo last year, will that be ok this year?
To keep the line short in the smelly filet room, I would think that once you are back in the harbor, you should be able to gut your fish over the side of your kayak before reaching the boat ramp. Basically feed the crab and seagulls in the harbor. The west wall of the harbor has virtually no traffic, so you could just float along that wall and gut your fish and give them a quick rinse right there.
If you are running late, then like BSteves said, but with a suggestion....check in by 2pm and show your fish that you plan to enter so they can mark it down under your name. Then go gut it and come back and weigh those fish that were marked down on your sheet.
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where is the checkout list/line to do so going to be at 5 am? i imagine not doing so disqualifies?
There will be a volunteer (most likely me) down at the launch to check people out at 5 am.
Wobbler
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where is the checkout list/line to do so going to be at 5 am? i imagine not doing so disqualifies?
There will be a volunteer (most likely me) down at the launch to check people out at 5 am. Mark, I may need a staff of patience!
Wobbler
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Who guts bottom fish?
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Who guts bottom fish?
Right?? I just fillet mine, if we're worried about someone gut stuffing there fish lead weight, then weigh the damn thing and have an "official" escort them to the cleaning station and observe fthe filleting and they can inspect the end trails. Just my $0.02
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I like the idea because now we will have less bloody fillets. It makes for good tacos
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Who guts bottom fish?
Right?? I just fillet mine, if we're worried about someone gut stuffing there fish lead weight, then weigh the damn thing and have an "official" escort them to the cleaning station and observe fthe filleting and they can inspect the end trails. Just my $0.02
Feel free to have just your fillets weighed.
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Feel free to have just your fillets weighed.
That gave me a good laugh!
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Who guts bottom fish?
Right?? I just fillet mine, if we're worried about someone gut stuffing there fish lead weight, then weigh the damn thing and have an "official" escort them to the cleaning station and observe fthe filleting and they can inspect the end trails. Just my $0.02
Heaviest dead fish tournaments already encourage people to handle fish differently than they otherwise would. Gutting the fish serves multiple purposes and is a good idea, better than bloody soup fish and less opportunity for cheaters to add weight. Having an extra tournament official do the unglamorous work of examining the entrails of hundreds of fish seems less than an efficient use of limited manpower.
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Good work on the rules, thank you for the transparency. The rules seem sufficient to cover the issues that members have had concerns about in the past.
On the sample check-out sheet you have a checkbox for VHF, but in the rules it doesn't explicitly say you must have a VHF. That might be a good point of clarification.
There seems to always be a fairly good number of people wanting/trying to launch at first light. Given that, I hope the morning checkout doesn't cause too much delay, but I understand why you're doing it.
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Since we're not looking at a $10,000 prize, a new $5,000 boat with all the bells and whistles, a state/USA/world title ,I would hope if someone was willing to attempt to cheat that the ridicule, trash talking,and ignoring of said cheater , wouldn't require us to have to worry about cheating. Unfortunately it's a real pathetic world if people try to cheat an event that is meant as a fun compatition that's whole existence is to promote our sport, our passion and raise some money for charity.
I'm not ranting, maybe preaching a little and if anyone is found to be cheating at my event they will be banished from it permanently. It doesn't have to be difficult I'm doing mine with a little help from my family a little more help from a few members on here and that's about it. It's spoda be fun times and sunshine people.
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I hear you Mojo. But (some) people will even cheat in situations where there are no prizes, unfortunately. ??? I like your life-long banishment for punishment. ;D
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Good work on the rules, thank you for the transparency. The rules seem sufficient to cover the issues that members have had concerns about in the past.
On the sample check-out sheet you have a checkbox for VHF, but in the rules it doesn't explicitly say you must have a VHF. That might be a good point of clarification.
There seems to always be a fairly good number of people wanting/trying to launch at first light. Given that, I hope the morning checkout doesn't cause too much delay, but I understand why you're doing it.
Hopefully we have a few people doing parallel check out stations to speed things up a bit. In the end, you can't launch if we aren't sure you're safe.
We talked about assigning launch windows with corresponding delayed return windows. (i.e. If you are assigned the 5:00 launch, you can launch as early as 5 am but you have to return at 1 pm. If you are assigned the 5:30 launch, you can't launch until 5:30, but you have until 1:30 pm to return). In the end, that seemed like a lot for people to remember and a lot of people might miss their return cutoff time.
The VHF check box... I'm not sure whether or not we need a VHF as a required piece of equipment. Even if it's not required, the check box could still be useful to let us (and potentially the Coast Guard) know what equipment you have.
You might have noticed the Kayak make and color field as well. That is also a bit of information to help in the search.
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I'm pretty sure Mojo was actually ranting, there. I could even hear him banging his shoe on the table.
I agree with everything he said.
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Who guts bottom fish?
Right?? I just fillet mine, if we're worried about someone gut stuffing there fish lead weight, then weigh the damn thing and have an "official" escort them to the cleaning station and observe fthe filleting and they can inspect the end trails. Just my $0.02
Feel free to have just your fillets weighed.
Too funny! Almost spit out my coffee.
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Who guts bottom fish?
Right?? I just fillet mine, if we're worried about someone gut stuffing there fish lead weight, then weigh the damn thing and have an "official" escort them to the cleaning station and observe fthe filleting and they can inspect the end trails. Just my $0.02
Feel free to have just your fillets weighed.
Too funny! Almost spit out my coffee.
That would actually make a good tournament not only does your luck getting the hook set and fish landed matter but your skill at the table with the knive will also play into It. :spittake:
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A fileting skill competition... now that is a tournament all on its own! Fun for the whole family! Immersion gear not required.
From my past observation that should eliminate many of the so-called "pro-staffers". >:D
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While the basic list of what is considered immersion gear includes the outer shell, there should also be some chatter about what should be worn as a minimum under said outer shell.
The dry top/wader combo and drysuits are only going to keep you dry, and not necessarily warm enough to safely diddle around in the water for for very long.
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again how is the gut removal thing going to work? where is that going to be done? could make for a mess with lines to do so or guts in the harbor. lets see now....line at fish cleaning room to gut fish then line to weigh fish then back to cleaning room line to fillet fish. dang...hopefully no ones going to be in a hurry to get back to camp.
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again how is the gut removal thing going to work? where is that going to be done? could make for a mess with lines to do so or guts in the harbor. lets see now....line at fish cleaning room to gut fish then line to weigh fish then back to cleaning room line to fillet fish. dang...hopefully no ones going to be in a hurry to get back to camp.
Feel free to gut your fish on the water, in the harbor, or at the cleaning station.
As long as you check in at the weigh station by 2 pm, you can have a bit of extra time to gut your fish if needed. Waiting in line to gut your fish isn't going to DQ you.
Generally, people start coming back in a couple hours before the 2 pm cut off so the weigh-in will be a bit spread out. I'd say that in the past only a third of the entrants wait until the last half hour or so to weigh in.
You don't have to gut all of your fish, just the ones you want considered for weigh in.
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again how is the gut removal thing going to work? where is that going to be done? could make for a mess with lines to do so or guts in the harbor. lets see now....line at fish cleaning room to gut fish then line to weigh fish then back to cleaning room line to fillet fish. dang...hopefully no ones going to be in a hurry to get back to camp.
This shouldn't be an issue, the fish cleaning station there is pretty big and if needed I'm sure we could have one person just gutting fish.
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Did Noah just volunteer to gut all the fish? Cool! Thanks bro. ;D
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again how is the gut removal thing going to work? where is that going to be done? could make for a mess with lines to do so or guts in the harbor. lets see now....line at fish cleaning room to gut fish then line to weigh fish then back to cleaning room line to fillet fish. dang...hopefully no ones going to be in a hurry to get back to camp.
Also, we usually fillet the fish at the campground so we can drink beer while doing it. So,that eliminates that line.
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Did Noah just volunteer to gut all the fish? Cool! Thanks bro. ;D
Damn....
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Gutting bottom fish does sound ridiculous. Let's just use length for the various species category wins. Then if you think you have a winner for single heaviest, then just those few fish can be gutted so at least all the rockfish don't have to be gutted.
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Who guts bottom fish?
Right?? I just fillet mine, if we're worried about someone gut stuffing there fish lead weight, then weigh the damn thing and have an "official" escort them to the cleaning station and observe fthe filleting and they can inspect the end trails. Just my $0.02
I thought mojo signed up to check end trails
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I'm a little late finding this thread...
What's the reasoning behind gutting the fish?
Who guts bottomfish?
Does anyone remember the heavy current and winds last year? Gutting fish on the water would be counter productive and an unnecessary pain in the ass. You'd be a mile off your drift if you stopped to clean your catch.
I understand that there are other options for when and where to clean your catch, but gutting fish prior to weigh in seems like a waste of time.
Is cheating really that big of concern?
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I'm a little late finding this thread...
What's the reasoning behind gutting the fish?
Who guts bottomfish?
Does anyone remember the heavy current and winds last year? Gutting fish on the water would be counter productive and an unnecessary pain in the ass. You'd be a mile off your drift if you stopped to clean your catch.
I understand that there are other options for when and where to clean your catch, but gutting fish prior to weigh in seems like a waste of time.
Is cheating really that big of concern?
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Who guts a bottom fish? Everyone I know prior to eating it. If I am going to fillet 50 fish so people can have a fish fry I do not think receiving pre-gutted fish is that unreasonable. It will keep the fillet table cleaner at the campground. :)
It is really not hard to gut a fish. You don't need to do it on the water if you don't want to. Just have it done by the time it gets weighed. I will probably do mine on the water just prior to coming in, if I get a chance to fish.
Cheating is not that big of a concern, but it is a concern. Besides, wouldn't you rather win the tournament with a 32 inch cabby that may have had an empty stomach, or puked all over you, than get beat by someone with a smaller fish that happened to have a belly full of bait fish and crab?
Personally, I bleed all my fish on the water. It makes for a much better meal.
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Bleeding fish is one thing, but gutting them prior to weigh in seems ridiculous. I've filleted my fish out before donating to the taco feed every year.
If the issue is a dirty fillet table or ease of cleaning for the guys that prep the fish for tacos, why not gut after the weigh-in if cheating isn't the issue?
It's not hard to gut a fish, but when you have 100+ guys scrambling to gut their fish before a weigh in, you're going to delay things a bit. I just don't see how it makes it more efficient.
If this event ends up being a best of 4 fish slam, that's a lot of fish to clean before weigh in.
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Bleeding fish is one thing, but gutting them prior to weigh in seems ridiculous. I've filleted my fish out before donating to the taco feed every year.
If the issue is a dirty fillet table or ease of cleaning for the guys that prep the fish for tacos, why not gut after the weigh-in if cheating isn't the issue?
It's not hard to gut a fish, but when you have 100+ guys scrambling to gut their fish before a weigh in, you're going to delay things a bit. I just don't see how it makes it more efficient.
If this event ends up being a best of 4 fish slam, that's a lot of fish to clean before weigh in.
What do you have to worry about, Noah has this under control.
I can see his technique now....
You're next in line and hold up your stringer to Noah.
He looks you straight in the eye, then down at your catch.
Then starts at the bung hole and unzips the chest up to the chin with a big game gut knife.
Zip, Zip, Zip....all done.
A finger or two swiped from chin to hole with the innards dropping into a tub below.
He then points at the hose behind you to go rinse them out if you want to weigh them in.
;D
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Bleeding fish is one thing, but gutting them prior to weigh in seems ridiculous. I've filleted my fish out before donating to the taco feed every year.
If the issue is a dirty fillet table or ease of cleaning for the guys that prep the fish for tacos, why not gut after the weigh-in if cheating isn't the issue?
It's not hard to gut a fish, but when you have 100+ guys scrambling to gut their fish before a weigh in, you're going to delay things a bit. I just don't see how it makes it more efficient.
If this event ends up being a best of 4 fish slam, that's a lot of fish to clean before weigh in.
What do you have to worry about, Noah has this under control.
I can see his technique now....
You're next in line and hold up your stringer to Noah.
He looks you straight in the eye, then down at your catch.
Then starts at the bung hole and unzips the chest up to the chin with a big game gut knife.
Zip, Zip, Zip....all done.
A finger or two swiped from chin to hole with the innards dropping into a tub below.
He then points at the hose behind you to go rinse them out if you want to weigh them in.
;D
This Noah guy is awesome!
Again, how hard is it to gut a fish? It only takes a minute, so If we do the slam, that is 4 minutes of your time. Of course there is the thirty minute argument/yelling match with the asshole husband that comes over and accuses you and your buds of scaring off his wife and daughter because you gutted your salmon in the water on a beach full of broken bottles and needles that the kid was wading in 40 yards away. But I digress.
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Bleeding fish is one thing, but gutting them prior to weigh in seems ridiculous. I've filleted my fish out before donating to the taco feed every year.
If the issue is a dirty fillet table or ease of cleaning for the guys that prep the fish for tacos, why not gut after the weigh-in if cheating isn't the issue?
It's not hard to gut a fish, but when you have 100+ guys scrambling to gut their fish before a weigh in, you're going to delay things a bit. I just don't see how it makes it more efficient.
If this event ends up being a best of 4 fish slam, that's a lot of fish to clean before weigh in.
What do you have to worry about, Noah has this under control.
I can see his technique now....
You're next in line and hold up your stringer to Noah.
He looks you straight in the eye, then down at your catch.
Then starts at the bung hole and unzips the chest up to the chin with a big game gut knife.
Zip, Zip, Zip....all done.
A finger or two swiped from chin to hole with the innards dropping into a tub below.
He then points at the hose behind you to go rinse them out if you want to weigh them in.
;D
This Noah guy is awesome!
Again, how hard is it to gut a fish? It only takes a minute, so If we do the slam, that is 4 minutes of your time. Of course there is the thirty minute argument/yelling match with the asshole husband that comes over and accuses you and your buds of scaring off his wife and daughter because you gutted your salmon in the water on a beach full of broken bottles and needles that the kid was wading in 40 yards away. But I digress.
Don't forget about the random stranger that shows up and rambles on how you are not cleaning your fish correctly and their way is the best way in the world ::)
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If you are charming like Eric (Sinker) the fish checker girl will fillet both your salmon for you. She knew what she was doing.
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Are there any laws aganst cleaning your fish on The water? It'll throw off the fish checker on the shore...
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Are there any laws aganst cleaning your fish on The water? It'll throw off the fish checker on the shore...
Nope. The fish checker is there to collect data. They do report if you have something you're no supposed to, but if your fish are already cut they likely just won't ask to record measurement data for them.
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Are there any laws aganst cleaning your fish on The water? It'll throw off the fish checker on the shore...
I am by no means an expert at reading the regs but here's what it says - I guess "mutilation" is sort of up to interpretation.
http://www.eregulations.com/oregon/fishing/marine-zone/
Mutilation: It is unlawful for anglers fishing from a boat to mutilate fish so that size or species cannot be determined prior to landing or to transport mutilated fish across state waters, except albacore may be partially cleaned at sea. Partial cleaning means only the head and entrails may be removed; both the clavicle (collar) and the tail must stay intact. It is also unlawful for anglers fishing from shore to mutilate catch so that size or species cannot be determined prior to reaching their automobile or principle means of land transportation, and having completed their daily angling. These restrictions do not apply to herring, anchovy, smelt and sardine.
Also...
http://www.eregulations.com/oregon/fishing/restrictions/
Disposing of a fish carcass into waters other than where the fish was caught. Anglers must retain enough of the carcass to identify the size, species and any fin clip.
Cleaning at sea should be okay unless I've misread the regs.
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Gutting your fish at sea should be fine. Gut contents aren't required for identification and don't affect length. Just be sure to keep the head on.
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Where do I find the waiver?
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We will have them at the Captains meeting.
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We will have them at the Captains meeting.
Thank you