*** 2016 ORC Tournament Format ****

NOTE: Voting has bee reset to only inlclude the two top vote getting options from the 1st round.


Second Round Voting Ends on May 17, 2016 at 10 am.







The ORC coordinating committee  (bsteves, ndogg, rawkfish, wobbler, and craig) would like to invite some input regarding the tournament format for this year's ORC.   We have come up with 4 alternative ranking strategies and we'd like you to vote on which you'd prefer to see. 

This poll will close in 10 days  (10 am May 12th). 

If no option ends up receiving 50% or more of the votes, we will hold a run-off poll with the top 2 options for an additional 5 days.

Here is a bit more detail about the four options as well as some examples of how some hypothetical anglers would rank their catches under each format.

Option 1.) Single Heaviest Fish.   
This is the format we've used for most of the history of the ORC.  It's pretty simple, we weigh your heaviest fish and rank everyone from there.  In the past this has meant that we've had lingcod, cabezon and even a vermilion rockfish win the tournament.

Example:


Angler A.   12 lb Lingcod, 14 lb Cabezon   =    14 lb Cabezon  (ORC winner)

Angler B.   10 lb Lingcod, 9 lb Cabezon, 2 lb Rockfish, 1 lb greenling  =  10 lb Lingcod (2nd)

Angler C.   7 lb Lingcod, 3 lb Greenling, 4 lb Cabezon  =  7 lb Lingcod (3rd)

Angler D.   4 lb Rockfish = 4 lb Rocfish (4th)



Option 2.) The 3 out of 4 Slam.
For this slam you need to catch 3 out of 4 of the target species (lingcod, cabezon, rockfish, greenling) to be entered.  We will take the combined total of your best 3 and create a slam weight. Note that you have to have 3 out of the 4 species to be considered for ranking. 

For example..

Angler B.   10 lb Lingcod, 9 lb Cabezon, 2 lb Rockfish, 1 lb Greenling  =  21 lb slam ORC Winner (we don't count the bonus greenling)

Angler A.   12 lb Lingcod, 14 lb Cabezon   =    No Slam  (didn't enter three species)

Angler C.   7 lb Lingcod, 3 lb Greenling, 4 lb Cabezon = 14 lb Slam  (2nd)
 
Angler D.   4 lb Rockfish = No Slam


Option 3.) Best of 4 Slam.
For this slam you can enter one of each of the target species and their combined weight will be your slam weight.  We will be allowing partial slams for this, so can enter your best fish even if you don't catch all four species.


For example..

Angler A.   12 lb Lingcod, 14 lb Cabezon   =    26 lb slam  (ORC Winner)

Angler B.   10 lb Lingcod, 9 lb Cabezon, 2 lb Rockfish, 1 lb greenling  =  22 lb slam  (2nd)

Angler C.   7 lb Lingcod, 3 lb Greenling, 4 lb Cabezon = 14 lb slam (3rd)
 
Angler D.   4 lb Rockfish = 4 lb slam  (4th)


Option 4.) Heaviest of each species.
Here we will award top prizes for the single heaviest catches of each of the target species.   The remaining prizes will follow the single heaviest fish format.   This is fairly similar to format we used at last year's ORC.
Ranking...
1.) Heaviest of heaviest species and heaviest over all (winner of ORC 2016)
2.) Heaviest of second biggest species
3.) Heaviest of third heaviest species
4.) Heaviest of 4th heaviest species
5-10).  Ranking of remaining fish that didn't place in top 4.

Example..

Angler A.   12 lb Lingcod, 14 lb Cabezon   =    Biggest Cabezon & ORC winner

Angler B.   10 lb Lingcod, 9 lb Cabezon, 2 lb Rockfish, 1 lb greenling  =  Biggest Ling & 2nd

Angler D.   4 lb Rockfish = Biggest Rockfish & 3rd

Angler C.   7 lb Lingcod, 3 lb Greenling, 4 lb Cabezon = Biggest Greenling & 4th

Angler E.   11 lb Lingcod   - 5th

Angler F.    10 lb Cabezon - 6th..


 

Option 4 then 3 for me

Thanks for coming up with these ideas and putting it to a community vote - that's awesome! Looking forward to seeing what everyone thinks.

Option 4 then 3 for me

Hey no second choices! 

Although... it might be good to do a run off poll with the top two choices if it ends up being close.   

If there is no clear winner (i.e. receiving more than 50% of all votes) at the end of the poll, we will run a run-off poll with the top two choices for an additional 5 days.   

Save your second choice for then bluewrx02.

Pretty close race so far with all 6 votes

After i voted it is a 3 way tie... interesting!

I haven't been to ORC in years past so I have no frame of reference to work with here aside from what I've read.

My thought is that Option 3 seems like it would be the most fun and push everyone to catch fish of all species while still going for the bigger fish. It would also have a clear cut winner at the end, not that option 4 doesn't have winners, but it has 4 winners and not one overall winner.

Just my $.02

I encourage everyone to discuss the merits of each option.

Here are my thoughts..

Option 1:  Single Heaviest
It has a long history with ORC and other kayak fishing tournaments
It is easiest to score and rank
It has the highest degree of luck involved

Option 2:  3/4 Slam
Slams are popular in other parts of the country
Requires more strategy and less luck
The penalty for not getting 3 fish species is pretty severe and will add some drama

Option 3:  Best of 4 Slam
Again, slams are popular elsewhere for a reason
Requires more strategy and less luck
No penalty for missing species

Option 4:  Heaviest of each species
We basically did this last year
Potential for strategy fairly high.. switch species if you find out someone has already caught a massive lingcod or cabezon
Hardest to score and rank everyone
Drama factor:  The 2nd largest fish in the tournament could potentially only get 5th place

The luck factor in a heaviest single fish format is pretty high.

There weren't that many 3 of 4 qualifiers last year.  It would be kind of a bummer to have 100 participants and only 20 folks on the board.  This format is also extremely difficult because of the 1 cabezon sublimit.

Heaviest slam without regard to the number of species submitted is still gong to have a decent luck component because lingcod and cabezon are so much bigger than greenling and most rockfish.

Heaviest of each species is sort of what we had last year, except 2nd went to heaviest slam.

I like the slam format, but having an empty board with few qualifiers isn't fun, so I voted for the best of 4 slam option.

The luck factor in a heaviest single fish format is pretty high.

There weren't that many 3 of 4 qualifiers last year.  It would be kind of a bummer to have 100 participants and only 20 folks on the board.  This format is also extremely difficult because of the 1 cabezon sublimit.

Heaviest slam without regard to the number of species submitted is still gong to have a decent luck component because lingcod and cabezon are so much bigger than greenling and most rockfish.

Heaviest of each species is sort of what we had last year, except 2nd went to heaviest slam.

I like the slam format, but having an empty board with few qualifiers isn't fun, so I voted for the best of 4 slam option.

+1

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Ok I voted

Hmm... 
Okay, I voted.
I also like the runoff vote option.

Interesting choices!  As someone with one whole ORC of experience and the second largest fish last year, I like the luck factor.  It gives more chance to newbies.  As someone who has experience bottom fishing (not in a kayak) the skill factor seems like a fair choice.  It more often rewards someone who has put in their time.

Can I get two votes? 😗

The run off is a good idea - thanks for letting us vote!