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Regional Discussions => Oregon Kayak Fishing => Topic started by: Clayman on February 17, 2017, 07:43:08 AM

Title: Odd surf catch yesterday...
Post by: Clayman on February 17, 2017, 07:43:08 AM
I'm new to fishing the central Oregon coast, so maybe this is more common than I think it is.  But to a CA angler, this was a total trip.  After work yesterday, I walked my dog down to the beach below my house to catch the sunset.  Also brought a rod along rigged with Berkley Gulp sandworms.  The redtail surfperch bite was really good, as I landed four in a row in quick succession.  Then this thing latched onto my bait.  At first I thought it was a HUGE perch when I saw its size, then as I got it closer, I was like WTF is that??  It came in with little struggle.  My first-ever spotted ratfish catch, and from the surf no less!  After some photos, I let it go.  This was in northern Yachats, top of the incoming tide.  Pretty good swell coming in, so I guess this guy got pushed around until he was close to the beach.

OR coast guys, are ratfish a common catch up here?  I was totally stoked to get such an odd catch.  Can't wait to get my kayak out there!
Title: Re: Odd surf catch yesterday...
Post by: yaktastic on February 17, 2017, 08:14:28 AM
Dude that's cool! Never seen one landed.all I hear about them they are mostly deep dwelling fish but don't quote me on that.still bad ass!
Title: Re: Odd surf catch yesterday...
Post by: Mark Collett on February 17, 2017, 08:48:35 AM
Dude that's cool! Never seen one landed.all I hear about them they are mostly deep dwelling fish but don't quote me on that.still bad ass!

 I've caught ratfish in the Straight in 200+ fow. They sure are an ugly fish. Unless you're another ratfish.
Title: Re: Odd surf catch yesterday...
Post by: RoxnDox on February 17, 2017, 09:24:18 AM
Dude that's cool! Never seen one landed.all I hear about them they are mostly deep dwelling fish but don't quote me on that.still bad ass!

 I've caught ratfish in the Straight in 200+ fow. They sure are an ugly fish. Unless you're another ratfish.

Not always deep.  I have seen some up in the Sound while scuba diving in 30-50 fsw...
Title: Re: Odd surf catch yesterday...
Post by: Captain Redbeard on February 17, 2017, 09:30:18 AM
Definitely not a common surf/nearshore catch in my experience - cool!
Title: Re: Odd surf catch yesterday...
Post by: Matt M on February 17, 2017, 09:33:51 AM
Cool catch!! I love the look on your dogs face "What the heck is that thing?!?"
Title: Re: Odd surf catch yesterday...
Post by: crash on February 17, 2017, 09:36:29 AM
Definitely not a common surf/nearshore catch in my experience - cool!

Have you ever caught one?  I think I speak for many when I say I look forward to a Clayman vs Capt. mega species slam competition.

My fish book says they are Demersal to 3000' but are also found in the surf and intertidal zone. They look like an evolutionary throwback. Sort of like sturgeon.
Title: Re: Odd surf catch yesterday...
Post by: Zach.Dennis on February 17, 2017, 10:00:00 AM
Awesome catch!
Title: Re: Odd surf catch yesterday...
Post by: Helium Head on February 17, 2017, 11:35:04 AM
Cool! Thanks for sharing. About how long is it?
Title: Re: Odd surf catch yesterday...
Post by: Clayman on February 17, 2017, 11:43:33 AM
Thanks for the info and feedback guys.  It surprised the hell out of me, to say the least.  From the info I could gather, it looks like these guys are found all across depth ranges.  This guy was in 3-4 feet of water.  It was evening, and they're supposed to move shallow to feed at night, but I do think the bigger swell had something to do with pushing him so close to shore.

Cool catch!! I love the look on your dogs face "What the heck is that thing?!?"
Haha, it was funny because he's usually all over the surfperch.  But when he caught wind of this, he didn't want anything to do with it.  It made my hands smell like ammonia, or the same scent as a shark's blood.  Pretty stinky.

Cool! Thanks for sharing. About how long is it?
Probably 16 or 17 inches.
Title: Re: Odd surf catch yesterday...
Post by: browneyesvictim on February 17, 2017, 02:39:24 PM
How cool is that! I nominate you for the "most interesting catch" category!
Title: Re: Odd surf catch yesterday...
Post by: bb2fish on February 17, 2017, 03:47:35 PM
We haven't seen many posts of catching lately, so it's way cool to see such a unique fish.  Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Odd surf catch yesterday...
Post by: Trident 13 on February 18, 2017, 08:58:16 AM
I debated whether to cough this up again, but shortly after moving to WA from WI, another transplant and I were fishing east of Neah Bay.  We caught a fairly large rat fish, I'd guess 2+ times the size of the one you caught.  When trying to unhook we swore it actually snarled with those teeth. The plates appeared to be riveted to the head of it and neithere had ever seen/herd of something like this coming out of the depths of the huge Pacific.  We brought to the dock and showed a fellow in a boat and without batting an eye he said maybe it was a unique species and thought we should bring it up to the bait shop/store.  We did with the appropriate amount of excitement and another fellow suggested we hang it on the scale for all to see, and it might be a state record of some sort.  Luckily I noticed the smirk on the face of about the 2nd guy going past and turned to see the others smiling.  It was a long walk back to the boat with everyone smiling at us.
Title: Re: Odd surf catch yesterday...
Post by: Pinstriper on February 18, 2017, 10:18:53 AM
Ratfish ? That's a thing ?

Huh. I was gonna say Fukushima. Go figure.
Title: Re: Odd surf catch yesterday...
Post by: Lee on February 18, 2017, 10:55:57 AM
Ratfish ? That's a thing ?

Huh. I was gonna say Fukushima. Go figure.
Puget sound has lots of them

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Title: Re: Odd surf catch yesterday...
Post by: INSAYN on February 18, 2017, 11:21:22 AM
We caught them in the Sound kind of near the Narrows from a charter boat back when I was in high school. 
Really deep water.

Ugly as sin with creepy green eyes.  :o
Title: Re: Odd surf catch yesterday...
Post by: Warf on February 18, 2017, 09:24:41 PM
Be careful messing with those things, they have a couple needle sharp stickers on the back like a dogfish only longer and much sharper. It has a pretty nasty poison on those stickers, if you get stuck it will be a real screamer, you would think a bunch of hornets got you and it can infect badly so be careful...warf
Title: Re: Odd surf catch yesterday...
Post by: Clayman on February 19, 2017, 07:39:20 AM
Be careful messing with those things, they have a couple needle sharp stickers on the back like a dogfish only longer and much sharper. It has a pretty nasty poison on those stickers, if you get stuck it will be a real screamer, you would think a bunch of hornets got you and it can infect badly so be careful...warf
I've been reading the same thing, now that I'm doing more research on them.  The one I caught had a huge sticky-sharp spine on its dorsal fin.  The fin doesn't "fold" down either, leaving the spine sticking straight up.  It looked extremely painful.

The mouth of the fish was also a trip.  Really chompy plate/incisor like teeth.  Every time I put my finger near them he'd chomp down.  So watch your fingers near their mouths too!