NorthWest Kayak Anglers
Kayak Fishing => Events => Topic started by: polepole on May 17, 2006, 11:20:42 AM
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OK guys, I'm sending out lots of feelers and doing a lot of homewok to try to make this happen.
But I need some real feedback from you on scheduling, locale, and participation.
So I was looking at the last weekend in July or the first weekend in August. Preferences? I'm not opposed to other times, but I happen to know I have these weekends free.
Location is going to be tough. We have members from Southern Oregon on up to BC and east to "somewhere over there". I don't think we can choose a location that could satisfy all. So some hard calls will have to be made. Even if we chose somewhere in the middle, it will still be 8 hours from you guys on the endpoints. How far are you willing to drive to make a derby on one of these weekends?
Now ... to make it worth anyone's time, we'll need some participation. And I'm not talking about 6 or 7 guys here. If that's all that could make it we might as well call it a "camping weekend" and not go through all the hassles. So realistically we have 18 people registered here (although we shuoldn't count Mooch and Bill from NCKA) and probably 6-7 people I see visiting but are not registered yet, which is pretty good considering we just started up. If we get half of that to participate, that's looking at it optimistically. So we're a bit on the lean side. I really want to make this happen, but we need to get our numbers up for it to be a reality. I'm open to suggestions on how to do this. A later date for the derby might give us more time ...
So ... thoughts?
-Allen
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I'd be honored to be the first to tell you that "I am THERE for you, man!" Those two weekends will work very well for me if we stay close to Seattle area (2.5 day trip) and not as well but still probably do-able for further away. I can always have enough saltwater gear for myself and one guest, either of my own doing or someone elses guest if someone else will speak up before I get a guest of my own invited. I don't have a target guest at this time, so feel free to step up and beat me to it guys.
Location? ??? Hmmmm? ??? I'd say if you want the excitement level of a lot of hollering "Fish ON!!" then you'll either need to head to coastal waters or maybe the fresh water fishing can be that hot too, I don't know. I don't want to advance a particular preference but if you can somehow change those dates to Aug. 26-27 and set the location to Tofino B.C., we already have a ground swell telling us that they're committed to be there. Even Joey Kayak from KFS has been flirting with the idea. If you're saying that you'd need at least 12 people to commit before you can declare a derby, I'll bet that we can show 6 within a week from now. I know that it's way off in a far corner of our territory, but I figure that this thing will move a lot from year to year any way.
Absolutely just suggestions though. Like I said, 99.8% sure... I'm THERE for you, man! ;D
Fishin-T
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Arrgh ... I just thought of more bureaucratic stuff. A derby outside of WA may be hard for me to throw together, and hosting one internationally might be even harder. If it's all right with y'all ... I'll try this first derby somewhere in WA. I hope that's not a problem.
-Allen
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That's not one bit a problem for me, Polepole. :) I was just trying to get this thing jump started with a few anglers who'd already agreed to be some place on a given weekend.
Hey, if I can reach our agreed upon destination by bedtime after a full Friday at work, then I'm totally 100% all in! Barring accidental death and stuff, anyway. If I have to leave early from work on a Friday to get there, then I'm about 99.6% all in. If this thing doesn't get to full take-off speed (not enough participants) and we have to settle for just another great camping weekend... same percentages as above. And as indicated in my previous post, I'll always try to bring a guest out with us to show them what this bizarre sport is really like. That's not easy to make happen every time though. They all seem to know, down at work, that we NWKA's are all crazy folks. ::)
Fishin-T
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I hear ya Allen, I think that is a great idea. I would love to make it over to the coast, my biggest problem is, in case you all didn't know I am a stay at home dad. That means I AM at home with my kids. My wife can take off at the drop of a hat to do her job. (USDA) plus also only having one income at this point makes it really hard to afford gas to even come down out of the canyon. ( I am 12 miles out of Cashmere in the mountains, between cashmere and Entiat) We really are living pay check to pay check. All done for the sake of my kids.
So my suggestion would be salmon on the Columbia here out of Wenatchee. The season here as of now will run from July 1st to Oct 15th. Now I don't know what conditions will be like on the river at that time, it depends on how much water they are letting over the dams then. I know that the wenatchee river was completly breached today headed for flood stage because of the hot weather. Looked like coffe, and running fast. My thought would be to camp at confluence state park,(or you are welcome to pitch a tent in my pasture, I am 17 miles from wenatchee) and fish at the mouth of the wenatchee targeting the fish headed for icicle. That is another thought too, do a drift down the icicle in pairs and fish for salmon. Careful not to cross the 500' buffer to native water. Something else I have not tried but would like to, with someone of course.
Talked to a member of my parish today who is a fish biologist with DOI a the levenworth hatchery. Told him about yak fishing and told him I would like to get him started. If I had someone here banging on my door to go fishing I might sacrifice a little more time.(not much left to give, but I will try) he sounded intrested. We will wait and see. Wenatchee is only 2.5 hours from Seattle, via 97. Just my ramblings.
Besides having fun, if people saw us out there fishing and, hopefully catching, that could be a big turn on here for yak fishing. And at the end of the weekend if we did good we could all go over to Hooked On Toys and do a feww pictures and hang them on their board there. The do sell fishing yaks (old town) but hey you got to start some where. maybe I could open a kayak angler shop and take my kids to work. ::) ;D
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From far south,
I have never been to Wa. state as far as I know.
Some friends just moved to Port Townsend, othe rthan that ya'll are all I know about the state!
Don't mind a drive if it's not snow or ice, more than 8 hours is a long way for a day of fun, so it better be a few days to make it worth it.
If I make it I'll have a friend as well if I can get him away from the house for a bit!
I'm not too big on social gatherings but if its all informal I can handle it.
Now I'm getting anxious to do it!!
Plenty of time to get this together, don't rush or fuss, and it will fall in place for us.
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Boxofrain,
Several days to make it worth while.... yeah, that's a good idea! Remember that just because most of the rest of us can't stay on, that doesn't mean that the fishing is closed. If Polepole pulls the trigger and says that this one is a go, I'd highly recommend pulling out all stops to get there. You'll be able to brag for the rest of your life that "I was there" at the ground floor of kayak fishing in the N.W.
These things are always way WAY informal and when south Oregon sends a contigent this direction, it kind of obliges NWKA to hold one of these down your way one day in the future. Personally, I'd dearly love to make that trip if I just knew where I should fish down there.
Fishin-T
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Sounds good!
If someone could give me a clue about the regs for a temporary license in Wa. state so I can plan and let my buddy know as well, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks
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Here's the licenses and rates ... https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wdfw/licenses_fees.html
For instance, non-resident 2 day is $20.
So boxofrain, this is a long haul for you. Brookings to Portland is like 7-8 hours right, and add on any travel time in WA. I think Fishin-T has the right attitude ... take a few days and enjoy a vacation. Having been to a number of kayaking events, I can tell you that the kayak fishing crowd is super laid back and informal. I don't know what it is about people that kayak fish, but I've enjoyed spending time with everyone I've met. BTW, does either of those weekends work out better for you?
-Allen
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On the Columbia- By end of July/ early Aug., what's happening at the dams is more a time of the day story. Up here, they cut flows out of Wells Dam, in the evening. Time varies with load/demand. How that affects the fishing affects where we fish. Generally, fishing in the morning is best up in the pool, in the slackwater. Afternoons and evenings are best down below the dam, when they're running lots of water through the generators.
Of course I'm talking abouit an area 50 miles north oif Wenatchee, and things might be completely different down there. ::)
One thing that remains the same, everywhere, is that kings bite best in lowlight conditions.
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You know Bill I think that its the same down here on Rocky Reach and Rock Island. An early morning gig is always good. Just that there is lots of places to launch from in Walla walla point park. just down from the state park. With out having to bug the boaters.
I am not that familiar with the other dams, hell I am not even familiar with these. But I will try.
Bill would you want to hit icicle in a tandom with me, I will Paddle and you can fish, then we can switch off when you get one landed. I have never done it, but I am willing to try it.
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Some day I'd like to float the Icicle and fish, but I don't know when. My wife and I take turns being primary wage earner, and right now I'm "it". And when I'm not working, she's looking for a break from kid duty.
When we do float it, it better not be in the trees, the way it's been this week. :o I'd also like to do a scouting float first, to find the trouble spots early. My row boat might be a better option, too.
BTW, I've been wondering about doing a Dads and kids camping trip this summer (wives welcome, but not required). Would you be interested? It's been years since I've been to places like Curlew Lake and NE Washington. Curlew interests me for the fish, because it's supposed to be rarely crowded, (good for weekend getaways) and for other things to do (there's a location in Republic for searching for fossils, etc.).
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Hey Allen I'm in just set the date and I'll use some of my PTO from work, just have to keep it under four days. I'll see if Westmarine will pony up a few prizes? If any of you other guys have any questions drop me a line.
Charles 8)
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Hey Allen any word on the dates yet? I have some freinds flying in 20th to 24th of July and was wondering if we were aiming for July 28th to 30th or the first week in August?
Take care?
Charlie 8)
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I think you're OK Charles. I was thinking July 29-30 or Aug 5-6. I've only had feedback from one person that the July date would be better. So I'm slightly leaning that way.
I need to set dates and place shortly. Lot's of people showing interest, but hard for people to commit without a date and a place. Sit tight a couple more days as I have been talking to some potential sponsors and the outcome of that could cause a decision to be made. ;)
-Allen
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Hey Allen, the first weekend of August works fine for me as I get a "FLEX DAY" ;D every 2 weeks (basically I work an extra 47minutes a day for two weeks and I get a Friday off with pay ;D :D :P cool huh? So for that weekend, I get Friday-Monday as it's a Civic Holiday here in "Canadiana".
Floatin Cowboys, I feel your pain as I'm in the same rut. I work and my wife stays at home to look after my 2 boys and yes, they're all dependent on my income. I work as clerical in the office, so you can probably figure out how much I make....less than 37G a year! Peanuts really...gas here is pretty expensive too. Right now, it cost us $1.20 per litre in case you are trying to figure out the conversion (1Gallon = 4.546Litres). $5.46 per gallon, how much does it cost where you live?
VP
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Alright folks, assuming the NWKA Derby will be held in July 29-30 in WA is a go...the weekend of August 25 & 26 in Tofino - Long Beach on Vancouver Island is still open as I've already book my holidays and cannot change it. If anyone is vacationing or are still interested in coming, you're more than welcome to join Snag-A-But and I for some kayak fishing. This is NOT, I repeat not a derby/contest. It will be strictly R&R weekend of camping, some fishing and just soaking in the sun.
If any of you folks have kids, great, there's plenty of sand for the kids to build sand castle...I'm also taking my family for that week. If you need information on how to get here, I'm sure you can contact Snag-a-but and I, email us privately. Thanks
Hope to meet some of you on this forum! ::)
VP,
Here are some interesting link: http://www.tourismtofino.com/_lnkStore/tofino/csp/tofino.dll?page=home
An aerial view of Pacific Rim National Park - Long Beach (Tofino), paradise for the KayakAnglers: http://vancouverisland.com/photogallery/
Don't forget to click on the "FISHING" TAB at the top of the page to see what kind of fishes you can catch...tee-hee :D
http://www.vancouverisland.com/parks/?id=404
http://www.pc.gc.ca/pn-np/bc/pacificrim/visit/tarifs_fees_E.asp?park=21
http://www.longbeachmaps.com/
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SAVE THE DATE!
July 29-30 at Snow Creek Resort (www.snowcreekwa.com) at Neah Bay, WA. I just got the word that they've agreed to host us. Derby to be held on Sunday July 30, with pre-fishing and a clinic/seminar for newbies to be held on Saturday July 29. Target species will be lingcod and rockfish. I'd like to figure out a family event to be held Saturday afternoon/evening. Hopefully this will help everyone's WAF. I'm open to ideas on this one.
I'll make a more formal announcement once I get more details worked out with insurance and sponsors.
-Allen
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VP,
I feel ya bro, ouch on the gas. My wife is getting ready to start a flex schedule for the summer and get every other friday off. Victoria sounds sweet, I will get there someday to your part and check it out.
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Hey there cowboy! I'm sure your wife will enjoy her new day off. I know I do. Specially when there's a holiday right after it, then it becomes a 4 sometimes 5 day long weekend! ;)
When you are able to save up and get to VI, look us up, SAB and I will be more than happy to give you the tour of our town, or should I say take you to our favourite fishing hole...heh,heh,heh.
VP
ps. I just heard on the radio this summer the gas price is going up by 10 cents. That'll be $1.30/litre. Last summer, it hit $1.28 so I wouldn't be surprise if it goes higher. The reason? They say the US & mexico is going to have more hurricane coming which effects the production of oil. Oh, boy...here we go again. But I guess that's the price we pay for living in paradise eh?! :o
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VP,
$5.46 per Gal, WOW!! :o
But wait a minute... that's in Canadian dollars, right?
So with the exchange rate, that would be like... um... about $2.30 U.S. I figure. Hey, not bad. ;)
Fishin-T
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Hi Fishin-T, nice try....how on earth did you get $2.30/gallon? Ok this is how I calculate for the gas price if it goes up to $1.30/L
1Gallon = 4.546L
4.546L X $1.30 = $5.2098Cdn per Gallon divide by 1.10805 (current US xchange) = $4.75698US per Gallon!!! Ouch :-\
Still think it's cheap now Fishin-T? $4.76US/Gallon that's double the price that you thought you pay bro.
VP
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VP,
Nah, I just pulled that number out of thin air. ;D Did you notice the little winking guy? That was your clue that I'm just pulling your leg a little. A little U.S./Canadian exchange rate humor. Okay, I guess that one fell flat... :-[ I can't help myself, I'm a little bit ornery like that. But I promise, I certainly don't intend to offend, so please be sure not to take it like an offense, just horsing around.
Fishin-T
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:-* Ahh, you got me Fishin-T,...I fell for that one. Didn't notice the wink...you know what it's like being a newbie and all. I'll have to be on my toes next time. ;D
VP
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V.P.,
You're absolutely right about that price though. OUCH!! Yeah, we pay more like about $3.20 US or $3.75 Can over here. I'll top off my tank before I come to the island this summer.
Hey, speaking of which, Snag tells me that you might be able to make it up to Moutcha Bay in Sep. Excellent! I've been reading your posts for a while now (I probably should have posted a welcome for you by now instead of poking fun at your gas prices) and it sounds like you'll be a lot of fun around the campfire! We all seem to have just a great time when we get together for these things. I'll be bringing my brother over to V.I. in July for Harry's big blowout (that's Snag's friend) on Sombrio beach. I absolutely recommend that you come out for at least some portion of that one. The fishing is "can't miss" if you don't mind ling cod and rockfish, and I don't mind at all myself.
Oh, and hey, welcome to the forum, V.P. It's a good bunch of guys, getting bigger every week, you'll like it here.
Fishin-T
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Hey thanks Fishin-T! :P :) It's about time I get the welcome wagon, I was beginning to think you guys were the "old boys club"
Anyhow, better late then never. ;D
Yeah, the gas prices in Canada are usually higher then the US. I don't know if you notice, but when you get near the border, you'll notice alot of Cdn folks line up their cars to fill up gas tank.
Snag is correct, I'll definitely look forward to coming out to Moutcha Bay. I haven't caught a salmon yet, just some misses. Most of the time it's Lingcod, rockcod, Cabezon, Black Bass, SuperPerch (these are really beautiful, colourful too) and offcourse Greenlings aka. cod fishes. I love the way these fishes fight when they're hooked because they fight hard, not like the trout I've caught last week, too weak.
I found that a 20lb line wasn't enough, a couple times something big hit it, I set the hook and start reeling and all of a sudden...Twang, the line broke. So when I talk to some other fishermen, they tell me, naah, you need at least 35-40lb line because these fishes out here are big and they are very strong. So I went out and bought the "Spider" line, since last year, this sucker has not fail me yet. Even when I snagged seaweed, holy cow, I pull it in and the line hasn't even broke!
I look forward meeting some of you guys. Hope we have a good turn out at Moutcha, if not, it'll still be nice just to come out.
VP
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Just got the word ...
Ocean Kayak is offering a brand new PROWLER BIG GAME as the grand prize for the derby!!! ;D ;D ;D
-Allen
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WoW :o
What the heck is a Prowler Big Game Allen. That's a great first prize!
Gary
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Just got the word ...
Ocean Kayak is offering a brand new PROWLER BIG GAME as the grand prize for the derby!!!
Sweet, sweet, sweet. I look forward to taking it home! ;)
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Gary, see http://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/bb/index.php?topic=47.0 for info on the Big Game.
Bill, B-R-I-N-G I-T O-N!!! Hey, who let the row boater into our playground? ::) Yes, the derby will be open all paddle powered vessels.
Here's a taste of Snow Creek. Fishin-T and I stopped by there this morning. I'll post a full report under the Sekiu thread in a little bit.
-Allen
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Nice fishes Allen! The one you have in your hand looks like a Greenling (Cod), but I can't make out the rest of the ones lying next to your Prowler. Are they black bass?
VP
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Nice fishes Allen! The one you have in your hand looks like a Greenling (Cod), but I can't make out the rest of the ones lying next to your Prowler. Are they black bass?
VP
Hah! That one is a 29" ling! I'm a big guy, so I tend to make fish look small. ;D The rest are black rockfish and the one in front is 26" Fishin-T's ling.
-Allen
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:D Way-ta Go Allen, you too Fishin-T!
You're right, the fish does look small when you're holding it. Sorry dude. I love fishin for Lingcod, they're exciting once hooked. One time I hook a Blue Lingcod, it was the first time I'd seen anything so beautiful. Had silver body and blue poka-dots. I let it go thinking it was undersize, ...to my surprise later on...ahh well... :P
VP
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So I forgot to mention that Snow Creek has a nice little "alcove" area of 5-6 sites across a bridge over the creek. It is kind of hidden from the rest of the resort, yet it's right there. I'm going to reserve these spots sometime soon. Let me know if you want me to hold one for you. Here's a pic from their website. The end lot from where the picture was taken is right next to the water. Fishin-T has already spoken for that one. I think we can share this area amoungst quite a few people Tom, what do you think?
(http://www.snowcreekwa.com/facility/tentsoncreek04-13-06-1-b.jpg)
They also have cabins for rent.
(http://www.snowcreekwa.com/facility/cabins04-13-06-1-b.jpg)
The cabins are set up with 4 bunks and either a double bed or 2 more bunks. They were fairly clean and basic ... you need to supply your own bedding and other necessities.
-Allen
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Posted by: polepole
So I forgot to mention that Snow Creek has a nice little "alcove" area of 5-6 sites across a bridge over the creek. It is kind of hidden from the rest of the resort, yet it's right there. I'm going to reserve these spots sometime soon. Let me know if you want me to hold one for you. Here's a pic from their website. The end lot from where the picture was taken is right next to the water. Fishin-T has already spoken for that one. I think we can share this area amoungst quite a few people Tom, what do you think?
Been meaning to ask about that, whether we needed to reserve individually, or as a group. In any case, the short version of our family will be there. (That's Kristi, Janni and I.) We're thinking of leaving the Methow fairly early on Friday to arrive that evening. Wouldn't mind sticking a salmon (or two) on Saturday, and get the the gals out on the water.
Bill, B-R-I-N-G I-T O-N!!! Hey, who let the row boater into our playground? Roll Eyes Yes, the derby will be open all paddle powered vessels.
As far as I can see, the only set rules, so far, are that we are fishing for Lings and rockfish, on Sunday, between 6:00am and noon. Probably a good idea to settle them before we start fishing! What's going to be the criterion for winning? ??? Heaviest stringer? :o Best single fish? :-* Greatest variety? ::)
BTW, isn't there usually a restriction on individuals from the sponsoring organization being eligible for the prize?! ;) :P
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V.P.,
Yeah, those were some decent lings and we hooked them in no time. I came geared up for halibut and so I could switch to the lings easily enough, but my pole was mighty heavy for working with the black rockfish. Allen caugth all 8 that you see and I guess he slipped me a couple of them for loaning him my yak for the pictures. That was the NICEST collection of black bass that I've seen so far in the N.W., although there was a 7.5# reported in the derby over in Sekiu (roughly 10 mi. east from Snow Creek). The ones in the picture, I'd estimate were from as little as 2# to maybe 4+#. And to put my estimation into perspective, I'd estimate that the blacks that we caught at Sombrio in Sep of 2005 (ask Snag) were from 1.5# to about 3.0#. I find that I typically estimate a little too small, out of modesty no doubt. ;) Seriously, these were as large on average as I've ever personally seen, and you get to keep 10 a day and have 20 total in your posession.
That strip of lawn that you see in the picture is bordered by Snow Creek (tiny, but absolutely beautiful) on the left of the picture and a very steep tree covered bluff on the other side. Those sites are secluded from the rest of the park which is just across the foot bridge, but there is no distict boundary between any of these half dozen sites. It doesn't look it at all in the picture above, but it's about 50 yards long (45.92 meters to you, V.P.) from the far end out to the camera. It'll make a really good shared area. I only picked the last one closest to the beach to help you guys out... it should help to muffle the snoring that Polepole claims I do. ::) All that I know is that I sure didn't hear anything! :D
The launching will be as easy as I've ever seen, depending on the surf of course. Even with a pretty good morning breeze, the surf was under 6 inches tall. The launch area is a small sandy beach. ALL of those fish in the picture were caught in about 3 to 4 hours, from 1/2 to 1.0 miles STRAIGHT out from the launch, near the edge of the thick kelp bed. I have to imagine that there are plenty of much larger lings if a larger bait was to be used, although the ones that were caught were spitting up little 2 inch candlefish.
Fishin-T
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Wow, absolutely beautiful photos Allen, nice explanation too Fishin-T! :o 8)
Man, it sounds like you guys had a blast. Makes me wanna cry each time I see the photos and me thinking about when I'm gonna get that SP. I think I'll be paddling every day for the first 3 months...and then as the novelty wears off, I'll slow it down to 3...you get the drift.
Interesting that the fishes in Sombrio are smaller. I wonder if it has anything to do with the colder climates up here? And those campgrounds look really clean and green. Reminds me of the many occasion I used to visit the states. I remember on many occasion camping at the various parks and including some "rest area", one particular site really stood out in my mind and that was when we had just enter California, there was this river that ran through the area and it was so beautiful...very natural and had nice washroom facilities...which is more than what I can say for our Canadians counterpart.
The majority of the places here are stinking potable/pit toilet (I repeat, not flushable) makes me cringe everytime I think about it
I think I travel there when I was a teen more then I did in Canada. Drove down to Oregon Coast, California at least a dozen times. The farthest I went was Tijuana, but that was a tourist trap.
Anyways, thanks for sharing with us your trip and photos.
PS. Are you back yet old "Snag", did you catch anything? Would you like to share with us the rest of yer fishing trip, minus all that rain on the weekend... 8) ;)
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So VP, are you going to come join us at the derby? It's just a hop (on the Coho Ferry), skip, and a jump down the road to Neah Bay.
-Allen
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Working on the rules ... got a lot of balls in the air right now and hoping to get into a rhythm in juggling them. I'm hoping to have a promo flyer and official rules out within a week.
Here's an overview of what I have been thinking.
- $20 dollar entry fee if you pre-register before July 29th. $25 entry fee the weekend of the derby
- This derby is open to lings, rockfish, and cabezon.
- The derby is open to all eligible fish caught from paddle powered craft.
- You must hook and land your own fish.
- The derby starts with a 6AM launch.
- Weighin at noon. This gives us time to pack up and leave at a reasonable hour.
- There will be TBD prizes for heaviest ling, heaviest rockfish, and heaviest cabezon.
- Heaviest fish of the above categories wins the Ocean Kayak Big Game Kayak grand prize.
- A tie shall be broken by length. A further tie shall be broken by a coin flip.
- All categories that don't have a qualifying fish shall be awarded to the next heaviest fish.
- Employees of sponsoring organizations cannot win prizes from their respective organizations. The judge will make all rulings regarding prizes. I am the judge, unless someone else steps forward. ;D The judge is not eligible for prizes >:(
- All judge's decisions are final.
You get the picture. Of course all other "standard" rules like following the Washington DFW rules apply.
I'd also like to have an optional raffle with proceeds being donated to a TBD chosen organization on behalf of NWKA. $5 per raffle entry and you can buy multiple entry tickets. I'd like to solicit a raffle organizer to take care of this portion. Any volunteers? The raffle organizer shall propose some possible organizations to donate to and will run the drawing. We shall have a poll to select the final organization. The raffle organizer is eligible for derby participation subject to the above rules.
Thoughts?
-Allen
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Those rules would work for me.
If you need any help with the promo work, let me know. (BTW, do you have any cards w/ the site listed?) I imagine you are doing a lot of juggling.
RE: a raffle- I would be willing to help with that. Not sure about a beneficiary- maybe PSA? (Puget Sound Anglers, they're about as politically involved in this statew as any group I've heard of.) Be nice if it were an organization that recognized us, though if we start providing funds, they'll all recognize us quickly!
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Holy Quacamole' !! :o If Allen is not allowed to play, then I'm ALL IN. Now I REALLY like my odds. ;D
Thoughts on rules... okay, I'd like to see a statement that spells out whether live bait will or will not be allowed. And I'd suggest in the name of angler fellowship and comradere that the statement about a very unlikely tie finish go something like this: "blah, blah, blah, ...will be decided by a coin flip unless the tied contestants can agree to an equitable split."
Fishin-T
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Equitable split? I can see it now ... Fishin-T wins the front half of a Big Game. Pisco Sicko wins the back half!!! ;D
Live bait is legal under WDFW regulations.
Thanks Pisco, for volunteering. I was going to volunteer you, but I figured you would anyway. ::) PSA sounds like a good possibility. RFA is another possibility although I don't see them as active up here as I do in NorCal. Please do post in the political section on any orgs you are thinking about. It will help educate us all.
I'm going to rough out some cards by the weekend. Nothing too professional until I have the time, but they'll at least have the logo and the site address. I'll make up a bunch of extras and get them to whoever wants a few.
-Allen
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Polepole,
I was thinking in terms of using cash to facilitate a split, should it apply to me. If Pisco and myself were tied for that Big G, then I'd try to negotiate a dollar amount that I'd be willing to either pay or accept for the remaining half of the boat. Turns out that Mr. Sicko and I can't come to an aggreement, now we go to that coin flip rather than fisticuffs.
Speaking of cash etc., I think it's likely that the winner is responsible for what the IRS will surely consider to be income. >:( Does that sound about right? I'd be pretty sure that Ocean Kayak will write it off and said winner has just won a certain amount of income.
Fishin-T
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Mr. Tom, the simple way to handle the tax liability issue is to allow me to assume it. ;) No prize, no tax. ;D
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Is a special license needed for this event. I mean is snow creek area in the Reservation boundrys. I know that may sound like a dumb question but it would help those that have never been there before.
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I believe Snow Creek is outside the Makah Nation.
-Allen
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Yes, Snow Creek is just outside the rez.
BTW, while a lot of people are pretty darned pissed at the Makahs for how they conducted themselves in their winter salmon fishery, last year (just ~20,000 over their estimate of a 1000+ catch. :o), they've got a hell of a museum in town. One of their villages (at Capa Alava) was buried in a landslide some 500 years ago. The site was found in the '70s and excavated by WSU researchers and the Makahs. The museum provides a great window on another time, and I always dig that sort of thing.
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That kind of stuff intrest me as well. I also like the geological stuff. You should see some of the stuff I dug up while exploring oun canyon, and I don't mean the old chevy's. Found some really cool rock, like thundereggs, with formations in them. The rains washed them out of the side of the hills. pretty neat.
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Heyyyy Allen, thanks for the invitation :) I think I will respectfully bow out of this tournament thank you. Partly because I am surviving on a single income :'( (my wife isn't working at the moment) but perhaps next year will look a bit brighter, hopeully and then I can travel out of state. Hey when does that US Passport rule starts? I hear border crossing is getting tighter now. Did you guys here about the 17 people they arrested a few days ago in Ontario? Yeah, pretty scary stuff, those guys wanted to take out the Prime Minister - ahem, ahem, like chop off his head and blow up the parliament building...anyways, off topics here forget I said that...not fishing related.
I like to get my feet wet, and get some experience in kayak fishing. BTW, been sick for the last 2 days...feeling rather crappy.
Today really cheered me up because, because, because.........YIPPEEE....MY SPTW IS HERE!!!!! YAHHHHOOOO! I took it out for a spin on a nearby lake, haven't bought my pfd or paddles yet but the owner of that store (Craig - Coastal Watersport - cool guy) lend me all the equipment except for the seat and kayak I purchased. It was a wet one, rainy, though still felt good. Saw lots of competitive swimmer practicing swimming in the lake...ouch, cold too.
VP ;D
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VP'
Congrats on the new yak. I was kinda of hoping that you where gona be there with the family and kids, my wife, kids and I are gona TRY to be there for the derby. I guess we'll see how things work out. hope the new yak works out for ya.
Floating cowboy
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Hey Allen I just looked at the snow creek web site and I have a question for ya. Does the entry fee cover the launch cost. I see that they charge to launch from there beach launch site. When you said that you where gona reserve the camp sites as a group what days were you gona reserve for. Just so I know if I need to reserve for Friday night We are gona try to get there friday to make the trip worth the drive. (!$@#%# GAS PRICES) How close are the cabins to the camp site. Yes I am a cheap son of a perch, but I hate to be cold. I've had my days of being cold.
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No worries VP. You still have time to change your mind. ;D Perhaps you can snag-a-ride with snag-a-but and share costs.
FC, I was going to reserve the spots for Fri and Sat night. I think there are 5 spoken for right now. But I don't think that we'll run out as we can share spots no problem. Like T said, there is plenty of room. Oh, the cabins are very close by. I saw that about the launch fee. But honestly, when we were there last weekend, they didn't charge us a thing. I think they are more thinking of trailer launch.
I'm planning on heading up Friday morning.
-Allen
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I hope you got me down as one of the five. I hate surprises.
I am really looking forward to this. After this and moutcha I will be at home for about a year trying to regain ground in WAF account. Or maybe not, if they have fun too. :-\
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Preserving WAF is good. There are some families coming. I had suggested a family outing on Saturday afternoon. So if you have any ideas, let us know. I'd like to hit the museum myself. FC, perhaps you'd like to volunteer as the "family event coordinator"?
-Allen
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Some more "family" possibilities-
- Ocean beaches day trip; either Hobuck (easy drive) or Shi Shi (easy drive plus a 2-3 mile hike) There are also some short hikes on the rez. out towards Cape Flattery, with views of Tatoosh Is.
- Family fishing; get as many lines wet as possible: could be for salmon on Sat. Could rent Kicker boats for part day trips in Neah Bay.
- Ozette Lake side trip: quite a few miles backtracking, past Sekui and then out some primitive roads. I haven't been out there for 25+ years, so would be like new for me.
Wish I had a chance to scope out LaPush while I'm so close, but that'll probably have to wait for another trip.
P.S. I forgot to add the "surfing" contest! ;D
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I think that I would disapoint everyone if I volunteered for that being that I have never been there and know absolutely nothing about what there is to do over there. there is always the beach fun, castle building, shell hunting and the such.
What is the best way to get over to that area anyway. Is there a route that doesn't use a ferry. map quest showed me the route to Edmonds and across the on the ferry to Kingston? Any way it is like a nice 6 hour drive plus.
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What is the best way to get over to that area anyway. Is there a route that doesn't use a ferry. map quest showed me the route to Edmonds and across the on the ferry to Kingston? Any way it is like a nice 6 hour drive plus.
You can go south across the Tacoma Narrows and back up.
-Allen
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Trust me, Floatin. The Kingston ferry is the easiest way by far. Look up the fares to be sure, but they're only about $13 each way for me since my car is under 7-1/2' tall total. I think that the drive around Tacoma would cost me that much in fuel. And if you get over here after about 3:30 or 4:00, forget about it... I'd estimate it'll take you 2 full hours just to get from the east side of town to the narrows bridge (you want to voice an opinion on that one Polepole?). Allen and myself went on that ferry last Fri. afternoon, about 5:00 or 5:20 and we were able to scoot right on in about 30 minutes.
As far as the beach at Snow Creek, it ain't much. It's mostly rounded rocks but a little sand. I'll most likely be making another trip out there before the derby, and if I do I'll try to get some pictures that suit the point of view of a guy who's bringing his kids. Any sandy beach suitable for castles and such is probably going to be on the reservation. Same for hiking trails. I can't imagine that you can build an organized activity around it, but I'm betting that the kids are gonna LOVE that creek. It's about 3-4' wide and maybe 12"-24" deep but very fast and, well, cold as the "Snow" in "Snow Creek".
Fishin-T
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From my place, in the Methow, it's almost an 8 hour trip to Neah Bay, depending on the ferry wait. (I travel Hwy 20 across the N. Cascades, across Deception Pass onto Whidbey Island, to the Keystone ferry, which connects to Port Townsend.)
I'm going to throw in my 2 cents, as I grew up on Edmonds, and have lived on the east side of the state for ~ 20 years. ;D
Matt, if you want to avoid the ferry hassle and cost, your best bet is to cross Blewett and Snoqualmie Passes, and then take Hwy 18 (?) to Fife (just north of Tacoma) and I-5. (That'll totally avoid any eastside problems Fishin' T has to worry about! ;) ) Go south and take the Tacoma Narrows Bridge exit, and head towards (and through) Bremerton. Follow the signs to the Hood Canal Floating Bridge and then Hwy 101.
Ferry costs at Edmonds-
Westbound Eastbound
car and driver 13.30 13.30
passenger (18+) 6.10 0
youth (6-18) 4.90 0
I don't remember what the ages are of your kids, but the round trip ferry cost is going to be at least $32.70 , and I'll bet you'll drive an extra 70 miles or so, round trip, by going Hwy 18 and the Narrows. $32.00 will buy me enough gas for 200 miles. The time will probably be about equal. (And sometimes, the wait for the ferry can be longer than driving around.)
Maybe we should do a poll on what kind of activities our families want to do?
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Hello there Cowboy --- Yeehaa! Aaaahhh had to get that in there. I'll probably see you at Moutcha if you come for that one. So no worries...
BTW, took the SP out for a spin on a nearby lake. My wife and 4 yr. old sat in the tankwell (twas there 1st time) and we had a great time. My 7 yr. old wants to join us next time. Looks like I'll be putting him in the front hatch...Haah! The whole family on an SP just under 315lbs...scary or what. I think that's like the equivalent of one heavy person right?!!! ;D
VP
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So I called today to make reservations. The sites on the other side of the creek were all booked except 1. So I booked the 6 sites in the center of the lower campground. These are right in the middle of things with the cabins on 1 side and some hookup sites on the other. I think all 6 are spoken for right now by myself, Fishin-T, Pisco Sicko, floatin cowboys, chaliefl66, and pjrflyguy. Guys, correct me if I'm wrong here. If you need a site, you may want to speak to 1 of these guys about sharing a spot, or else call Snow Creek directly at 1-800-883-1464 and book a site for yourself.
-Allen
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TO ALL,
I've gone ahead and made a reservation for one of the sites across the creek from the 6-site main area. That leaves one of those 6 slots open and so you'll need to speak up and let Allen know that you want it.
It seems that my snoring would be considered an unfair harrassment of the other contestants. ::) :D I sure don't want to be disqualified for foisting a bad case of sleep deprivation on my fellow anglers and this is why I've taken the neccessary steps noted above. ;)
Fishin-T
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Rules and signup are up on the main page. Or go here ...http://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/index2.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5&Itemid=8&pop=1&page=0
Please sign up as early as you can so we can get a good estimate on the turnout as soon as possible. More participants may lead to more and better prizes.
-Allen
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Thanks, Allen. I've printed it out already. :)
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Version 1 of a promo flyer. Still working to finalize details with other sponsors. They'll be added as things settle. But feel free to print this out and post at any fishing shops, kayak shops, etc. that are willing to carry this.
-Allen
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We have four from the east side of the state that are making plans for the time off right now ....be seeing you all there...Jim l
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Excellent RiverBase! See you there. Are you all coming from the Curlew area? If you have 4 kayak anglers up there, that's one of the densest population of kayak anglers I know of in the NW. :o
Another update ... I met the with Missy, the Special Events Manager for West Marine. Thanks to Charles for the intro. They're committed to sponsoring the derby. We're working together to come up with a good prize package. You won't be disappointed.
Needless to say, please make an effort when at all possible to support our derby sponsors. They're going out of their way to help support us and it's only natural that we try to do the same.
-Allen
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Thanks if you still have a tent site the four of us will all stay in one tent and have one rig and a trailer with four yaks in it...let us know for sure so we will still have time to make other plans. Yes we are all from the same area as a matter of fact we all work togeather and I guess we will have to see if our Bass Walleye tatcics will catch Ling and Sea Bass ....it should be a blast!!! :o....Can't Wait ;D
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Riverbase, I'll hold aside a camping spot for you and your group. There is still one more spot available as well if anyone wants to shout out for it.
You can texas rig for the bass just fine!!! And you'd even have a blast with them on your bass outfits so be sure to bring them.
-Allen
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What great news, from both Riverbase and Polepole. :D
Jim, I look forward to meeting you and your crew. I tried for walleye on Banks this past weekend, and was skunked. :'( Being a walleye virgin, I don't know what I did wrong, and I hope I can get some tips.
Allen, have you considered approaching G.I. Joe's? They're a big regional chain, and I know they sponsor some events. They do need a little help picking out their yaks if they want to appeal to serious kayak anglers. :-\ (They tend to stock things like Wilderness System's "recreational" yaks; i.e. T120s and smaller)
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I guess thats why they call this sport fishing instead of catching ...sometimes your doing everything perfect and someone forgets to tell the fish but that is what makes the sport interesting..but getting skunked is still a blow to your ego...that never happened to me ::).....anyway we may pick up one more person who just picked up his new kayak, he lives in Seattle but hasn't gave a thumbs up yet....be dreaming of Ling for the next month...Jim L
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Guys/Gals
If you send me a derby entry, can you please drop me a PM or email telling me so. I'm heading down to CA for almost 3 weeks and won't be able to check the mailbox. I would like to track how many entries we are having as it may influence sponsor involvement.
-Allen
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Here is the current chart for derby day. Nice slack in the morning with the current coming up at the time we get off the water. Still, not that big a current even at it's max.
-Allen
(http://www.dairiki.org/tides/gif.php/jdf/2006-07-30)
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Allen, is it better to fish at low tide or high tide? And where did you get the tide link chart?
Thanks!
VP
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V.P.,
It all depends on the target species. By the way, that chart is not showing the tide level, but instead it's showing the current speed. The two are related but not in sync. Like the tide might reach full high tide and then 4 hours later the current might be at top speed.
For Snow Creek, the green area indicates an ebb current, that is it's going out to sea, or towards the west. At about noon on Sunday, it'll be about 1.2 knots towards the west, and that's not very hard to paddle against. But this doesn't take "back eddies" into account. When Polepole and myself were fishing for halibuts over by Sekiu (on the straight) we thought for sure that the current would take us quickly toward the west that morning, but instead we drifted nearly as fast towards the east. Apparently we caught a wide back eddy.
I like to check this site for TIDES, which don't matter too much to me unless I've camped too close to the surf :o :
http://www.saltwatertides.com/dynamic.dir/washingtonsites.html
And this is the site for CURRENTS, which mean a LOT to me because you can use them to drift for halibuts or you might want to sit still during the slack tide (when the current has just stoped one way but hasn't started going the other way) and mooch for ling cod:
http://www.dairiki.org/tides/
Both of these links can also be found over on the "Getting Started" forum. If I'm reading you right, you're wanting to get some idea when do the fish bite best, right? In my limited experience, I've done best on lings and sea bass during the slack currents. Okay, for that answer... you're right. For that answer, you should consult with Allen.
Fishin-T
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Excellent question VP.
Here's the tide chart for Neah Bay that day so you can see there is a difference. You can see that the zero current lags by 4 hours from the top/bottom of the tide, at least it does at Neah Bay on that day.
(http://www.dairiki.org/tides/gif.php/nba/2006-07-30)
I mainly look at the current chart to make sure the current isn't ripping too much. I also use it to try to figure out where to fish and when, so that I'm not paddling against the tide m uch. At 1.2 knots, it's great movement IMO. I like there to be a little bit of movement in the water so I can cover ground on a drift, but not so much that it makes holding on the bottom difficult. I actually don't really like fishing right at the slack current unless I've found a school of fish and am parked right on it. That doesn't happen very often. Under slack conditions, I'll slow troll the bottom if I can. Fishin-T saw this technique in action at Slip Point, Sekiu a few weeks back. What ya think of that T?
Conventional wisdom is that a bit before and after a tide change is best. I've just this year been looking into the "current" think so will have to wait to get some more fishing under my belt before having firm thoughts as to what is best. Of course the tide and current effects can change from location to location. High tide might be better at one place, and low at another.
-Allen
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Oh ... Hook1 Kayak Fishing Gear is now sporting a prize for the derby. They are an online retailer of kayak fishing equipment. Check them out at www.kayakfishinggear.com (http://www.kayakfishinggear.com). And as always, support our sponsors if you get a chance. Thanks.
-Allen
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Thanks Allen, that helps alot. So, I can safely assume that you'll be a pro at reading Tides by the end of this year right? ;)
VP ;D
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Guys..don't no about you but I am really getting bumped up about this fishing derby >:(...hey if it goes well maybe we could do one over on this side next year and have a east and a west derby...we have some premo small mouth bass fishing...just a thought anyway our group can't wait till the derby its got all the makings of the(trip of the summer)every summer has one...what do ya think a 25 pound plus ling on my line...hmmmm 30 hmmmm..sorry just day dreaming....just 30 more days :o...Jim L
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Don'T mnid all my mitsakes I fsih better than I wrtie...I hope :-\
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Jim, yeehaw! We're all getting excited for this event. For sure, we'll have to plan some sort of event east of the mountains. Where and when are you thinking?
-Allen
P.S. Tell your boys to check in here and say hi.
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Just a thought but.... maybe in Sanpoil arm of the Roosevelt Lake on the 1st of june that is the first day that arm opens up and it can provide some pretty great Small Mouth Bass as well as Walleye and Trout ...there is a small camp ground there without hookups that would work real well unless it got to big, than we could move it a cross the ferry to the bigger camp spot with full hookups ..the fishing can be just as good but I always liked fishing water that just opened ;D both spots provide good fishing and if the new limits carry over 9 fish under 14 and 1 over it could make for a real close derby...everyone would be scrambling for that big fish...I was just down there a couple of weeks ago and the fishing was so good I almost ruined my face grinning ;D..Jim L
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I've always wanted to fish Roosevelt. Let's keep talking about this around the campfire at Snow Creek.
-Allen
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A couple more sponsors I'd like to mantion.
Seattle Raft and Kayak has donated a nice Extrasport Osprey PFD.
(http://www.extrasport.com/lifevests/watersports/big/osprey.jpg)
And ToteGear has donated a pair of RoRow's.
(http://www.norcalkayakanglers.com/index.php?option=com_gallery2&Itemid=81&g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=6376&g2_serialNumber=1&g2_GALLERYSID=17c5292f3725d8eb1c7cb62610dea57e)
I've only received a handful of signups so far. I know a lot more of you have said you'll be there. Please try to send your signup this week, or you'll get charged an extra $5 the week of the event.
-Allen
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I plan on bringing mine to Elliott Bay tomorrow. Sounds like a lot of items will be up for grabs!
Pete
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I am pondering showing up for this event but not sure yet. RiverBase above is my uncle. I grew up fishing with him here on the east side of WA. I live in Spokane now however but grew up in Republic/Curlew.
Just need a place to park my truck as I just throw a tarp over my rack on the truck and use it for the tent. I will have a better idea next weekend if I can make it or not. Kinda a spendy trip for me though.
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Jason ,Adam bagged on us so if you want, hop in the car with us your more than welcome,just give me a call at home ,split the gas four ways, anyway seize the moment you only go around once......Jim L
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Pretty sure I am in as of now. We get our quarterly bonuses next check and that will cover gas. I am thinking about taking my vacation time the week after the derby and staying on the coast for a few more days and doing some kayaking in one of the mountain lakes in the Cascades. Will have a better answer this weekend though.
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I'm going to push out the weighin until 12:30 from 12:00.
I've invited the United States Coast Guard Auxiliary to come inspect us in that time gap. Don't worry, there is no penalty for failing. This is an OPTIONAL inspection provided as a service to you.
Here part of an email from the USCGA. Note that all of this is not necessarily required, but it's all stuff you should be carrying on the ocean anyway.
A safety features your members could have with them in their vessel are----
Strobe Light [attached to life jacket]
Signal Mirror Life jacket pocket
Whistle " " "
Compass " " "
One or two waterproof plastic bags [one for personal
items one for Safety items] Clear plastic to see thru.
Tether lines to attach bags and also other items.
A good Life Jacket.
These are some of the items -- They all cost money, but only need to be purchased once.
I will go over these and more items while talking to the group.
If individuals have flares at this time they need not
buy a light. Whatever items they buy make sure they are Coast Guard approved.
-Allen
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Arrgh .. I had a few people drop out in the last couple days. So we're back to the low teens. Some of you who I think are going have still not sent in an entry. Anyway, if you are still planning on going, but haven't sent the entry yet, can you please send me an email/PM and let me know. If you're on the fence still ... well, if it helps any, with the lower numbers now, you have a higher chance of winning a kayak. I'm still hopeful for a good showing which will set the tone for future events we may plan. If any of you can do any last minute recruiting, that would be nice too.
-Allen
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Polepole,
I've been sweet talking Snag but it depends on some personal obligations over at his house. We'll see how they play out. Come on Snag, you can do it! Myself, yeah... I haven't sent the entry yet :-[ but I'm in 100% ;D , barring my own personal death or there abouts. I will also be bringing a guest, his name is Serak. He's been pretty interested for some time now and based on the way he was talking today I'd say he's about 98 to 99% there. Maybe 99.8, I don't know.
So especially being as I'm bringing a guest and all, what is the "meal situation" over there? I can't remember what they had at that store there. Is there anything closer than Sekiu for restaraunt or groceries? Is anybody planning on having even one "all in" communal meal or even pot luck of any sort? Am I doomed to feed my guest and myself nothing but granola (particle board) bars for two days? ::)
Fishin-T
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Bummer about the drop-outs....sort of! ;D
I've been remiss about sending in my registration, but will be there.
Posted by: Fishin-T, Today at 08:33:38 PM
Am I doomed to feed my guest and myself nothing but granola (particle board) bars for two days?
Hmmm, sounds like someone is in need of some camp (or any?) cooking skills. :P
Hopefully you will be catching some fish, so having some foil, oil, seasonings (salt, pepper,chili,onions, and lemon/lime) and maybe some tortillas and salsa, will cover lunch and dinner. (Enclose the ingrediants, in reasonable proportions, in the foil and place on fire or stove.) Then you'll only have to rely on the cardboard for one meal a day! ;)
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I'm planning on FRYING on saturday night. Fishin-T and I will have a fry off and compare secret batters. This will go well in fish tacos as well. And I'll have a bag of potatoes too. Anyone want to bring fish taco fixings? So that being said, let's plan on potlucking it with everyone prepared to have a dish to share. Chime in here if you have something in mind. If you don't and you just want to wing it, well, there is a store just down the road in Neah Bay. Regardless, I'll be FRYING. ::)
BTW, I plan on leaving Seattle around noon-ish if anyone wants to caravan. I'm still looking for help carrying an extra yak or 2 over there. I think Charles will try to fit an extra on his van, I'm going to try to carry 3, that leaves potentially one more. Also anyone have an extra paddle and PFD? I might be short 1 set.
On Saturday morning, I'm hoping to hit the grey light dawn for salmon. I thought about launching from the Coast Guard station and fishing the outside edge of Wadaah, but another idea is to hit that 10 fathom bump straight out from Snow. BTW, that's also where I'd be looking for a big ling. Here's a pic for you. Snow Creek is that jag in the road between "TOWER" and "Kelp", directly south of Seal and Sail Rocks. You can see the 10 fathom bump I'm talking about. King salmon has been on the slow side, but that can change any day. If the weather is nice, I may go further in search of a tide rip to pull a silver off of.
-Allen
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When it rains it pours, I lost another participant this morning (although his entry fee is staying in the pot). My buddy dislocated his shoulder riding/crashing his dirt bike. I have an extra kayak now if anyone knows someone that wants to give this a go.
-Allen
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They're nothing special, in fact very basic, but I have spares pfds and a paddle that I'll bring. Wish I had wet/drysuits for my wife and kid!
For Sat. evening, I'm hoping/planning for BBQ salmon and corn-on-the-cob!! :-*
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I'm a definite and I am signing up my son as well. Looking forward to meeting everyone and hoping to nab a coho on the flystick on saturday.
Pete
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Yeah I am in to. I was planning on a Friday arrival but looks like I will have to work Friday as a guy is sick this week and I am the only other that knows the job to take his place. That will work ok though. I can still get there early afternoon on Saturday and do some pre-fishing. I will register when I get there.
Jason
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I hate to bring the odds WAY WAY down for you guys on that big prize, the Ocean Kayak big Game but it looks like VP and I may make the trip. Sorry fella's :D
My buddy Jimbo might join us as well but he won't be fishing the tourny, wouldn't matter cause he couldn't catch a cold ;). We've always wondered what its like on the other side of the strait and now we can check it out...yeeee Haaaa!!!
See ya there,
Sean
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Woohoo! That's some of the best news I've heard this week.
So ... how come no one here is doing too much smack talking? Don't fishing derbies and smack talking go hand in hand? BRING IT ON!
-Allen
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Talk softly and carry a big stick. Besides its all about fun right? Yea, right.
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Excellent news, from the the Great White North. Looking forward to meeting y'all.
Today at 11:31:52 AM
Posted by: polepole
So ... how come no one here is doing too much smack talking? Don't fishing derbies and smack talking go hand in hand? BRING IT ON!
So how many tournies have you won, after talking smack? ???
How many tournies have you won, period? :P
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Yes floatin cowboys, it's all about the fun. ;) But smack talking is a lot of fun too. ;D
And Pisco Sicko ... it's not about the winning. It's about the experience. You got me there, I've not won any tournaments. But I've placed in the top 5 in a couple, probably would have placed higher if I did more smack talking. ;D Actually, it seems that newbies win a lot of these things. Go figure!
So it looks like we've had a great push this week and we're going to have a very nice turnout for the derby. Thanks to all of you who did some recruiting. This is a great event that I believe is going to launch kayak fishing to greater heights up here.
Our prize list is as follows:
As you all know, Ocean Kayak has donated our grand prize of a Prowler Big Game.
Hook1 Kayak Fishing Gear has donated in a $50 gift certificate.
Seattle Raft and Kayak has donated an Extrasport Osprey PFD.
ToteGear donated a set of RoRows.
West Marine donated a safety package including a first aid kit, flares, a bilge pump, strobe light and other goodies. They've also kicked in some hand towels and some gift certificates for most or all of the participants.
And then there is the entry fee which will total somewhere north of $300 and maybe closer to $400.
I'm still trying to figure out how to partition the prizes but for sure the heaviest fish will earn the winner the Big Game. I'm guessing this will be a lingcod.
I'd like the next prize to be for the heaviest black rockfish. This will probably be the cash prize. If for some strange reason, a black bass comes in heavier than the heaviest lingcod, I'll swap these prizes. This will give you something to think about when targeting which species.
I'll take an informal poll on Saturday night as to what to do with the other prizes. We had tossed about the idea of having a raffle for the the other 4 prizes. If there is still interest in this, we can vote for a worthy cause to donate the raffle entry to, and we can do this. Otherwise, we'll just decide on runner up prize packages. You let me know what you all want to do Saturday night and we'll make it happen!
-Allen
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Sounds like its gona be great. Remeber everyone drink heavily on satuarday nite ;D. Hey i'll be happy if I find my way over there with out getting lost. And If I catch fish well thats all gravy.
Hey pisco I read something intresting the otherday, pisco is the name of a peruvian brandy. Hmmm how did you get that name?
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floatin cowboys ... you bring the beer, I'll drink it. ;D
Nice weather forecast for the weekend on NWS.
.SAT AND SUN...W WIND TO 10 KT. WIND WAVES 1 FT.
Although it's only supposed to be in the high 50's on the coast. So dress appropriately. It will be a good relief from this heat, that's for sure.
-Allen
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Polepole,
I like to keep my trash and smack talking behind the scenes in direct emails and P.M.'s. ;) This helps me to keep the brawls and law suits to a minimum once I've walked away with the big prize. ;D
Fishin-T
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Matt- the name is strictly a reference to my sick fisherman mentality (I've received multiple diagnoses.)
!#^%#^%$$- Just got the bill for some unplanned medical/dental expenses. (Enough to buy a new kayak!) :'(
This means that in order for me to make the contest, I'm going to have to work 12 hour days, Thur. and Fri., and half of Sat., before driving out, solo. >:( :(
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Pisco Sicko, that's a long drive for a quick turnaround after pulling long hours at work. Be safe!!!
So ... one of my kayaks is unspoken for again. If you want to use it and not worry about packing your wherry, you're more than welcome.
-Allen
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I'll nap, after the contest, before returning.
Hmm, the kayak offer is tempting, even though I'm rather attached to my wherry. I'd probably save on gas without it, save on time, and still have room for the Grand Prize!!! ;D
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Lings....lings.... LINGS ...I dreaming of Ling Cod ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D....leaving Friday at 10 hope to prefish Sat.....see ya all there I hope ;) :D ;D ::)...jim
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I have to work tomorrow for half a day then our apartment managers have to come inspect our windows. I guess some have a defect....
I will be leaving early Saturday morning. Should be there early afternoon if all goes well.
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Bill, you sound like me with the the bill surprises. I just had some dental work done, he tells me " I can cap the tooth for $1600 or pull it for $150, guess what I chose. And then the maint... bill for the road, YIKES. Then in August I am taken the family to silverwood for a before school, end of summer fun. Then down to Cali for a family reunion. blahblahblah.
I am bringing vegis from the garden for the potluck, Ill make some vegi kabobs, or sauted vegis, whatever.
I am leaving friday early I hope around 6:00 or 7:00 who knows. depends on how much wine I drink tonite. ;D
Bill be safe, that is always my biggest fear,driven like that, on adrenoline (sp) I will be taken the 522 and someone just told me the other day that its called sucide alley, great! what a relief to hear that.
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Surprises, surprises. I've had them go both ways.
I've decided to bag it, for now. Just to many i$$ues to surmount.
We're going to shoot for a long weekend at a friends, in the San Juans, the end of August.
In the meantime, I have the salmon problem in the Columbia, to figure out. ;)
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Well, that sucks Pisco. We'll catch you next time.
So I was looking at the regs this morning and I noticed that salmon is closed J uly 1-31 East of North/South line through Sail Rock so we can't fish for salmon outside that 60 foot hump. We'll have to paddle West a bit.
Anyway ... just waiting on Pete to show up then we're on our way!
-Allen
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All,
The really cool 8) thing about this one is that nearly for sure one of my best fishing buddies is going to win a spankin' new high dollar fishing kayak. Of course, that means that it could be any one of 20 of us. This may not turn out to be the biggest event that we ever pull off here in the N.W., but there are things in play for this one that I think are going to make it the one to remember, the one that you'll brag that you attended. I'm nearly certain that one day they'll write ballads about the whole lot of us and our incredible efforts and the lengths that we went to against personal fatigue, hardships, and near insurmountable financial burdens in order to win. ;D
Good luck to every one of you and in the quite likely event that I take that Big G home I'll make sure that each one of you gets a chance at some point to take that baby out for a test ride. ;) And please don't bother yourself to worry about my personal well being as there's plenty of time to come down off of the excitement band wagon once we get to Monday.
Gentlemen, I will see you on the beach !!!
Fishin-T
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Good luck all
Just loading the last few things in the truck (tools, jigsaw and what not) I don't think that Big G has a housing for the Hobie pedal system so if/when I land "Lingzilla" I guess I'll have to "sew in" the "mirage drive" ;D ;D ;D
Unfortunately VP won't be able to make the trip...aaaah well VP, if you can't howl with the hounds I guess you'll have to stay home and "piss with the pups" Too bad, maybe next year.
See ya'll
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Hey Snag and the gang,
Sorry I wasn't able to make it to the derby, so who is the top winner?
Wild Sunday...
I went out to East Sooke on a short hike to fish (small craft warning so couldn't paddle my kayak), the wind was really blowing, the currents was strong and water was real choppy. In a distance of a couple of km I saw 3 whale watching boats. Couldn't make out what there were looking at. then the largest boat approach me, I still couldn't figure out what they were looking at, maybe they were watching me fish....lol.
then I look further in the distance and saw two black fins. Wow, Orcas...after a couple of minutes, decide to head up the rocks. All of a sudden I heard this Pffffflll....air blown out of the water, turned around and saw 4 Orcas right at the rock where I was fishing! ;D ;D ;D
Holy cow, they were so close. two babies and two large one. the Biggest went underwater, belly side up and I could see the white belly with black colour on the side. It was the most exciting, exhilarating feeling I've ever felt. Litterally just 10 feet away (I should have brought my camera, oh well) and those whale watchers paid $85 to see them at a far distance. I was getting "free admission" :D There were altogether 8 Orcas and all were chasing after the salmon that was in the area.
By far, the best day I'd ever hike/fish in a long time.
VP
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Started a new thread in the reports sections for derby reports and stories ... http://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/bb/index.php?topic=87.0
-Allen