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Topic: Pause for MA10 Winter Chinook  (Read 1842 times)

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bogueYaker

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https://fortress.wa.gov/dfw/erules/efishrules/erule.jsp?id=2797

Bit of a drag given the forecast for this weekend.

An aside: I'd rather encounters be allocated to the summer when we're fishing for biggies instead of being split between winter fishing when we're going after salmon-trout. Not sure that's how any of this works, though.


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I agree, that is a bummer and I also agree that I would rather save allocated king encounters for when real king sizes are around rather than split them during winter when there's so many sublegal or barely legal sized fish. On that same logic, I would rather not see that much pressure on trout size resident coho till they get more decent sizes but there you go.


skayaker2

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Perhaps stating the obvious, but the emergency closure applies to all salmon, not just chinook.


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i'm curious if winter/summer encounters are combined into one pool. i'd thought they were separate, but maybe not?


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i'm curious if winter/summer encounters are combined into one pool. i'd thought they were separate, but maybe not?

Fishery impacts are essentially modeled by time and area from coded-wire tag data. You cannot really shift impacts from Winter to Summer because individual stock impacts (ultimately what everything is being managed by, mostly the ESA variety) are present at different times/areas making Winter and Summer apples to oranges.


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i'm curious if winter/summer encounters are combined into one pool. i'd thought they were separate, but maybe not?

Fishery impacts are essentially modeled by time and area from coded-wire tag data. You cannot really shift impacts from Winter to Summer because individual stock impacts (ultimately what everything is being managed by, mostly the ESA variety) are present at different times/areas making Winter and Summer apples to oranges.

Ah, thanks for your insight here.

Sorry, didn't mean to stir the pot with misinformation!


workhard

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i'm curious if winter/summer encounters are combined into one pool. i'd thought they were separate, but maybe not?

Fishery impacts are essentially modeled by time and area from coded-wire tag data. You cannot really shift impacts from Winter to Summer because individual stock impacts (ultimately what everything is being managed by, mostly the ESA variety) are present at different times/areas making Winter and Summer apples to oranges.

Ah, thanks for your insight here.

Sorry, didn't mean to stir the pot with misinformation!

Salmon fishery management in this state is extremely complicated out of necessity. Agreements, modeling, estimation of impacts, etc... are all designed to squeak out and/or account for all impacts in the environment of state/tribal sharing and the endangered species act.

It's just a huge system involving hundreds of specialized staff so the vast majority of people have no idea how it works, or have really simple ideas on how it works.
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