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Kayak Fishing => Drillin' & Cuttin' => Topic started by: ZeeHawk on July 01, 2009, 11:16:03 AM

Title: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: ZeeHawk on July 01, 2009, 11:16:03 AM
by NWKA member INSAYN

I tried to utilize alot of the parts and pieces from the Granny Walker to keep the final product looking clean and not all hacked together.   I started by tearing it all down and then cutting an elbow from each handle.  
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/INSAYN_BCR/Fishing/Granny%20Walker/IMG_4863.jpg)

Using one of the adjustable legs from the Granny Walker, I am going to reinforce the lower tube with this outer tube. (http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/INSAYN_BCR/Fishing/Granny%20Walker/IMG_4866.jpg)

Then using a support bar from the Granny Walker, I reinforce this area even more by slipping a tube inside.   (http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/INSAYN_BCR/Fishing/Granny%20Walker/IMG_4874.jpg)

All three layers are then riveted together.
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/INSAYN_BCR/Fishing/Granny%20Walker/IMG_4876.jpg)

Being that my hand truck had these plastic wheels on the tires, I purchased a cheap set of steel Harbor Freight wheels/tires to put back on the hand truck.
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/INSAYN_BCR/Fishing/Granny%20Walker/IMG_4883.jpg)

The gray plastic caps hide the fact that I have just riveted 3 layers of Granny Walker tubing together to support the axle.    The axle itself it solid 5/8" steel rod.  This will eventually be replaced with stainless tube.  Not a priority at the moment.  
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/INSAYN_BCR/Fishing/Granny%20Walker/IMG_4885.jpg)

The blue foam is a $1.00 noodle from the Dollar Tree.  The wide black webbing is from some scraps that my aunt gave me several years ago.   I had the wifey sew loops into the webbing and was then riveted into place to keep it from sliding on the tube. And the yellow webbing is a set of Harbor Freight lash straps that I cut down and had the wife sew loops into as well.
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/INSAYN_BCR/Fishing/Granny%20Walker/IMG_4894.jpg)

The mesh bag (from my first Brunton headlamp) is to stow the bulk of the yellow strap in as well as the cotter pins in.  
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/INSAYN_BCR/Fishing/Granny%20Walker/IMG_4895.jpg)

I made it fit the bottom of the wife's Malibu Two XL, as I wanted to be able to piggy back my two kayaks.
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/INSAYN_BCR/Fishing/Granny%20Walker/IMG_4890.jpg)

After strapping the two naked kayaks together, I pulled them around the yard, down some stairs, off the curb, over some various rough surfaces and everything handles great!  Nothing slipped, bent, or even tipped over.  
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/INSAYN_BCR/Fishing/Granny%20Walker/IMG_4886.jpg)

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/INSAYN_BCR/Fishing/Granny%20Walker/IMG_4888.jpg)

The tires fit down under the sonar mount up against the scupper holes.
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/INSAYN_BCR/Fishing/Granny%20Walker/IMG_4896.jpg)

The tubes fit up along side the battery bag in the T13.
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/INSAYN_BCR/Fishing/Granny%20Walker/IMG_4897.jpg)

With it stowed away in the T13 front hatch you can barely see that it's in there.
(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/INSAYN_BCR/Fishing/Granny%20Walker/IMG_4898.jpg)
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: Yakky Doodle on June 03, 2010, 04:53:21 PM
Fantastic design and great way to recycle!
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: Ranger Dave on September 17, 2011, 12:41:22 AM
Nice Job.  ;D
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: kallitype on September 17, 2011, 07:35:43 AM
Ingenious, and elegant!  YOu're not in the Hobie??????
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: polepole on September 17, 2011, 07:52:11 AM
by NWKA member INSAYN

-Allen
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: Ranger Dave on September 20, 2011, 09:40:39 PM
They say, "Copy is the best form of flattery" As with many of your creations INSAYN, be flattered.
I picked up my Granny cart at Goodwill this past Saturday for $6.99 and my straps from Harbor Freight last night for $4.99. I've got a small collection of pool noodles for projects in various sizes and colors and I've got the same wheels you used from my Harbor Freight dolly, but they seem heavy. I also have (from another project that didn't happen), four of the inflatable dolly wheels and tires. They have the advantage of being wider so better in sand and boyant, but wheels are steel and tires being inflatable are prone to flats. I'm also looking at my lawn seed spreader and a 90 gallon yard debris bin in the back yard. Neither ever gets used and both have large plastic wheels....hmmmm?
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: C_Run on September 21, 2011, 04:51:56 AM
Eli Whitney!!! Dang!
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: firebunkers23 on September 21, 2011, 07:37:34 PM
I know that this is an old post but what do you do when you need your walker back? Just say-in. :dontknow:
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: INSAYN on September 21, 2011, 09:02:38 PM
No worries.  Granny walkers are cheap, buy two!  ;D
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: Ranger Dave on September 21, 2011, 09:21:10 PM
No worries.  Granny walkers are cheap, buy two!  ;D

No doubt, I almost did. The one I just bought was $6.99 and the nicer of the two they had. It was also twice as much as the other one was going for a whopping $3.99. If I understand the procedure and am right, one of the supports or uprights (either left or right) of the Granny Walker can be cut in half and both halves used for one cart sub- frame, leaving the other for another cart and or another project. Hit me back INSAYN, if you get a chance and let me know if that's right and thanks in advance....Dave
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: INSAYN on September 21, 2011, 09:37:49 PM
You need to capture as much material between the bends where you cut to give the cart enough lift.  By doing so, you will be left with 4 elbows, 2 that have long arms, and 2 with stubby arms.  Use the 2 with the long arms for your kayak cart.  The arms will be the vertical areas where the axles will go through.  Use the 2 shorter ones for some other project, not necessarily a kayak cart.
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: Ranger Dave on September 21, 2011, 09:43:30 PM
You need to capture as much material between the bends where you cut to give the cart enough lift.  By doing so, you will be left with 4 elbows, 2 that have long arms, and 2 with stubby arms.  Use the 2 with the long arms for your kayak cart.  The arms will be the vertical areas where the axles will go through.  Use the 2 shorter ones for some other project, not necessarily a kayak cart.

Thanks Bro...if you're still online, here's another dilema I could use some assist on.

http://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/index.php/topic,6879.0.html (http://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/index.php/topic,6879.0.html)
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: INSAYN on September 21, 2011, 09:46:06 PM
Ingenious, and elegant!  YOu're not in the Hobie??????


Got the Hobie well after I had been sporting these OK's, and the Revo even has a custom scupper cart, too!

Using Sched 80 PVC, 3/4" solid Aluminum axle, and some Wheeleez, it comes apart into 3 plastic pieces, the axle, the Wheeleez, and locking pins.   Everything but the Wheeleez fit inside a small camp chair bag and inside the rear hatch.  Or just strapped on back as seen here.

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/INSAYN_BCR/Kayak%20mods/Hobie%20flag%20mount/P5210079.jpg)

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/INSAYN_BCR/Kayak%20mods/Hobie%20flag%20mount/P5210078.jpg)

Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: Ranger Dave on September 21, 2011, 10:03:56 PM
I considered the scupper idea as I'm floating an OK Trident T-11, but there's enough controvery about stressing out the scuppers (maybe outdated and incorrect) that underneath seems safer ??? Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: firebunkers23 on September 22, 2011, 09:42:21 AM
Insayn I noticed a few things on your boat that I am courious about. First the red pole with the elastic cord that look like it is comming from the top of the pole to your top deck. Second the tie down for your rudder. What is the pole for and can you post a full shot of it? Did you install the rudder tie down or did your revo come that way, or is there another purpose for it?
Ingenious, and elegant!  YOu're not in the Hobie??????


Got the Hobie well after I had been sporting these OK's, and the Revo even has a custom scupper cart, too!

Using Sched 80 PVC, 3/4" solid Aluminum axle, and some Wheeleez, it comes apart into 3 plastic pieces, the axle, the Wheeleez, and locking pins.   Everything but the Wheeleez fit inside a small camp chair bag and inside the rear hatch.  Or just strapped on back as seen here.

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/INSAYN_BCR/Kayak%20mods/Hobie%20flag%20mount/P5210079.jpg)

(http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt128/INSAYN_BCR/Kayak%20mods/Hobie%20flag%20mount/P5210078.jpg)
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: [WR] on September 22, 2011, 06:15:19 PM
'bunkers,

 look here; http://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/index.php/topic,6864.0.html (http://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/index.php/topic,6864.0.html)

our resident master  fabricator made a recessed flag mount. i'm sure there's another thread with it ......
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: INSAYN on September 22, 2011, 08:17:38 PM
The rudder bungee is factory installed.  I just tied a loop in the end to help my cold wet hands grab the bungee easier.

The recessed flag holder works like a charm!  Low profile, and on the cheap.   :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: Ranger Dave on October 02, 2011, 11:51:24 PM
Following the lead of our very own insayn and living up to my promise to plagiarize his design, I built my Granny Walker kayak cart today. The only pictures I took were the initial pile of parts a Granny Walker turns into, for this and future projects. The "how to" was outlined nicely at the beginning of this thread and again, by insayn.

I think for the most part I did everything the same. I was fortunate enough to have almost everything prior to starting, so that kept the cost down. I have a dolly with plastic wheels, but it also has solid tires and that combination seemed too heavy. I had extra pnuematic wheels and tires from another project so despite the wheels being steel, chose to use them as I don't plan to be in the salt any time soon.

Other than that, a big thanks  :notworthy: to insayn for the idea. I haven't hooked it up to my Kayak yet, but hope to soon.
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: INSAYN on October 03, 2011, 10:02:43 AM
Wow!  That looks so dang close to mine, I'd almost think you stole it from my garage. 

Nice work!

You'll find that the strap closest to the wheels will be easy to tightened right away, as the front sticks will act like kickstands and be touching the ground when you first plop the kayak on the cart.  Then its just a matter of lacing the front strap together, and pulling moderately tight, and then just lift up on the front strap to pull the the front sticks to the hull.  Tighten it down as you do this.  It only takes a couple of lifts from the strap and tightening to get it cinched down nice and snug. 

Then proceed to beating the hell out of the cart by taking it over big bumps, curbs, down stairs, and over old people or small children.   >:D
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: Ranger Dave on October 03, 2011, 11:21:22 AM
Wow!  That looks so dang close to mine, I'd almost think you stole it from my garage. 

Nice work!


Thank you for the compliment and the advice on getting it installed. As for stealing it from your garage, all I can say is, if you go out to the garage, the refrigerator is almost out of beer again. :laughing7:
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: Mojo Jojo on June 15, 2014, 08:38:35 PM
It's been a few days since this thread was posted in, so can ANYONE that has one of these tell me how long you have been using it and what does your loaded boat weigh?
Title: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: Noah on June 15, 2014, 09:43:05 PM
Copper pipe makes a great building material. Not much heavier than PVC but super durable.
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: INSAYN on June 16, 2014, 05:06:00 AM
Copper is good building material, however a bit more pricy than just hacking up a $8 Goodwill granny walker.

Tubes are already bent as welll. 

JoJo, as for longevity....well I still have it but upgraded to Wheeleez a long time ago.  You can see in a few pics in the first page of my two kayaks stacked together on the cart.  They must be close to 120 lb's together.  I was able to jump it off the curb and go down stairs with it no problem. 

I moved to Wheeleez due to the fact they actually roll in soft sand better than HF wheels do.
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: Mojo Jojo on June 17, 2014, 09:30:15 PM
Ok how did I do?
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: INSAYN on June 18, 2014, 03:05:07 PM
Looks functional!  I still have mine up on a shelf in the garage in the event I ever need it.
I found that it wasn't the greatest in soft sand, so I eventually upgraded to a Wheeleez cart for my
Ocean Kayaks, and the Shed 40/Wheeleez scupper cart for my Hobie.

But the Granny Walker cart is one hell of a cart, that is pretty light as is, tough as hell and the best part....Super CHEAP to build.
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: Mojo Jojo on June 19, 2014, 09:46:09 PM
Looks functional!  I still have mine up on a shelf in the garage in the event I ever need it.
I found that it wasn't the greatest in soft sand, so I eventually upgraded to a Wheeleez cart for my
Ocean Kayaks, and the Shed 40/Wheeleez scupper cart for my Hobie.

But the Granny Walker cart is one hell of a cart, that is pretty light as is, tough as hell and the best part....Super CHEAP to build.
I'm considering buying the extra wide wheels and going to try to find a solid aluminum axle if it's strong enough to hold my boat.
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: Fishboy on July 24, 2015, 07:13:47 AM
May have to build this granny walker cart for the new Outback.
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: Fishboy on July 26, 2015, 04:47:42 PM
About 80 percent complete. I need to cut and sew the straps. Forward straps will go through the scupper holes. I am using PVC spacers. Will post pics when done.
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: Ranger Dave on July 26, 2015, 05:38:50 PM
I remember the Granny Walker being a fun project. Looking forward to pics of your completed cart.
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: Fishboy on August 23, 2015, 08:47:44 AM
Well, if anyone can mess up an idiot-proof project, I'm your huckleberry. I looked at my granny walker and thought, I'll cut the handles exactly in half so as to provide material for a second cart for some other yak angler.  I didn't carefully consider the matter of the resulting frame clearing the wheels. The cart still works, but I am forced to position it far enough back so that the wheels clear the edges of the kayak. Dunno if you can see the issue in the second photo.

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/BillOregon/IMG_2230_zpsmswwnwqb.jpg) (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/BillOregon/media/IMG_2230_zpsmswwnwqb.jpg.html)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/BillOregon/IMG_2231_zpsfnkicp6h.jpg) (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/BillOregon/media/IMG_2231_zpsfnkicp6h.jpg.html)

It does work, thank gosh:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/BillOregon/IMG_2232_zpssqqbmxjy.jpg) (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/BillOregon/media/IMG_2232_zpssqqbmxjy.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Granny Walker D.I.Y. kayak cart
Post by: Mojo Jojo on August 23, 2015, 09:19:33 AM
Don't feel bad I had to go to a c-tug as I found out with my yak loaded it was too heavy for the cart and the wheels rubbed the hull.