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Title: nwka noob! I need some advice.
Post by: snichols442 on July 30, 2014, 02:31:07 PM
I would like to give it a try this sunday north of Seattle. Any suggestions or good links for a first timer? Maybe rockfish? I have kayaked and fished before but never at the same time. :-)
Title: Re: nwka noob! I need some advice.
Post by: Ling Banger on July 30, 2014, 05:58:24 PM
Not my locale but good luck to you! Bottom fishing is a great first trip.  The more simple you can make it, beyond the basic stuff, the more fun you will have.
Title: Re: nwka noob! I need some advice.
Post by: DWB123 on July 30, 2014, 06:16:09 PM
fyi - i believe that most bottom fishing (including rockfish) is closed everywhere in the sound right now.
Title: Re: nwka noob! I need some advice.
Post by: micahgee on July 30, 2014, 06:27:30 PM
Welcome.

Flounder are open year round (in all of the Puget Sound except for MA 12 aka Hood Canal) and are generally easy to catch on small jigs, jigheads with swimbaits etc. Jigging off the bottom is all that is required, very simple.

A 1 oz jighead and a Gulp! grub is what we use with great success during Heroes on the Water events. Some folks like to use dropshot rigs as well. 

Good luck
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Post by: Mark Collett on July 30, 2014, 07:38:50 PM

   If this will be your very 1st time combining kayaks and fishing you might want to Keep It Simple Stupid .

   I don't say this to you personally snichols442. Just that you may consider whether you want to start out comfortable and catching fish you are familiar with (whatever that may be). or make it more challenging to yourself by going into a more foreign environment .You have to make that decision yourself.

   Some folks like to plunge into this stuff headfirst without "testing the water". All of us here promote safety above all else. "No fish is worth your life" kinda stuff. Hope you have your act together.

   Go out and have fun......... and always take pictures . We all love to share..... :o
Title: Re: nwka noob! I need some advice.
Post by: snichols442 on July 31, 2014, 06:30:39 AM
Thanks for the advice! I will keep you posted. I am from the east coast and rock fish was my usual target. I was not expecting a closure... Maybe I will find what is in season and go from there?
Title: Re: nwka noob! I need some advice.
Post by: Spot on July 31, 2014, 11:12:17 AM
Thanks for the advice! I will keep you posted. I am from the east coast and rock fish was my usual target. I was not expecting a closure... Maybe I will find what is in season and go from there?

Wahsington's fishing regulations are extremely complicated.  I suggest you find a lawyer who likes to kayak fish and take him/her with you.   :laugh:

-Spot-
Title: Re: nwka noob! I need some advice.
Post by: bsteves on July 31, 2014, 11:39:29 AM
Thanks for the advice! I will keep you posted. I am from the east coast and rock fish was my usual target. I was not expecting a closure... Maybe I will find what is in season and go from there?


Welcome to the site!

Any chance you're from Maryland or Virginia?   Rockfish out here on the West Coast might not be the same as the rockfish (a.k.a striped bass) you might be thinking of from the Chesapeake Bay area.  West Coast rockfish are actually a group of about 40 different species that come in a variety of colors.   There are some striped bass that have been introduced to the West Coast and they occasionally show up in places like the Columbia River.  The nearest place I know of that has any active fishery for them is the Umpqua River and nearby Coos River about 2/3 the way down the Oregon coast.

Striped Bass 
(http://www.nefsc.noaa.gov/sos/spsyn/af/sbass/images/fish.jpg)

Rockfish
(https://www.dfg.ca.gov/marine/nearshorefinfish/images/kelprockfish_photo.jpg)
(http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2010/images/cek_050306_014.jpg)

Our saltwater fishing tends to focus on two main groups... bottom fish (rockfish, lingcod, cabezon, halibut, flounder) and salmon (Chinook, coho, sockeye, chum, pink, steelhead). 

Oh, and like Spot said.. good luck with those Washington fishing regulations.

Brian
Title: Re: nwka noob! I need some advice.
Post by: snichols442 on July 31, 2014, 12:59:45 PM
No I am from Ma. Tautog and scup was always easy pickings from rock formations. I will see if I can find some pictures.
Title: Re: nwka noob! I need some advice.
Post by: YakBum on July 31, 2014, 01:00:25 PM
yea man, switching from east coast to west coast is a whole other ball game, forget almost everything you know, or think you know about fishing, latch on to some people who have got it down and absorb every bit of info they give you.  it will not be easy, its worse than starting at zero, and will be frustrating, but with time and A LOT of patience, you will get it.  be glad there is a community like NWKA with members who are more than willing to share what they know with you and fairly often where to go to do it. 
Title: Re: nwka noob! I need some advice.
Post by: snichols442 on July 31, 2014, 01:04:18 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/01/eragy8es.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/01/azuqy9at.jpg)
Title: Re: nwka noob! I need some advice.
Post by: snichols442 on July 31, 2014, 01:06:45 PM
Btw never had much luck trolling for blues or stripers back east. Thought i could do some surf casting out here. That does not seem to even exist?
Title: Re: nwka noob! I need some advice.
Post by: bsteves on July 31, 2014, 01:39:24 PM
Thanks for the photos.   I lived on Long Island for grad school and caught tautog a few times.   Live green crabs always worked well for me.   I also did well kayak fishing for stripers and bluefish back in the mid-90's.   I trolled mostly plastic stickbaits like slugg-Os along the surface when the menhadded "bunker" where in (usually July).   In fact, I started kayak fishing using a friend's sea kayak because I couldn't quite cast far enough out to the striped bass and bluefish busting bait on the surface near my house. 

I also spent time in Maryland and got confused by everyone calling stripers "Rockfish". 

Surf casting does exist on the West Coast but mostly for surfperch and some people manage to get rockfish from jetties and rocky headlands using surf casting techniques.

Brian
Title: Re: nwka noob! I need some advice.
Post by: snichols442 on July 31, 2014, 02:14:51 PM
So if i wanted to troll for something in the sound this weekend what should I do?
Title: Re: nwka noob! I need some advice.
Post by: micahgee on July 31, 2014, 02:23:11 PM
So if i wanted to troll for something in the sound this weekend what should I do?

If you haven't already, take a look at the fishing regulations for the area you will be fishing. Yes its a bit confusing, feel free to ask if anything is unclear.

http://wdfw.wa.gov/publications/01590/wdfw01590.pdf

Considering you never have kayak-fished before, I would reccomend jigging for flounder (no minimum size and you can keep 15) as a first saltwater fishing trip...its productive and simple, see my previous post.
Title: Re: nwka noob! I need some advice.
Post by: snichols442 on July 31, 2014, 03:44:32 PM
Thanks again!
Title: Re: nwka noob! I need some advice.
Post by: YakBum on July 31, 2014, 05:44:53 PM
start small with trolling too, go to your local lake and troll for trout.  you can find what works best for you and adjust your set up when the stakes are low and the fish come fairly easy, build up your confidence before you take on the bear of salmon trolling.
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Post by: JamesC on July 31, 2014, 09:19:25 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/01/eragy8es.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/01/azuqy9at.jpg)
What fish is the bottom one? Do they taste good?
Title: Re: nwka noob! I need some advice.
Post by: snichols442 on July 31, 2014, 10:33:42 PM
They both bottom caught fish. Sea worms for scup, green crabs for tautog for bait mostly. Sometimes catch two scup at once on a good day, then its a good fight! Both are tasty, tautog is better imho. Its a rockfish. Scup school so when you hit them you get a lot. :-).
Title: Re: nwka noob! I need some advice.
Post by: snichols442 on July 31, 2014, 10:35:58 PM
On that note how is flounder? I am not sure I have ever eaten one.....
Title: Re: nwka noob! I need some advice.
Post by: Freeze on August 01, 2014, 08:16:59 AM
Snichols442 - did you ever decide where you are going.  I have never kayaked yet but have 2 new ones sitting in my garage.  Will try them out this Saturday maybe Friday evening too.  Plan is Birch Bay.  Going to drop a few crab pots and drop lines in the water.  I see in the regs salmon is open.  Never fished for salmon before and it may be the wrong time of the year but I'll try.  Need to start somehere.  I signed up for the salmon classic so need practice.  That's where I'll be with the wife who is also newbie at this.  In the past we did crabbing in an infaltable up there.  Crabbing is usually good.   
Title: Re: nwka noob! I need some advice.
Post by: snichols442 on August 01, 2014, 09:00:31 AM
Cool. What kind of crabs do you get? A cage trap or one of those fold flat ones? Sun will be the day for me but I have not decide where yet. I will google Birch bay.
Title: Re: nwka noob! I need some advice.
Post by: Freeze on August 01, 2014, 10:09:57 AM
Dungeness and rock.  Rock is not the goal but their ok.  I live in Burien but were going to be up there for something else.  Hope to get a spot for the trailer at Birch Bay State Park tonight if not we will be at the general parking bright and early in the morning.  Maybe stay over night at Bellingham Walmart or any place we can find
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Post by: RoxnDox on August 01, 2014, 11:26:32 AM
Cool. What kind of crabs do you get? A cage trap or one of those fold flat ones? Sun will be the day for me but I have not decide where yet. I will google Birch bay.

Birch Bay is almost up to the Canadian border.  Another 3-4 hrs past Seattle depending on traffic, could be more.  Something to consider too, this is Seafair in Seattle, and they have a lot of road closures off and on for the airshows and construction, so traffic will be more insane than usual.

Jim
Title: Re: nwka noob! I need some advice.
Post by: snichols442 on August 01, 2014, 11:54:17 AM
Yeah 2 hours for me. Lummi is closer. That is reservation land dies that change anything? ( I wonder)
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Post by: Freeze on August 01, 2014, 11:56:55 AM
yeap, been there a few times. Guess we will drive late to aviod the traffic.  I can come back late Sat have a run with my West Seattle running group Sunday morning.  Expensive trip (gas) for one day but I spent a lot off money these last two weeks need to get the revolutions in the water.  Plus, my wife has a friend up there that will visit her.

Thinking about the flounder, looks easier than salmon - on youtube
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Post by: mcdc1369 on August 01, 2014, 10:36:08 PM
I'm thinking on going to saltwater state park to launch and practice some salmon fishing as I am new to salt water fishing I have dine some flounder and ling cod this year so now it's time for salmon