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Kayak Fishing => Let's Talk Kayak Fishing => Topic started by: Captain Redbeard on September 05, 2021, 05:20:18 PM

Title: Yellowtail rockfish
Post by: Captain Redbeard on September 05, 2021, 05:20:18 PM
I believe this is a yellowtail rockfish, which I'd never caught before yesterday. I found a school of them in about 100FOW. This one is a little beat up but it was the only good picture I got of them.

Anybody want to confirm or argue with my identification?
Title: Re: Yellowtail rockfish
Post by: henney on September 05, 2021, 05:53:30 PM
Yeah, that's a yellowtail. I catch them occasionally in area 4b (inner Neah Bay area), but didn't get any this year that were big enough to keep now that we're allowed to.
Title: Re: Yellowtail rockfish
Post by: crash on September 05, 2021, 09:14:36 PM
They look very similar to olive rockfish, but I don’t think olives occur north of cape blanco. The only way I can tell them apart is to count the rays on the anal fin.

Title: Re: Yellowtail rockfish
Post by: Captain Redbeard on September 07, 2021, 02:15:17 PM
They look very similar to olive rockfish, but I don’t think olives occur north of cape blanco. The only way I can tell them apart is to count the rays on the anal fin.

I'd never heard of olive rockfish, so I looked it up. Interesting!

https://wildlife.ca.gov/Fishing/Ocean/Fish-ID/Sportfish/Rockfish

And you're right: based on range alone it seems unlikely it was an olive rockfish.
Title: Re: Yellowtail rockfish
Post by: crash on September 07, 2021, 02:45:16 PM
They look very similar to olive rockfish, but I don’t think olives occur north of cape blanco. The only way I can tell them apart is to count the rays on the anal fin.

I'd never heard of olive rockfish, so I looked it up. Interesting!

https://wildlife.ca.gov/Fishing/Ocean/Fish-ID/Sportfish/Rockfish

And you're right: based on range alone it seems unlikely it was an olive rockfish.

I'm not going to be surprised at all when the common California species start showing up in northern Oregon waters.  I saw a guy catch a monkey faced prickleback off the Barview jetty in 2019.  Hilarity ensued, he acted like it was going to kill him dead on the spot and he immediately cut his line at the reel with a knife.

The California halibut fishery is migrating north too.

All signs of a warming ocean.
Title: Re: Yellowtail rockfish
Post by: Captain Redbeard on September 07, 2021, 02:59:43 PM
I thought monkeyface "eels" were pretty common up here? Maybe I'm wrong. My understanding is that they're pretty common at least on the south coast (Oregon).
Title: Re: Yellowtail rockfish
Post by: PEELING LINE on September 07, 2021, 04:48:37 PM
The rock and black prickleback species up here could be confused with the monkeyface prickleback.  They both have those bars on the face. 
Title: Re: Yellowtail rockfish
Post by: T Coastal on September 08, 2021, 08:35:00 AM
I thought monkeyface "eels" were pretty common up here? Maybe I'm wrong. My understanding is that they're pretty common at least on the south coast (Oregon).

You're right, there is a ton of them around the jetty. Most people never see one though.
Title: Re: Yellowtail rockfish
Post by: crash on September 08, 2021, 09:27:44 AM
I thought monkeyface "eels" were pretty common up here? Maybe I'm wrong. My understanding is that they're pretty common at least on the south coast (Oregon).

You're right, there is a ton of them around the jetty. Most people never see one though.

Most all of the literature I've seen has a northernmost range at Cape Blanco.  One says Netarts.  I'm 100% on my ID of the guy who cut his line at Barview, it was a MFE.

They are totally common in the rocks and jetties around Brookings/Crescent City.  Poke poling is the way to go.
Title: Re: Yellowtail rockfish
Post by: Clayman on September 08, 2021, 09:55:07 AM
I've caught a fair number of MFEs poke-poling Yaquina Bay's south jetty. They're not as abundant here as further south, but it's pretty easy to get a few on a low tide. There are some really big ones out there, 30 inchers.

The humorous part about poke-poling up here is it's foreign. Some old-timers had no idea WTF was going on when I was pulling up MFEs from under their feet with a piece of bamboo and a wire clothes hanger  :D.
Title: Re: Yellowtail rockfish
Post by: RoxnDox on September 09, 2021, 09:55:23 AM
So if you catch one of those fish, what the heck do ya do with 'em?
Title: Re: Yellowtail rockfish
Post by: crash on September 09, 2021, 09:59:20 AM
So if you catch one of those fish, what the heck do ya do with 'em?

Ceviche.  They make the best ceviche.  The meat stays firm and holds up really well.
Title: Re: Yellowtail rockfish
Post by: YakHunter on September 09, 2021, 01:17:40 PM
So if you catch one of those fish, what the heck do ya do with 'em?

Ceviche.  They make the best ceviche.  The meat stays firm and holds up really well.

Now I need to look up "Ceviche"
Title: Re: Yellowtail rockfish
Post by: skayaker2 on September 09, 2021, 01:26:13 PM
So if you catch one of those fish, what the heck do ya do with 'em?

Ceviche.  They make the best ceviche.  The meat stays firm and holds up really well.

Now I need to look up "Ceviche"

You NEED to try ceviche!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceviche
Title: Re: Yellowtail rockfish
Post by: Clayman on September 09, 2021, 06:57:59 PM
So if you catch one of those fish, what the heck do ya do with 'em?
They taste great! Flaky, white fillets. In addition to ceviche, they do well coated with panko and pan-fried. Filleting them can be a PITA at times, but it's not too bad.
Title: Re: Yellowtail rockfish
Post by: RoxnDox on September 09, 2021, 09:14:44 PM
Huh, ok...  Sounds like an interesting dish... 
Title: Re: Yellowtail rockfish
Post by: jed on September 10, 2021, 05:43:22 AM
I've caught a fair number of MFEs poke-poling Yaquina Bay's south jetty. They're not as abundant here as further south, but it's pretty easy to get a few on a low tide. There are some really big ones out there, 30 inchers.

The humorous part about poke-poling up here is it's foreign. Some old-timers had no idea WTF was going on when I was pulling up MFEs from under their feet with a piece of bamboo and a wire clothes hanger  :D.
That looks pretty fun, technique and species. Is there a season for poke poling?
Title: Re: Yellowtail rockfish
Post by: Clayman on September 10, 2021, 06:54:53 AM
I've caught a fair number of MFEs poke-poling Yaquina Bay's south jetty. They're not as abundant here as further south, but it's pretty easy to get a few on a low tide. There are some really big ones out there, 30 inchers.

The humorous part about poke-poling up here is it's foreign. Some old-timers had no idea WTF was going on when I was pulling up MFEs from under their feet with a piece of bamboo and a wire clothes hanger  :D.
That looks pretty fun, technique and species. Is there a season for poke poling?
You can do it year-round. Ideal conditions are a small swell and clear water so you can spot all the holes to "poke". The times I've done it are usually in the winter and spring when other local fisheries are in a lull.

Down in NorCal, I've heard of guys catching octopus and even wolf eels while poke-poling. I haven't pulled up either of those, but I've hooked a handful of hard-pulling "animals" that I couldn't pull out of their holes. Always left me wondering what the heck they were.
Title: Re: Yellowtail rockfish
Post by: Tinker on September 10, 2021, 04:06:24 PM
Oh gag me!  YUCK!

What some people's kids will put in their mouths is just astonishing.   :o

You NEED to try ceviche!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceviche
Title: Re: Yellowtail rockfish
Post by: Captain Redbeard on September 10, 2021, 04:19:51 PM
So if you catch one of those fish, what the heck do ya do with 'em?
They taste great! Flaky, white fillets. In addition to ceviche, they do well coated with panko and pan-fried. Filleting them can be a PITA at times, but it's not too bad.

I can't speak to MFEs but the wolf eel my wife caught was delicious! If I caught an MFE I would keep it for sure.
Title: Re: Yellowtail rockfish
Post by: [WR] on September 10, 2021, 06:38:57 PM
My grandpa and uncles used to  go to the Conowingo dam every year to fish for eels .. I remember my mom staying out of the kitchen because she hated watching the parts jump around in the hot oil when they went into the pan...