NorthWest Kayak Anglers
Kayak Fishing => Product Discussions => Topic started by: fishnut on January 21, 2010, 07:04:02 AM
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Seeking input from you guys what you suggest for wearing for footwear with dry suits and or waders with a dry top. I don't think i want to wear my studded wading boots that I wear with my breathable chesties. Bad idea.
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Crocs, one size bigger than usual, have drain holes and do a nice job protecting your dry suit foots.
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I wear my surfing booties over the waders. You may need to get a size bigger than usual to fit well.
Gotta protect them wader footies. :banjo:
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I wear my studded wading boots in my kayak. Never had any problems from it. My feet are either pushing up against the hard plastic steering pedals, or hanging over the side - so no weighted contact with the softer plastic of the hull.
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Booties user here.
-Allen
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Spot turned me onto these, and I gotta say, I haven't had any problems with dry suit tears.
(http://api.ning.com/files/Q1v-FSlMNXuwzxO7ncsE3GbJOECkzeaXv9mJBGKnFbdnTJOIb7P*sVV7mmMRq18183zp27mA2EebDHk364Xi9mvr7X*aly8i/REDBOOTSscarytimes.jpg)
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I've sure got to meet Spot. He's surely a he/she?man of discerning taste. No wonder
he's the Global Moderator. He can bring all types together. Question: Are those spiked heels sharp enough to penetrate my tupperware?
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I also think I can operate my ff/gps more easily with my feet with those beauties :3some:
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I wear my surfing booties over the waders. You may need to get a size bigger than usual to fit well.
Gotta protect them wader footies. :banjo:
Same here. I like mine because they are pretty "grippy" on the polyethylene when standing in my Ultimate 12. I wear two sizes larger than normal over my waders. Size 11 over thin liner socks when surfing wearing a wetsuit, but size 13 over the 3.5mm or 4mm (not sure which) neoprene stocking feet of my waders.
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Yes, a warm Spot injection is known to do a man good. It can cure hangovers and break hearts. I've even heard that it can render sorority girls "sleepy." But that's likely heresay.
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Spot.Where can I get a pair of those beautious streetwalkers? If nothing else,if fishings bad, I can maybe pimp myself out.
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Spot turned me onto these, and I gotta say, I haven't had any problems with dry suit tears.
(http://api.ning.com/files/Q1v-FSlMNXuwzxO7ncsE3GbJOECkzeaXv9mJBGKnFbdnTJOIb7P*sVV7mmMRq18183zp27mA2EebDHk364Xi9mvr7X*aly8i/REDBOOTSscarytimes.jpg)
I have a pair of these...I keep a lively anchovy in the heel of each one..
Brian
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crocs, schmocks..those are sooooo 3rd world.. go get a set river sandals at payless for under 30 bucks and you have something to wear both on and off the yak. just go one size larger.
tried my felt soled wading boots when i 1st started.. with frankenstein sized feet, (the boots are 15's) i had trouble keeping my heels locked into the footwells. thats why i went down to the smaller profile shoe.
all comes down to what you feel works best for you, tho. don't forget to check out our sponsor, outdoorplay, for their foot gear specials.
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I've been wearing a pair of these. They are great for wet wading as well as on the boat.
http://korkers.com/footwear/multi-sport/torrent-shoe.html?SID=b74394e0679d66308231c6442f8bcffe
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I started out with waders that had thick neoprene booties attached and put some black crocs over them. Once I got my drysuit the booties were non-neoprene so put booties over them. They always left my feet cold since they are in the air on the pedals and the wind put a chill on quick. I've also been recently busting my feet on everything, logs, stumps, whatever, so wanted some protection. So I've got some thick neoprene booties that go over the drysuit and then some wading boots on top to keep the wind out and more fumble proof. So far so good.
Z
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I use thicker neoprene booties too. Mine are NRS Cross 4's.
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I use the cross 4's as well. Seamed to be a little crammed at first but you stretch into them after a short time. They work great!
http://www.outdoorplay.com/store/Product.asp?DID=744&PDID=726&SKU=PFT_NSCR4
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I've been doing the Croc's and Speedo water sandals (ala Costco) for the past two years and they work fine for the most part. One thing to consider when using them is sand and pebbles do get in them, causing extra wear and discomfort.
I'm looking at getting the NRS Boundary Shoe.
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Crocs and speedo? Was this you at the Liquor Barn, then?
http://www.latitude38.com/lectronic/img_lectronic_432/2009-10-09_8703_Vik5,%20Speedoandcrocp.tif.jpg
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Sand in a speedo would definitely be uncomfortable.
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That's frickin' disgusting. Can you say " su-e, su-e, squel like a pig/". That guy
definetly needs some serious paddling or he'd sink the Kitty Hawk. :banjo: :banjo:
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Crocs and speedo? Was this you at the Liquor Barn, then?
http://www.latitude38.com/lectronic/img_lectronic_432/2009-10-09_8703_Vik5,%20Speedoandcrocp.tif.jpg
Dude ... keep it in the chum bucket .... PLEASE!!! :police:
-Allen
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Well, I didn't embed it for a reason!
(http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/cannot_be_unseen.jpg)
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Alright a$$clowns... :spittake: Speedo WATERSHOES.
(http://di1.shopping.com/images/di/71/35/2d/63414d525664666e327667767a33445a556867-250x250-0-0.jpg)
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Cross 4's here as well
SD
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cross 4 is a good all round bootie. the zip on the ankle makes it easy on & off, and good flexable rubber sole are decent for walking and aren't as combersome as wading boots can be. They're thick enough that blackberry brambles wont puncture. The neoprene is a good all around thickness, good insulation in cold, not crazy hot when its not.
If you find yourself walking in deep mud, or in surf etc., the keen payette is a little better. It will stay on your foot through just about anything, but that also makes it harder to put on & take off. thinner neoprene also, but a little stiffer sole for rocks & whatnot.
J
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For all you that get cold feet, what exact stackup are you using?
I use wool socks under drysuit feet under 7mm dive booties. My feet don't get cold. They do get hot sometimes, but nothing that dangling them in the drink doesn't cure. I also have 3 mm booties that I size down to as appropriate. Or I go thinner than wool socks. Or both.
-Alllen
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I've been using Smartwools or socks meant for cowboy boots. Both tend to breath really well and wick the moisture away from the foot. I like the cowboy boot socks the best because they tend to stay put and not bunch up around the ankles.
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Anybody ever try those navy seal boots that NRS sells? The rep had some at the Alder Creek demo day and they looked pretty cool.
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Sorry, PolePole. Forgot it's rated family friendly. Please forgive my lack of discretion.
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Sorry, PolePole. Forgot it's rated family friendly. Please forgive my lack of discretion.
I must have missed something, so it must be all good. ;)
-Allen
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For all you that get cold feet, what exact stackup are you using?
I use wool socks under drysuit feet under 7mm dive booties. My feet don't get cold. They do get hot sometimes, but nothing that dangling them in the drink doesn't cure. I also have 3 mm booties that I size down to as appropriate. Or I go thinner than wool socks. Or both.
-Alllen
I've yet to have cold feet. I start with fleece socks likes these....
(http://knuetes.com/assets/images/products/po200so1.jpg)
And then the neoprene booties that are attached to my waders.
For shoes, I've been using a cheap old pair of $7 Walmart water shoes. I really need to find some better shoes for this year, I just don't trust them in deep sand, or mud. :-\
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/INSAYN_BCR/Fishing/Hagg%20Lake%2091709/P9170026.jpg)
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Nutters-
It was I who was in violation of my predescribed chum bucket boundries. But the combo of crocs and speedo was too much for the little discretion that I do possess. By the way, Deschutes Brewery - and I know you frequent the kayak fishin' boards - discontinuing the cinder cone red is stoopid. Just sayin'.
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No worries AJ... I shoulda seen that one coming.
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I Picked up some fleece socks when i was in Alaska and went dog sleding they kept my feet warm. i am working on a good pattern for some fleece socks that i will have at the South South Meet Up in Feb.
I am allergic to Wool so i am having to find different non cotton or not all cotten warmth sources.
SG
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For all you that get cold feet, what exact stackup are you using?
I use wool socks under drysuit feet under 7mm dive booties. My feet don't get cold. They do get hot sometimes, but nothing that dangling them in the drink doesn't cure. I also have 3 mm booties that I size down to as appropriate. Or I go thinner than wool socks. Or both.
-Alllen
I have a light pair of socks, then smart wool, then the dry suit integrated booties, then the Cross 4s. Last time out I stuffed a couple chemical toe warmers between the two pairs of socks. Toasty!
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have some poly propoleyne wicking socks i wear with heavy duty wool over top my in my waders , and have gone to a set of neoprene booties over top the wader feet once when extremely cold.
warehouse/wholsesale sports has really good very thick socks geared toward waders if you're looking for another big layer.
remember, adding layers means you might have to go bigger on the shoe , too. having everything skin tight counters to the thermal effect you are looking for.
gotta get squid girl to make me a pair of fleece socks. that should cut down on the extra bulk.
just realized, someone else brought up the only draw back i found to wearing "river shoes"; if you arent careful making your selection, and you get into some muck with a lot of suction, you'll probably lose your shoes if they are a sloppy fit.
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I wear regular athletic socks (1st layer) then wool socks under the dry suit. Over the top, I wear the Northwest River Supply Cross 4 neoprene boots I picked up at Alder Creek. I like them a lot. I pulled the yak about 1/2 a mile while wearing these boots and they were very comfy.
Also, I was out attempting to catch a sturgeon on the Willamette New Years weekend with my feet hanging in the water and my feet were not cold. There was a whole lot of DAMHIK that day (don't leave your paddle home if your intent is to fish from a paddlecraft, bring an extra set of keys, don't buy your sand shrimp too far in advance, etc.....), but my feet were warm. Also, if anyone is fishing at George Roger's Park in Lake O and stumbles across a set of Isuzu keys let me know :'(.
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Ok, I finally killed my Walmart water shoes this weekend. My heels tore the material away from the sole, rendering them more like flip flops now. So, I'm on the lookout for some new kicks.
The NRS Cross 4 seem to be popular here. And I am considering them.
(http://www.outdoorplay.com/core/media/media.nl?id=3454&c=436469&h=fedc3c95756dd51f9b10)
I'm also liking these NRS Attack Shoes with the adjustable arch strap w/buckle, heal strap and the shoe like traction on the sole.
Anyone have any good/bad experience with this shoe?
(http://www.outdoorplay.com/core/media/media.nl?id=3447&c=436469&h=e6a42d412027ed4c613e)
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The attack shoe is awesome. I'd say the biggest difference is the ease of putting them on & taking them off. The zip on the cross 4 makes this easy, but the boot is more likely to get sucked off in deep mud or big water. The attack probably won't come off, and is much better for hiking on rocks etc. but harder to get on and off.
Both are good, attack is beefier.
J
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I agree with "Ravdakot" on his early reply in regards to Korkers brand. I have used the same Korkers Flyfishing boot now for 6 years and love 'em. I have used these boots on the kayak as well, but the boots are a little to cumbersome for the yak. I am looking to upgrade very soon to Korkers newer sandal style shoe that also has 8 different interchangeable soles. The newer sandal style is perfect for slipping over the booty of my wetsuit, waiters and drysuit. And can even be readjusted and worn right on the bare feet. I have to say that the biggest asset to this line is the interchangeable soles. Check out the website below
Michael (jammer) from Milwaukie
http://www.korkers.com/footwear/multi-sport/swift-sandal.html
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Regular old socks, then seal skin socks, then these muck boot cikana shoes, should keep the feet breathing. Scored them a few months ago at wholesale sports (on 82nd Ave.) closeout for $29.99. Good for the hike/drag to the sand. On a real warm day, I might just go with surfer booties for dangling. At that price I actually bought two pair, the ones in the pic are my dirty dog walkers.
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If you haven't already check out the ones in the REI outlet they have two different pair Warmers I think they are called they look pretty solid. That said I have cross 4's and they are pretty comfy. Ling Banger might be on to something though I have a pair of Muck knee boots and they are comfy as running shoes.
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basic surfer booties work well for me. I do a bit of scrambling on the rocks to get to and from fishing holes, and they have held up well for the abuse given them. under $20.00
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Ended up finding some neoprene wading boots at the Tillamook Sporting Goods store. Not my first choice in shopping due to some pricing, but these were reasonable at $37. The Hodgman Neoprene Waders are very similar to the NRS Cross 4's. Main differences are where the zippers are located, and that the Hodgman has alot more sole that wraps higher up on the boot. Although the NRS Cross 4's have a strap over the foot, I think the extra rubber around the foot on the Hodgman's eliminates the need for the strap, as they feel very secure, and comfortable while walking, and kayaking. Wore them clamming, and fishing during Spring Break, normal spring ocean/bay water temps = warm dry feet. Spent all day at Hagg Lake this Saturday, and never had cold feet even with air temps in the low 30's, water temps in the mid 40's, and quite breezy.
(http://www.dynamicaqua.com/chestwaders_files/T181.jpg)
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The Hodgman Neoprene Waders are very similar to the NRS Cross 4's. Main differences are where the zippers are located, and that the Hodgman has alot more sole that wraps higher up on the boot. Although the NRS Cross 4's have a strap over the foot, I think the extra rubber around the foot on the Hodgman's eliminates the need for the strap, as they feel very secure, and comfortable while walking, and kayaking.
Your Hodgman's may solve the occasionally problem I have with my Cross 4's, the sole slightly riding up on one side of my foot. A more substantial fitted sole may prevent this.
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I use these neosport napoleon boots and i love 'em! just don't want to overtop them with water and they stay nice and dry and keep my calfs warm when i'm pedaling in to strong cold wind. A couple sizes too big allows for layering for warmth.
Wool socks for really cold but normally just some baseball type sock or regular tube socks.
http://www.scuba.com/scuba-gear-13/002009/Neosport-by-Henderson-5mm-Explorer-Kayak-Boots.html
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Just got my drysuit a few weeks back. I was thinking about the NRS Boundary shoe for colder days with some fleece or wool socks.
http://www.nrsweb.com/shop/product.asp?pfid=2308&pdeptid=1169 (http://www.nrsweb.com/shop/product.asp?pfid=2308&pdeptid=1169)
And the Shimano Evair Marine/Fishing shoes for warmer weathers.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0051HDRES (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0051HDRES)
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The Boundary Shoe looks to me like it would hold a lot of water making them very heavy.
I don't want a "waterproof" shoe/boot over my waders or dry suit, I'd prefer that it "leak" out any water that gets in like my Korkers. I put multiple layers of wool socks inside my "booties" for warmth and just want the shoes to give me traction and protection if I have to walk across rocks or a slippery ramp.
I'm a newby, but this just seems logical to me.
iHop
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I agree IHop. Wading boots for stocking
foot waders are not waterproof - they drain
well. I notice lots of pics and vids with crox.
I wear old felt sole wading boots myself.
If I see a cheap pair of big Crox I will add
those since they float and are lighter.
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These are what I use, love em, no regrets. I use a size larger in winter for extra socks http://www.rei.com/product/752309/warmers-delta-ii-zip-booties-06-closeout (http://www.rei.com/product/752309/warmers-delta-ii-zip-booties-06-closeout)
Those of you wearing wading boots may want to think about how effectively you can swim with them on, I found it futile at best. A re-entry in deep water often requires some treading of water which I found difficult wearing clunky wading boots.
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These are what I use, love em, no regrets. I use a size larger in winter for extra socks http://www.rei.com/product/752309/warmers-delta-ii-zip-booties-06-closeout (http://www.rei.com/product/752309/warmers-delta-ii-zip-booties-06-closeout)
Those of you wearing wading boots may want to think about how effectively you can swim with them on, I found it futile at best. A re-entry in deep water often requires some treading of water which I found difficult wearing clunky wading boots.
I've gone swimming with wading-type booties with gaiters and its a real PITA to pull your legs up when they are filled with water. IMHO a pair of neoprene booties or self-draining water shoes would be the best choice to wear over a dry-suit.
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That is a great point pelagic and Mark. I will try a little harder to find something lighter.
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I've personally had no trouble re-entering with studded wading boots on. That said, I'm sure it is a little easier with neoprene as they aren't as bulky, but the reason I went to neoprene was the increased warmth and comfort.
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The Boundary Shoe looks to me like it would hold a lot of water making them very heavy.
I don't want a "waterproof" shoe/boot over my waders or dry suit, I'd prefer that it "leak" out any water that gets in like my Korkers. I put multiple layers of wool socks inside my "booties" for warmth and just want the shoes to give me traction and protection if I have to walk across rocks or a slippery ramp.
I'm a newby, but this just seems logical to me.
iHop
I have a pair of the boundary boots and iHop is right, they are too heavy when filled with water to lift my feet in to the kayak. In fact I don't use them, if you really want to try some I can give you a deal on an almost new pair (size 11 I think).
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So, I had started out with the Hodgman boots only to have a zipper take a crap on me early on. The slide is made of plastic, and just grenaded on me at a bad time. The soles were a bit soft and felt slightly unstable on soft sand and rocks.
(http://www.dynamicaqua.com/chestwaders_files/T181.jpg)
Then I went on a search for better boots and found these Akona Titanium boots at a local dive shop.
These have a nice firm sole for great stability and walking on sharp rocks. The zippers are a side pull, instead of center pull, and made of metal. The toe has a nice full rubber cover to protect the neoprene from being damaged by shells and such. So far after several years of abuse they have held up really well. Very warm in the coldest of Oregon waters.
(http://www.houseofscuba.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/boo41.jpg)
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All good points made. Looks like a no go on the Boundary. I was just thinking they would make for easier walking if I had to go through some deep mud like Chambers Bay and Oakland Bay as well as increase the warmth.
What do you guys think of the Shimano Evair shoe.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0051HDRES (http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0051HDRES)
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The Akona Titaniums are inexpensive! And 6mm.
http://www.amazon.com/TITANIUM-Booties-Rafting-Snorkeling-AKBT165/dp/B000QT6SIS (http://www.amazon.com/TITANIUM-Booties-Rafting-Snorkeling-AKBT165/dp/B000QT6SIS)
The NRS Cross4 is only 4mm.
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The Akona Titaniums are inexpensive! And 6mm.
http://www.amazon.com/TITANIUM-Booties-Rafting-Snorkeling-AKBT165/dp/B000QT6SIS (http://www.amazon.com/TITANIUM-Booties-Rafting-Snorkeling-AKBT165/dp/B000QT6SIS)
When reading the product description, I couldn't help the feeling that I was reading a Nyquil commercial.
"NEW AKONA 6MM TITANIUM Boot Booties Scuba Dive Diving Jet Ski Kayak Rafting Snorkeling Sports Water AKBT165" so you can keep your feet warm medicine.
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As INSAYN pointed out, Akona makes good stuff - I'm a big fan. I've been using the NRS Cross-4 for a couple of years now and they've held up very well. I'm happy with them.
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I bought the wife a set of 510 Water Tennies a couple of weeks ago, they look like awesome, waiter boot styling with a hard sole and super sticky rubber, without alot of bulk and they look like they should drain really well.
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Bought a pair of oversize Crocs (not to be confused with dinos) for $5 at Goodwill today for warmer weather.
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+1 on the Cross 4s. I like mine, but...I did not factor in the thickness of heavy wool socks so I am in the market for a larger pair of boots. too. For $29 I am trying the Akonas
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The Akona Titaniums are inexpensive! And 6mm.
http://www.amazon.com/TITANIUM-Booties-Rafting-Snorkeling-AKBT165/dp/B000QT6SIS (http://www.amazon.com/TITANIUM-Booties-Rafting-Snorkeling-AKBT165/dp/B000QT6SIS)
The NRS Cross4 is only 4mm.
Looks good, price is good too. But, lacks sizes in Amazon.
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The Akona Titaniums are inexpensive! And 6mm.
http://www.amazon.com/TITANIUM-Booties-Rafting-Snorkeling-AKBT165/dp/B000QT6SIS (http://www.amazon.com/TITANIUM-Booties-Rafting-Snorkeling-AKBT165/dp/B000QT6SIS)
The NRS Cross4 is only 4mm.
Looks good, price is good too. But, lacks sizes in Amazon.
Take the price that Amazon has into your local dive shop and see if they'll match the price. That way you can try on a pair with your sock and suit/waders.
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Damn, doesn't anyone make stuff for sasquatch sized feet anymore? stops at 13 DD? soooo sad........
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I like my Cross4s too, and have used them for a few years. When they need replacing I'll try the ATs.
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I have a question for those that are "leg danglers":
When wearing dry pants without the built-in socks, what boots/shoes seal up well enough to keep your feet dry?
My common sense is telling me this is not practical. Am I correct in my conclusion in that-if you want dry feet- go with socks built-in to your bottoms? With this being the case, wouldn't a well draining boot/shoe be preferred over one that seals up?
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That's how I see it. Doesn't make sense to hold water in your boots.
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My Cross4s "seal up" and the ATs seems similar, but both are snug enough to not hold water. A wetsuit "holds" water too.
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Crocs with a good Simms or Smartwool sock is my choice. I'm in Alaska and my feet don't get cold. I might suggest that some of you might have cold feet because with booties over waders (or drysuit) over socks creates a cramped situations and you are compromising the blood flow to your feet and toes. I've been tweaking my footwear for about 14 years and this is working the best for me.
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(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41FZoflHuML.jpg)
I was able to help a little with development of these water shoes for kayakers and pretty happy with what they've come up with. They listened to kayak paddlers/pedalers and have some functionality that makes them nice and comfy for us. Pads on the back of heels, toes, and the feel and protection is really nice.
http://awt.sperrytopsider.com/SON-R/technology/ (http://awt.sperrytopsider.com/SON-R/technology/)
The one thing I am a bit bummed on is the price. If they were $50-$60 I think it'd be appropriate but $90?? Geez. If you've got the scratch they are nice but watch for them on Zappos and they'd be definitely worth getting on sale.
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(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41FZoflHuML.jpg)
I was able to help a little with development of these water shoes for kayakers and pretty happy with what they've come up with. They listened to kayak paddlers/pedalers and have some functionality that makes them nice and comfy for us. Pads on the back of heels, toes, and the feel and protection is really nice.
http://awt.sperrytopsider.com/SON-R/technology/ (http://awt.sperrytopsider.com/SON-R/technology/)
The one thing I am a bit bummed on is the price. If they were $50-$60 I think it'd be appropriate but $90?? Geez. If you've got the scratch they are nice but watch for them on Zappos and they'd be definitely worth getting on sale.
When in the development process did you have you dry suit on? Just wondering if you and how many sizes up did you get to accommodate socks and drysuit socks?
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When in the development process did you have you dry suit on? Just wondering if you and how many sizes up did you get to accommodate socks and drysuit socks?
Yep. Actually, I can't remember the last time I went kayak fishing w/o a drysuit. :P I'd go with a size up over you normal and what Chris (Liquid Adventures) suggested. Good quality socks go a long way.
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Damn, doesn't anyone make stuff for sasquatch sized feet anymore? stops at 13 DD? soooo sad........
ya, with the "sock" and having a wide foot a 13 wide would be nice
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Does anyone have any experience with Bogs Jamison boots? Amazon.com has them for just over $50.
(http://www.shoes.com/ProductImages/shoes_iaec1326152.jpg)
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Ok...close to getting a drysuit,started thinking about the feet again. Currently using Teva sandals over waders , they're just too small so gotta do something anyway. Good info on this thread- most of the posts are couple years old . Any new ideas or products you love? Tired of wrestling those Tevas on. Thanks guys :)
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I wear the caddis neoprene booties
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/caddis-neoprene-wading-shoes.aspx?a=590903 (http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/caddis-neoprene-wading-shoes.aspx?a=590903)
They work great. Easy fit, easy on and off. Comfortable all day long. Expands for different layering. Cheap.
(http://simage1.sportsmansguide.com/adimgs/l/1/175958_ts.jpg)
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I ended up going with these:
(http://www.progressivemed.com/images/50608-16.jpg)
I've been out on the kayak with them three times in the last couple weeks. Very comfortable, durable and warm. I bought them from Outdoorplay.com for about $80.
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Hey Dean. Swing by next adventure they recently got in some pretty nice booties that are about 30 bucks. They work pretty good under a dry suit.
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I like wearing Bogs over my drysuit. Keeps my feet warm, protects my suit if I don't get foreign objects down in there, and allows for readiness for hauling upstream for steelheading, transporting with Wheeleez...etc. They wouldn't be great to swim with, but my X-Factor with flotation isn't going to leave me needing to swim, and if I do experience that I can get them off if they give me trouble.
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NRS Paddle Wetshoe, but wear it OVER your dry suit, not under like Noah.
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Hey Dean. Swing by next adventure they recently got in some pretty nice booties that are about 30 bucks. They work pretty good under a dry suit.
thanks ,noah...sounds like the $ I was thinking ofNRS Paddle Wetshoe, but wear it OVER your dry suit, not under like Noah.
Yeah ,Iwas hoping for something on the outside....but I am new to this,so I'll try it if Noah says so ;D
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I like wearing Bogs over my drysuit. Keeps my feet warm, protects my suit if I don't get foreign objects down in there, and allows for readiness for hauling upstream for steelheading, transporting with Wheeleez...etc. They wouldn't be great to swim with, but my X-Factor with flotation isn't going to leave me needing to swim, and if I do experience that I can get them off if they give me trouble.
Great how the perfectly aligned herring turn into a huge salmon! Also, I might try Bogs on the wrong feet...looks like it works! ;D
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NOW I see my problem, I keep putting my boots on the proper foot, over my dry suit, no wonder I never catch fish!
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I like wearing Bogs over my drysuit. Keeps my feet warm, protects my suit if I don't get foreign objects down in there, and allows for readiness for hauling upstream for steelheading, transporting with Wheeleez...etc. They wouldn't be great to swim with, but my X-Factor with flotation isn't going to leave me needing to swim, and if I do experience that I can get them off if they give me trouble.
Great how the perfectly aligned herring turn into a huge salmon! Also, I might try Bogs on the wrong feet...looks like it works! ;D
Pssst those are anchovies :P
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I use 7 mms diving boots that have a rubber sole on them keeps me warm and dry.
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I use zipperless neoprene dive booties. You can find them with thicker soles from Scuba Pro and others. Most have thin bottoms so they will flex easily when wearing fins, i.e. scuba diving.
I don't have problems with cold feet or hands so long as I keep the trunk of my body warm. When the trunk is cold the body automatically stops sending as much blood to the hands and feet (and ultimately the brain) to conserve the body's core temperature. Cold feet are a symptom that your main body is not warm enough.
I tried "water shoes" but found that they took days to dry out completely so back to booties. Crocs work well for others but can trap sand which would be abrasive with drysuit fabric at the feet.
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I just got a pair of the NRS Paddle Wetshoes. Was going to the Cross-4s, but they were out of my size. NRS is clearancing out a bunch of their shoes right now. I'll let you know the results.
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crocs, schmocks..those are sooooo 3rd world.. go get a set river sandals at payless for under 30 bucks and you have something to wear both on and off the yak. just go one size larger.
tried my felt soled wading boots when i 1st started.. with frankenstein sized feet, (the boots are 15's) i had trouble keeping my heels locked into the footwells. thats why i went down to the smaller profile shoe.
all comes down to what you feel works best for you, tho. don't forget to check out our sponsor, outdoorplay, for their foot gear specials.
Another great site to look goodies - outdoorplay - besides the website are the local?
Roger
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almost missed this, Roger. Yes, they are local, based on the WA side of the Columbia. Like all our other sponsors, they are great to work with But, they've been supporting us for many years more. Al Kazasi (sic) one of our older members, is a senior guy there. And they extend us a small discount too.
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have tried various...cold feet no more! i found 8 mil. neoprene, side zipper boots. called "thug" boots. awesome boots!
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Anyone looking for summer water wear costco in Warrenton has speedo brand water sneakers with hard soles $20
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Those are pretty awesome! I could use a pair of those for my neoprene socked waders. Wondering if Costco in Albany has these ?? Thanks for the post.
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Anyone looking for summer water wear costco in Warrenton has speedo brand water sneakers with hard soles $20
I saw these and almost picked up a pair. Comfortable?
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Anyone looking for summer water wear costco in Warrenton has speedo brand water sneakers with hard soles $20
I saw these and almost picked up a pair. Comfortable?
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If they are like what they had last year, very. I wear them during warm water kayaking just to have something to protect the soles of my feet.
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Anyone looking for summer water wear costco in Warrenton has speedo brand water sneakers with hard soles $20
I saw these and almost picked up a pair. Comfortable?
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I have been wearing them around the trailer for two days now as there way cooler then my old guy slip on slipper/shoes because they breathe well . Very comfortable.
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I was looking on Amazon last night for some. A person reviewed them and said they got them at Costco cheaper. I may grab a pair.
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Very comfortable year around over paddle pants or a dry suit.
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To add my two cents to this... I got some of the NRS boundaries at first but they were a little on the large size for me. I got the same size in the NRS paddle wetshoe and it fits great with or without socks/suit/etc. I love them even in the heat. They fit really well and are nice and grippy when needed.
http://www.nrs.com/product/30034.03/nrs-mens-paddle-wetshoe
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I use my neoprene scuba booties. Nice and warm when hanging my legs over the side of the kayak in the salt.
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Ihave a set of NRS Mukluck Boundry booties, they come to just below the knee.
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thug boots, side zipper 8mm neoprene. awesome boots!
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Ihave a set of NRS Mukluck Boundry booties, they come to just below the knee.
I have the same boots.
Take a spent .22 shell, grab it with your vise grips and heat it red hot.
Use it to melt some holes across the top of the foot under the strap.
Now when you leave the water, loosen the strap and you won't have 3 gallons on water in your boot.
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If anyone cares... I've had 2 sets of NRS Boundary Boots (2020 run) on order for 3 months and no end in sight. Austin Kayak keeps telling me "NRS says soon!"
I'm getting pretty close to canceling my order and getting the Kokatat Nomad boot. I like Kokatat overall but I had one friend give me a negative review of those boots - anyone else have an opinion?
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I gotta say, I never thought I'd be part of a forum where a bunch of guys talked about shoes for literally 10 years! ;D
On a more serious note, I've never understood the idea of the NRS boundary boots paired with a drysuit. All I can think about it all of that extra fabric on fabric action slowly wearing teeny little holes in the Goretex on my suit. The Boundary boot makes a ton of sense if you're wading in salt flats in Texas during the winter (sans drysuit or waders and just trying to keep your feet warm and dry), but what's the point in wearing something that keeps your dry up to your knees when you're wearing something that keeps you dry up to your chin under it?
I've been wearing Astral Loyaks for years with my drysuit when it's not literally freezing outside (just thick wool socks inside of my drysuit provides all the insulation), and then a pair of regular NRS booties if it's absolutely arctic out there. Going back and forth between the two has really highlighted how much better the grip is on the Astrals, and I've come to prefer the fact that they drain as opposed to water pooling in them like it always does in neoprene boots. At this point I'm considering just wearing Astrals year round and adding a pair of neoprene socks outside of my drysuits for extra insulation on the coldest days.
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Well, I can only speak for myself, but the scheme you described would absolutely not be sufficient for me to stay fishing in the kayak in winter for more than an hour or so. It's great it works for you. I have always had trouble keeping my feet warm in the winter - poor circulation, I suppose.
My plan with the boundary boot in situations where I need to get deep to launch is to launch in sandals and then put the boots on once I'm in the kayak. That way the only water inside the boot will be residual dampness and not my feet having to keep a couple cups of water warm all day. If I can launch shallow then I'll just wear the boots. I don't know if it will work, but that's what I'm going to try first.
Regarding wear on your drysuit - I suspect Goretex is tougher than you think it is.
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Regarding wear on your drysuit - I suspect Goretex is tougher than you think it is.
I guess I should be a little more specific: Goretex + Sand + Friction = guaranteed pinholes. This is a known in the paddling industry. Goretex suits come through the shop all the time with tons of pinholes in them; my own Goretex suit that’s only about 2 years old has roughly 30 pinhole patches (not an exaggeration) from the knee down. Goretex is a great fabric, don’t get me wrong, but in the realm of high-end drysuits, it’s the most prone to pinholes via the sand + friction deal.
All that said, I’m genuinely not wishing anyone ill on the suit + boundary boot combo. I’ve just seen it becoming a more and more common theme, and after a decade of working in the paddling industry my mind always goes straight to the, “what might go wrong.” I do hope it helps with your circulation/foot warmth. I have the same issue with my hands, it’s been a long battle..
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Interesting. I wonder how the durability of Goretex stacks up with Tropos from Kokatat. My 5 year old (? if memory serves) drysuit has definitely has a few patches (less than 10) and I have mostly been wearing mid-calf high boots made for flats wading over the feet. I dump out tons of sand every time I come back in from the ocean, and haven't noticed any excessive wear on the feet area. In fact, I'm not sure I have any patches on the feet - maybe one on an ankle. Most of my patches are from rockfish spines. I fish sandy launches 8-12x/yr.
Not arguing; I appreciate the information. It just doesn't match my experience. But then again I don't have a Goretex drysuit. Hopefully I get less sand inside the boot with a higher, sealed boot, I don't know.