NorthWest Kayak Anglers
Kayak Fishing => Product Discussions => Topic started by: revjcp on June 21, 2017, 11:19:26 PM
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Has anyone tried mooching with the superbaits? What was your experience vs regular mooching with real bait?
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Mooching no, trolling Yes, and it works
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Never thought of mooching with one..... May have to try that in the ocean this year.
My goal for this coming summer/fall season is to catch a Chinook with a jigging iron.
-Mark-
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Noob question: What's the difference between mooching and trolling? Does one not troll while mooching?
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yes, with the brad's cut plugs, and they work.
bait is probably better, but i've had success on mooching brad's in the ocean.
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Noob question: What's the difference between mooching and trolling? Does one not troll while mooching?
Basically, trolling means you're moving under power, either with a motor, sail, paddle, Mirage drive, etc. Mooching is letting the wind and current move you around instead (drifting), along with some other nuances of working the bait vertically through the water column.
When I'm running a plug-cut herring, I prefer "trooching": a mix of both trolling and mooching. I'll pedal forward until my line is roughly at a 45 degree angle away from me, then stop and let the bait spin towards the bottom. When my sinker hits bottom, I pedal forward again until the line rises to 45 degrees, then stop. I usually get bit as soon as the sinker touches bottom. This is super effective when the fish are relatively concentrated and are unwilling to chase a steadily-trolled herring.
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Isn't mooching just .... jigging, with a mooching rig instead of a jig....instead of trolling with a mooching rig...?
Man ! What do you call it when you troll with a jig ?
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Clayman:
"When I'm running a plug-cut herring, I prefer "trooching": a mix of both trolling and mooching. I'll pedal forward until my line is roughly at a 45 degree angle away from me, then stop and let the bait spin towards the bottom. When my sinker hits bottom, I pedal forward again until the line rises to 45 degrees, then stop. I usually get bit as soon as the sinker touches bottom. This is super effective when the fish are relatively concentrated and are unwilling to chase a steadily-trolled herring.
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One day in Nehalem Bay I turned an otherwise dead bite & horrible paddle against wind & rain into an eventful 30 minute fish fight with a 20lb native. I found lock jaw fish stacking in a hole & kept circling, mooching it dropping into the hole till one bit & picked me up for a ride. Mooching is an art we all should exolore more & unfortunately I dont use enough fishing freah waters in OR. I find its easier to do with a slow current to keeo the bait fluttering.
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For those who aren't familiar with mooching, here's a short tutorial.
http://youtu.be/quIB3gQ3t-o
Mark
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Isn't mooching just .... jigging, with a mooching rig instead of a jig....instead of trolling with a mooching rig...?
Man ! What do you call it when you troll with a jig ?
Albacore trolling?
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Thanks for the link, Spot. I'm actually subscribed to that channel but hadn't seen the video. Until now I had just assumed that mooching meant one was using a plug cut herring not that one was essentially jigging it. I'm pretty sure I caught mine doing Clayman's aptly coined "trooching" technique with a little bit of both.
Does anyone else ever wonder after they've been dangling their feet in the water for a while if its a good idea or not? Doesn't worry me at all in freshwater, but when I do it in the ocean I sometimes get the better of myself with my own headgames.
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My feet spend a lot of time over the sides while fishing in the ocean. Not sure if I'm just getting too comfortable with the ocean, or just being stoopid. I am plenty aware of the dangers lurking below, but also aware of the dangers just driving to the ocean, so it's kind of a wash if there is anything to really spend a lot of time stressing about it.
Now if there was a shark sighting, or aggressive fur bag in the area my feet will happily stay in the kayak. :-\
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Does anyone else ever wonder after they've been dangling their feet in the water for a while if its a good idea or not? Doesn't worry me at all in freshwater, but when I do it in the ocean I sometimes get the better of myself with my own headgames.
Been surfing for too many years to care without some overt sign that it's not a good idea.
-Mark-
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I'll take that as another sign of me being a giant wuss and resume my normal foot danglage. I honestly go out into the ocean because it scares the piss out of me and I don't like the idea of something scaring me and not facing it head on. That grey whale at PC definitely got the better of me once and I'm sure it didn't care at all that I was there.