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Topic: Coho vs. Chinook  (Read 2099 times)

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SD2OR

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So, I have been out numerous times in the last couple months, and have done pretty well on the coho. Have caught em on triangle and 360, cutplugs, swimbaits, trolling flies and spoons....
Ususally 25' or less on the depth counter.

My question: is there anything I can be doing to increase my chances of hooking a chinook?
One day I was out, and watched Clayman get one, but he wasn't doing anything different than what I just described. Last time I was out, I'm certain a fish I lost at the boat was a nook.

At times, I have tried trolling deeper, 50-75', but got few take downs and only 1 coho, if memory serves. I've yet to get a chinook out of my kayak, and would really like to change that. I've seen posts of others scoring them...does one just need to be lucky to find the chinook needle in the coho stack?
A day without fishing probably wouldn't kill me,
but why risk it?

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bogueYaker

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In my experience, the best way to catch a chinook is by fishing for coho. Chances really go up once chinook retention closes.

lol.


SD2OR

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LOL! Sounds about right!
A day without fishing probably wouldn't kill me,
but why risk it?

3rd Place AOTY 2023

3rd Place ORC 2023

1st Place Team Event BCS 2023
12th Place Individual BCS 2023

2nd Place AOTY 2022
1st Place Tiny Fish Slam 2022



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Clayman

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Try trolling really close to shore and near the bottom, say 30-50 FOW. Use cut-plug or a whole herring, either behind a triangle flasher or no flasher at all (no flasher at all is called a "straight bait" presentation). This time of year, many of the Chinook are hugging the shoreline while traveling south towards their respective spawning streams. They'll be less interested in lures, but a well-presented herring can be tough for them to pass up. You'll also avoid most of the coho by fishing tight to shore and close to the bottom. Expect fewer bites, but the bites you do get will most likely be Chinook.
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SD2OR

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Awesome, thanks for that Clayman!
A day without fishing probably wouldn't kill me,
but why risk it?

3rd Place AOTY 2023

3rd Place ORC 2023

1st Place Team Event BCS 2023
12th Place Individual BCS 2023

2nd Place AOTY 2022
1st Place Tiny Fish Slam 2022



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T Coastal

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Generally you'll wanna troll deep and slow. .5 to 1.5 MPH, also fish deep. I've always just gone as deep as I can, 60-90 feet usually? Unless you wanna use a downrigger the next best thing is a Deep 6 diver (one of the big ones) and let out about 190 feet of line. You'll be in the right zone.
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SD2OR

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A day without fishing probably wouldn't kill me,
but why risk it?

3rd Place AOTY 2023

3rd Place ORC 2023

1st Place Team Event BCS 2023
12th Place Individual BCS 2023

2nd Place AOTY 2022
1st Place Tiny Fish Slam 2022



2007 Red Hobie Outback "Serenity"
2021 Camo Hobie Outback "Lagertha"


workhard

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Try trolling really close to shore and near the bottom, say 30-50 FOW. Use cut-plug or a whole herring, either behind a triangle flasher or no flasher at all (no flasher at all is called a "straight bait" presentation). This time of year, many of the Chinook are hugging the shoreline while traveling south towards their respective spawning streams. They'll be less interested in lures, but a well-presented herring can be tough for them to pass up. You'll also avoid most of the coho by fishing tight to shore and close to the bottom. Expect fewer bites, but the bites you do get will most likely be Chinook.

+1. Good advice for ocean Chinook late in the season.


Captain Redbeard

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I tried this for about 90 minutes yesterday morning of out of Pacific City. I hooked a lot of fish! But they were all rockfish and lingcod.

When using this strategy do you just take a ton of bait with you and plan on rebaiting often, or was I too close to structure? (I was in 35-50 FOW the entire time, mostly sandy bottom.)


Clayman

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I tried this for about 90 minutes yesterday morning of out of Pacific City. I hooked a lot of fish! But they were all rockfish and lingcod.

When using this strategy do you just take a ton of bait with you and plan on rebaiting often, or was I too close to structure? (I was in 35-50 FOW the entire time, mostly sandy bottom.)
If you're doing it around structure, you'll inevitably burn through a lot of bait due to rockfish and lings. I prefer to do it away from structure, but sometimes the salmon are up on the reef, so that's where you gotta go.

I fished PC for a couple hours Friday morning, and the water was frigid (48 degrees) and crystal clear. Not conducive to holding salmon.
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Captain Redbeard

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I tried this for about 90 minutes yesterday morning of out of Pacific City. I hooked a lot of fish! But they were all rockfish and lingcod.

When using this strategy do you just take a ton of bait with you and plan on rebaiting often, or was I too close to structure? (I was in 35-50 FOW the entire time, mostly sandy bottom.)
If you're doing it around structure, you'll inevitably burn through a lot of bait due to rockfish and lings. I prefer to do it away from structure, but sometimes the salmon are up on the reef, so that's where you gotta go.

I fished PC for a couple hours Friday morning, and the water was frigid (48 degrees) and crystal clear. Not conducive to holding salmon.

OK, thanks, makes sense. Yeah, I noticed the 48F on the fish finder and thought that was a bit on the cold side. It was ~51F at ~80FOW.