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Kayak Fishing => Product Discussions => Topic started by: SwiftDraw on August 17, 2011, 01:28:50 PM

Title: anglersinnovations.com
Post by: SwiftDraw on August 17, 2011, 01:28:50 PM

Hello guys talked with a guy about a few of his products and they sounded intresting, so I thought I would present them here:

A LongLiner™ is a strike-activated release device that allows you to affix your sinker weight virtually anywhere on your fishing line. When a fish strikes, the LongLiner's trip mechanism releases and the LongLiner™ and sinker weight are released and slide down the fishing line to a swivel stop near enough to the fishing lure (or bait) that you can reel in the fish.

http://anglerinnovations.com/pages/longliner.aspx (http://anglerinnovations.com/pages/longliner.aspx)

He may be willing to let us try a few of his products, anyone game?

Chuck

Title: Re: anglersinnovations.com
Post by: Pelagic on August 17, 2011, 02:53:20 PM
I'd try a couple for salmon trolling on the coastal bays.  As a guide I could give him some decent feedback on how they work from a yak over multiple trips. 
Title: anglersinnovations.com
Post by: Jammer on August 18, 2011, 11:26:26 AM
Those are awesome! Ndogg and I ran into the inventor of the longliner at this last NW Sportmans expo. When he heard that we were both fishing from kayaks, he thru us a couple each for free to try. It works really well. I was just starting to experiment with it and prawn spinners last June, but stopped thanks to the freakin river getting all backed up. I didn't get a chance to feel the fish triggered release, but really liked how it held it's position with very little drag. You set your depth by where you clip it to the line. You guys should take him up on his free demo offer. I really think these have a place in kayak fishing.
Let's fish!
Title: Re: anglersinnovations.com
Post by: rawkfish on August 18, 2011, 11:31:35 AM
Those are awesome! Ndogg and I ran into the inventor of the longliner at this last NW Sportmans expo...

That was me you were with!   :D  Yeah, I still haven't put mine to use yet..   :BangHead:
Title: anglersinnovations.com
Post by: Jammer on August 18, 2011, 05:13:16 PM

That was me you were with!   :D     :BangHead:

Sorry Rawk! I knew it was one of you  guys, but had it backwards.

Does anyone think there's any benefit to using these for bass this time of year in the willy? You could run a shallow crank bait deep. Possibly target walleye as well.
Title: Re: anglersinnovations.com
Post by: Pelagic on August 18, 2011, 06:21:29 PM

That was me you were with!   :D     :BangHead:

Sorry Rawk! I knew it was one of you  guys, but had it backwards.

Does anyone think there's any benefit to using these for bass this time of year in the willy? You could run a shallow crank bait deep. Possibly target walleye as well.

Yes, for sure!  Small crayfish pattern plugs in deeper water with a touch of current should be game on!  Just make sure to use light line on your weight dropper.
Title: Re: anglersinnovations.com
Post by: demonick on August 19, 2011, 07:48:12 AM
I think I am missing the point of the LongLiner.  It seems to just make your terminal gear trail farther back from the sinker.  Big deal.  If I want a longer leader, I'll use a longer leader.  And, taking it to an extreme, why would I want my sinker 40 feet from my terminal gear?
Title: Re: anglersinnovations.com
Post by: Pelagic on August 19, 2011, 08:17:03 AM
I think I am missing the point of the LongLiner.  It seems to just make your terminal gear trail farther back from the sinker.  Big deal.  If I want a longer leader, I'll use a longer leader.  And, taking it to an extreme, why would I want my sinker 40 feet from my terminal gear?

You are missing the point ;D   Sometimes a long leader is necessary.  For instance long leaders up to 8ft (sometimes more) are used when trolling herring for salmon. Landing a fish by yourself when the leader may be longer than your rod gets difficult to say the least, particularly out of a kayak.  I have never used this product and won't speak to its credibility until I try it myself, but the ability to run a long leader and then have the device slide down to create a manageable leader length while landing fish has my interest.
Title: Re: anglersinnovations.com
Post by: polepole on August 19, 2011, 08:19:43 AM
Sometimes anything near a bait/lure is not good.  People regularly run baits far behind downriggers.

-Allen
Title: Re: anglersinnovations.com
Post by: demonick on August 19, 2011, 08:20:47 AM
You are missing the point ;D   Sometimes a long leader is necessary.  For instance long leaders up to 8ft (sometimes more) are used when trolling herring for salmon. Landing a fish by yourself when the leader may be longer than your rod gets difficult to say the least, particularly out of a kayak. 

Ahh ... Thanks.  I get it now. 
Title: Re: anglersinnovations.com
Post by: rawkfish on August 19, 2011, 08:41:23 AM
I don't want to (http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/images/smilies/Beating_A_Dead_Horse.gif), but here's an example:

Yesterday.  Off the Wells Point oil dock.  Big pink on in 170 FOW, ocean tug towing an oil barge blaring their horn at me (for no reason - I WAS NOT a factor in their mooring to the dock), guy on the fan tail screaming something unintelligible, leader on the flasher and lure combined to be too long for the net, trying to peddle to make the tug happy, tossed the net down and wrestled the fish into the boat from the line.  Net gone.  Promar foldable.  Story continues and ends tragically.

Just playin' with ya D  ;)
Title: Re: anglersinnovations.com
Post by: demonick on August 19, 2011, 09:00:13 AM
I don't want to (http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/images/smilies/Beating_A_Dead_Horse.gif), but here's an example:
... Story continues and ends tragically.
Just playin' with ya D  ;)
No problem.  I deserve it.  The story continues ...

The f**cking sea tug is still blaring its horn, I am NOT a factor but still peddling to increase the distance between us.  The fish is flopping a bit under my knees.  The guy on the fan tail is yelling something I can't hear over the horn ... I'm flustered.  I'm looking around hoping to see the net in the water.  I forgot the NUMBER ONE rule of being a pilot - FLY THE PLANE.  No matter what is going on, no matter what distractions may be occurring, your first responsibility is to FLY THE PLANE.  I knew I was not a factor for the tug/barge I should have ignored them and simply LANDED THE FISH - calmly, like I have done many times before. 

Then I did one of the dumbest things I have every done.  I looked down at this beautiful, fat, chrome, 7# pink hen and removed the hook buried deep in the front of the boney upper palate.  The fish slid forward beside the mirage peddles and started wildly flopping.  I grabbed at it, it pushed against my hand, another grab, it flapped its tail against the peddle, slid through my hands and over the side it went.  All I was left with was a few drops of blood and some scales. 

Many expletives were emitted for a long time.  The guy on the fantail was still yelling unintelligibly.  Deserved or not he got flipped off. 
Title: Re: anglersinnovations.com
Post by: Justin on August 19, 2011, 09:05:55 AM
This sounds like a great product (if it works).  I've always liked how sideplaners release and slide down to the swivel once triggered.  This does the same but as a "downrigger".

If i see one on a shelf, i might pick one up.
Title: Re: anglersinnovations.com
Post by: polepole on August 19, 2011, 09:16:01 AM
There is a similar concept that I've used up in BC when running spoons.  Run a large bead on your line with an egg sinker below it.  Between the egg sinker and your swivel run a 1" piece of surgical tubing.  Let your line out while holding onto the sinker and tubing.  When your line is the desired distance behind you, peg the tubing to the line using a "game peg" that fits snuggling inside the surgical tubing.  This holds the sinker in place.

When you hook up and reel in, just keep reeling through the bead/sinker.  The line slides through the surgical tubing no problem.

The one advantage the anglers innovations product has is that you can use a dropper if you are so inclined.  That would come in handy in the rivers/estuaries, but not needed in the ocean proper.

-Allen