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Kayak Fishing => Big Fish Brag Board => Topic started by: Amphibious on August 16, 2013, 08:36:02 AM

Title: Common Carp
Post by: Amphibious on August 16, 2013, 08:36:02 AM
Some of the bigger pigs over the years

23lbs

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27.5lbs 

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Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: no_oil_needed on August 16, 2013, 09:28:51 AM
Nice! I guess they aren't diver shy.
Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: Amphibious on August 16, 2013, 09:48:19 AM
or it could be I've been doing this over 20yrs....

Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: Justin on August 16, 2013, 11:13:42 AM
You might appreciate this from earlier this summer then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F_M1MIYOrA
Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: no_oil_needed on August 16, 2013, 12:31:10 PM
or it could be I've been doing this over 20yrs....
No... That can't be it. And since you've been doing this 20+ years, I am totally unimpressed now ;)

All kidding aside, it looks like you have the fishery dialed in. Are carp shy of divers? I used to spearfish on scuba and some fish would come right up to you while other would run immediately.
Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: Amphibious on August 16, 2013, 10:17:47 PM
Sorry if that came out a little snarky, forgot the little smile face.

These ones are taken in really dark water, usually less then 3' of viz.  you have to creep up on them, any little bubble, ripple, or noise and they bolt.  later in the year the water clears up and the big ones get pretty wary, letting you see them for a second, then swimming off.  reminds me of hunting upland game in the fog.  there is always the odd dumb one that will swim right up and say hi.

Some video stills:

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Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: Amphibious on August 16, 2013, 10:19:38 PM
You might appreciate this from earlier this summer then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F_M1MIYOrA

That looks like a blast! always wanted to try bowfishing.
Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: Noah on August 16, 2013, 11:49:37 PM
Very cool. So what do you do with 20+lbs of carp?
Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: Justin on August 19, 2013, 08:14:09 AM
That's some pretty murky water.  You should try it over here in the spring before the algae kicks up.
Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: hanapaa808 on February 04, 2016, 07:42:16 AM
Awesome bow fishing vids!
Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: smilinkayaker on February 04, 2016, 08:53:41 PM
Some of you would love the snake here in southern idaho in spring and early summer the carp are crazy!! Alot of bow fisherman out here, they are doing a good job of cleaning our rivers. I personally target them on the fly, when the carp are schooled up at the surface sucking air, they will take a small fly and not even realize it. Then the fight is on!!!
Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: smilinkayaker on February 04, 2016, 08:55:28 PM
16lbs on a 5w fly rod, 5lb flouro leader.
Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: Mojo Jojo on February 04, 2016, 09:10:15 PM
Holly Carp smilie! :o
Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: Justin on February 05, 2016, 11:34:58 AM
Carp on a fly is awesome.
Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: Nobaddays on February 05, 2016, 11:45:27 AM
Everything I have learned about carp on a fly says it is very addictive.  They say you better have plenty of backing for their initial run.   I have never tried to catch them with a fly, but hope to try this year.
Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: Captain Redbeard on February 05, 2016, 12:31:46 PM
16lbs on a 5w fly rod, 5lb flouro leader.

Do you know how long I've waited for an NWKA post about fly-fishing for carp from a kayak? SWEET!

One of my goals this year is carp on the fly - can't wait.
Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: smilinkayaker on February 05, 2016, 12:38:44 PM
That's awesome!! Well I think that carp can be kinda dumb, they school up and suck air on the surface, when I see this happen I carefully get as close as I can and start laying the fly in front of them, Mormon girl is a favorite smaller the better, they suck it up and I don't think they even realize it until you set the hook....
 The one in the pick was actually caught on an olive zonker while bass fishing...it thought I had a double digit smallie, but nope, 45 mins later I landed that big stinky thing..lol
Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: smilinkayaker on February 05, 2016, 12:40:03 PM
And ya use backing if your worried cuz when they run they run!! The beast in the pic spooled me 2 or 3 times, no backing on my reel...can't believe I didn't loose it.
Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: Zach.Dennis on February 05, 2016, 03:10:26 PM
Are carp any good to eat or are they a catch and release fish.  I grew up on a lake with a ton of carp but have never known what bait to use.  I tried breadballs and worms to no avail.
Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: bsteves on February 05, 2016, 03:33:01 PM
Ah the bane of the carp angler.... Everyone who sees you always asks... "Are they good to eat?"

The answer is yes and no...
They are the probably the most eaten freshwater fish on the planet as well as the most farmed fish in the world.   They are extremely popular in Asia and Central Europe.     

That said, they are a bit oily and difficult to clean due to the many fine bones they have.  With access to the ocean, trout and salmon we really don't have to bother with eating carp.  Most people in the US do catch and release with carp or catch and eradicate because they are a non-native species to this continent.

A quick search on YouTube will give you tons of techniques for catching them. 

Brian
Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: Zach.Dennis on February 05, 2016, 03:49:48 PM
Ah the bane of the carp angler.... Everyone who sees you always asks... "Are they good to eat?"

The answer is yes and no...
They are the probably the most eaten freshwater fish on the planet as well as the most farmed fish in the world.   They are extremely popular in Asia and Central Europe.     

That said, they are a bit oily and difficult to clean due to the many fine bones they have.  With access to the ocean, trout and salmon we really don't have to bother with eating carp.  Most people in the US do catch and release with carp or catch and eradicate because they are a non-native species to this continent.

A quick search on YouTube will give you tons of techniques for catching them. 

Brian

I am always impressed with the knowledge this board has!  Thank you for the background info!  I will check you tube but will practice C&R.  I do wonder if they would be good smoked.  I own a traeger and love to smoke meats.  When i do fish i usually have to stick to store bought salmon.  I have not been able to go salmon fishing in Cali since i left portland.  I am stoked to be moving back next month and hopefully i will get on a few salmon!
Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: Nobaddays on February 05, 2016, 04:08:25 PM
Are carp any good to eat or are they a catch and release fish.


One of the articles on carp fishing that I read recently said the guy was curious like you.  He filleted the fish only keeping the whitest meat.  He cooked it up in a beer batter.  Everyone got to try it.....nobody had seconds.
Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: Captain Redbeard on February 05, 2016, 06:39:04 PM
Well I think that carp can be kinda dumb...

I hear a lot of people say that... all I know is the ones I've been targeting seem to outsmart me most days. What does that say about me?! haha but I know sometimes they can be very easy to catch. I've been targeting them in very shallow water when the tide floods the backwaters of the Columbia and Willamette and they are skittish, wary critters. I know they're trash fish but I have a lot of respect for them. Also I wouldn't be surprised if they're sucking in your flies on purpose; they eat a lot of insects and if there is a hatch they'll slurp along the top - great time to target with the fly, obviously. I've seen videos of guys targeting them with sinking flies too.

One of my favorite catches of 2015 was sight-casting carp in 6 inches of water (spinning, not fly). Powerful fish.
Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: smilinkayaker on February 05, 2016, 09:17:53 PM
Yes I shouldn't say that so lightly, the dumb part that is, very powerful fish and I have caught them while bass fishing often, even on a crankbait.
 I have tried during a mayfly hatch which can be crazy to say the least, it like it's snowing mayflies, but never done well during a hatch....not like trout I guess.
Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: hdpwipmonkey on February 05, 2016, 09:44:52 PM
We used to fish for them all the time in PA.  My aunt had a boat dock on the Allegheny River that we'd fish from.  We did well with dough balls or cheese balls.  A lot of people used to eat them but we never did.  C&R only for us.
Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: Casey on October 02, 2016, 11:11:27 AM
Carp are fun on light gear! I used to take my son Zach carp fishing in the Willamette here in Salem. We fished calm deep water around early April ish. We chummed with corn, then I'd brine some corn in cherry cool aid, Karos syrup, and a little Anis from the baking section. We would use normal corn for chum then put the flavored corn on a tiny hook with a slider set up on the bottom. They respond pretty well to that. When they bite it's a really light slow pull at the tip of the rod, then it reminds me of fighting a salmon in super slow motion. We always tossed them back. Later in the month when we head up the slough for smallmouth they are up in the shallow water we could never catch them, they spook if you get near them.


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Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: Captain Redbeard on October 02, 2016, 07:09:29 PM
 :police: Just a head's up: chumming is strictly illegal in all freshwater in Oregon.  :police:

http://www.eregulations.com/oregon/fishing/restrictions/  (#6)

Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: Casey on October 02, 2016, 08:55:42 PM
:police: Just a head's up: chumming is strictly illegal in all freshwater in Oregon.  :police:

http://www.eregulations.com/oregon/fishing/restrictions/  (#6)
I didn't even think about it, hell people shoot them with bows... Thanks for the heads up. They are a fish I haven't targeted in a few years, but it will be something to consider if I get a wild hair.


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Title: Re: Common Carp
Post by: NeverTooOld on October 03, 2016, 03:03:33 PM
Met a gent from the UK this summer while on a cruise who was wearing a Kelley green shirt declaring "I Fish Therefore I am!" When I asked him what he fished for, he told me "carp" and went on to explain how he and many other Brits revere the lowly (to us) carp. The way he spoke of his passion, gear and techniques gave him that look... you know, the one YOU see in the mirror when you need to go fishing.... http://www.olivemeadlake.co.uk/galleries/ (http://www.olivemeadlake.co.uk/galleries/)
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