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Topic: Daiwa magseal?  (Read 2613 times)

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Larry_MayII_HR

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Hi all,

I am in the market for not one but two new spinning reels and have been looking into Daiwa as I have had good luck with them in the past. I am wondering if anyone has any experience with their "magsealed" reels that they'd be willing to offer? Specifically, I am concerned about service-ability related to the high tech, nonstandard magnetic oil they use, and the presumably high costs of said oil product. Does a magseal product come with a tube of magseal oil for owner use?

For context, the two reels I am looking to replace are 2500 size Daiwa Capricorn and Shimano Stradic, both purchased in 2005 to 2007 range (they've had good long lives but they're shot). I fish quite a bit, not as much as some on this forum, but probably these reels will see 50 uses a year. I want to buy quality products while will serve for 10 years minimum in both salt and freshwater.

Thanks in advance.


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I don't have the experience you asked for, but the Daiwa Australia site told me this:

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My Reel is Magsealed. How do I service it?

All Magsealed reels should be returned to the Daiwa Australia Service Centre for servicing of Magsealed components.


Larry_MayII_HR

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That's what I feared...I'll definitely pass if the reel needs to be sent to the shop for service.  I'm not a fan of anything that I can't maintain or service without the manufacturer's blessing. 

Maybe Daiwa's logic is that the technology is so good that the reel shouldn't need service except maybe once every 10 years or so? 

Team Daiwa guys/gals - any input?


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I expected the worst, but it was worse than I expected...


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I'm pretty certain it's the same in the US.
                
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There are aftermarket bearings such as BOCA, hawgtech, etc which are made out of stainless steel with ceramic balls. If it's corrosion you're worried about I'd just swap these bearings into whatever reel you want.


Larry_MayII_HR

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Thanks for the information, guys.

Workhard - I'm not worried about corrosion...what I am worried about is not being able to perform my own routine maintenance.  The gap between the spool and reel body is supposedly sealed by magnetic oil....what happens when I blast off my reel with water after I am done in the salt and that magnetic oil barrier is broken and I can't re-lube it on my own?  Maybe I am overthinking this thing.

But then again, fishing reels are simple machines; I haven't needed space age lubricants in the past and I don't think I need them now.  Probably going to go lower-tech on my next reel purchase and forego the magseal technology.

Cheers guys


Larry_MayII_HR

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Getting deeper into this now - found a nice video on the magseal technology...