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Title: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: bsteves on June 15, 2016, 10:51:02 AM
Below is a draft of the ORC check in / check out / weigh in form that we will be using during the event. 

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These will be printed (3 to a page) on Rite-in-the-Rain paper and each of the ORC safety inspectors will be using these to record your compliance to the safety rules.  These safety inspectors will also have lists of who has paid and who has signed a waiver.  If you have not signed a waiver yet, they will also have extra copies for you to sign.

Safety inspection stations will be located down near the top of the ramp (a bit to the east of the ramp) and at the weigh-in station (look for a pop up tent on the grass on the east end of the parking lot with a Next Adventure banner).  In addition, we will likely have at least one roving inspector in the parking lot area.

Please come to the safety inspection with your kayak ready and your immersion gear and PDF on.

Note that we will check your gear off, if all is well, we will record your inspection time and you will be asked for a signature.   When you come in (before 2 pm ) report to the weigh in station and we will record your time, your fish weights, and ask for another signature.

If you failed to do the morning safety check in, we won't have a form filled out for you to record your fish and you and your fish will disqualified from the tournament.  In other words, while we will do our best to make sure we have everyone inspected, in the end if you want to compete in the tournament it is up to you to make sure you get your safety check done.   

Details about what we are looking for during the safety inspection...

As per the rules...

http://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=17843.0

In particular...  Sections 3a - 3f  which lists required safety items...

3. While on the water each participant must:

   a. Wear immersion gear appropriate to Oregon coastal surface water temperatures
   
   We will accept the following forms for immersion gear....

      1.) Full Dry suit (or Full Semi-Dry suit)
      2.) Dry top (or semi-dry top) and Dry paints
      3.) Full Wetsuit
      4.) Farmer John and Dry top (or semi-dry top)
      5.) Waders with wading belt and Dry Top (or semi-dry top)

A dry suit (or dry top) has latex arm and neck gaskets as well as a wide, tight fitting waist closure. 

A semi-dry suit (or semi-dry top) has latex arm gaskets a tight fitting neoprene neck gasket as well as a wide, tight fitting waist closure.  The Kokatat Supernova Angler Suits that many NWKA members have are Semi-dry suits because they have a neoprene neck gasket.

Basically, don't show up in anything that you couldn't float around in the ocean in for 20-30 minutes.

   b. Wear a Coast Guard approved personal flotation device (PDF) at all times. The PFD must be type I, II, III, or inflatable life vest as defined by the US Coast Guard
 
   This one is pretty self-explanatory.  If there  are any questions we will be looking for the Coast Guard rating on the PDF itself for clarification.

   c. Carry on their kayak a functional marine band handheld VHF radio and monitor channels 80, 72, and 16 while adhering to proper VHF radio communication procedures

   We will check that this is a functional VHF radio and not a FRS (family radio service) radio.

  d. Carry a signaling device on their person
     
   We're looking for a sound producing device such as a whistle or air horn as required by the Coast Guard.

   e. Fly a safety flag on their kayak

    Something bright that extends over your head while on the water.   This can be a bike or ATV flag, a flag attached to an extra fishing rod, or any of a number of kayak specific safety flags out on the market. 
 
   f. Carry on their kayak a bailing device

  A hand held bilge pump works best, but anything that can be used to quickly bail out water will suffice.


This process may seem arduous to some, but in previous years we have many anglers fishing our tournament that somehow snuck out and didn't follow our safety rules.   For example, last year we had an angler in a kayak wearing just jeans and a hoodie and we had another in another kayak not wearing their PFD.   We've always had some form of check in, but in previous years that consisted of just checking you name (or number) off a list.   The problem with that was had people checking in their buddies to expedite things.

If anyone is going to be at the ORC and not planning on fishing, but willing to help out, please PM me.  As you can see there are lots of opportunities to help out.     



 
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: snopro on June 15, 2016, 12:48:56 PM
Well done.  I don't think it could be more clear.

Rite-in-the-rain is a great idea.
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: sumpNZ on June 15, 2016, 01:09:27 PM
I think it would be a smashing idea to have NA, KayakShed, or some other vendor on hand at least at the campground, and possibly at the boat launch too, with an inventory of items for purchase that are required to participate.  E.g. bilge pumps, whistles/horns/, safety flags, and VHF radios.

It would seriously suck to be DQ'd because your VHF took a dump when you did the functional test on it, or to realize you left your bilge pump at home, or whatever.

2 years ago I broke my safety flag when I huli'd in the surf at Hobuck shortly before ORC.  Luckily I was able to get replacement parts and fix it in time, but had NA been there with a selection of flags I could have bought something easily if those parts had been delayed.
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: craig on June 15, 2016, 08:56:33 PM
I think it would be a smashing idea to have NA, KayakShed, or some other vendor on hand at least at the campground, and possibly at the boat launch too, with an inventory of items for purchase that are required to participate.  E.g. bilge pumps, whistles/horns/, safety flags, and VHF radios.

It would seriously suck to be DQ'd because your VHF took a dump when you did the functional test on it, or to realize you left your bilge pump at home, or whatever.

2 years ago I broke my safety flag when I huli'd in the surf at Hobuck shortly before ORC.  Luckily I was able to get replacement parts and fix it in time, but had NA been there with a selection of flags I could have bought something easily if those parts had been delayed.
This is a great idea. We will reach out to them and ask. I drove an hour and a half to go duck hunting two years ago and forgot my booties. Luckily for me Scapoose Bay Kayak was open. It actually turned out for the better, I bought a pair a couple sizes larger than the ones I forgot. This allowed me to wear heavier wool socks and my feet were much warmer.  :)  It would have sucked to have to turn around and go home.
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: INSAYN on June 15, 2016, 08:59:08 PM
I think it would be a smashing idea to have NA, KayakShed, or some other vendor on hand at least at the campground, and possibly at the boat launch too, with an inventory of items for purchase that are required to participate.  E.g. bilge pumps, whistles/horns/, safety flags, and VHF radios.

It would seriously suck to be DQ'd because your VHF took a dump when you did the functional test on it, or to realize you left your bilge pump at home, or whatever.

2 years ago I broke my safety flag when I huli'd in the surf at Hobuck shortly before ORC.  Luckily I was able to get replacement parts and fix it in time, but had NA been there with a selection of flags I could have bought something easily if those parts had been delayed.
This is a great idea. We will reach out to them and ask. I drove an hour and a half to go duck hunting two years ago and forgot my booties. Luckily for me Scapoose Bay Kayak was open. It actually turned out for the better, I bought a pair a couple sizes larger than the ones I forgot. This allowed me to wear heavier wool socks and my feet were much warmer.  :)  It would have sucked to have to turn around and go home.

And then there was this time when you forgot your paddle, and didn't realize it until you heading back through the surf zone.  You are too funny!   ;D 
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: craig on June 15, 2016, 09:44:25 PM
I wear my gym clothes to work in the morning and work out. It is a common theme for me to forget necessities. Let's just say Commando Friday isn't just for Fridays anymore. It can happen when you least expect it. ::)
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: TP on June 16, 2016, 11:28:26 AM
I think it would be a smashing idea to have NA, KayakShed, or some other vendor on hand at least at the campground, and possibly at the boat launch too, with an inventory of items for purchase that are required to participate.  E.g. bilge pumps, whistles/horns/, safety flags, and VHF radios.

It would seriously suck to be DQ'd because your VHF took a dump when you did the functional test on it, or to realize you left your bilge pump at home, or whatever.

2 years ago I broke my safety flag when I huli'd in the surf at Hobuck shortly before ORC.  Luckily I was able to get replacement parts and fix it in time, but had NA been there with a selection of flags I could have bought something easily if those parts had been delayed.

We're planning to bring some necessity type things to sell at least at the campground, not sure if we'll set up at the launch/park.

 I'd love to get everyone's feedback with would like to see, right now I'm planning to bring whistles, drybags, bilgepumps, flags, and some other stuff that people might commonly leave at home.

I'll see if we can grab a couple retail VHFs, and Invasive species permits but we'll have to keep things simple, the AIS are also available in town at any ODFW vendor in case anyone forgets theirs or are coming from out of state.

if there's something you'd like to see shoot me or CJ a pm or post it up.

 
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: westslopecutt on June 16, 2016, 11:35:21 AM
If you're selling replacement electronics, they'll need a battery option since they probably won't be charged coming out of the package.
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: sumpNZ on June 16, 2016, 11:38:07 AM
I think it would be a smashing idea to have NA, KayakShed, or some other vendor on hand at least at the campground, and possibly at the boat launch too, with an inventory of items for purchase that are required to participate.  E.g. bilge pumps, whistles/horns/, safety flags, and VHF radios.

It would seriously suck to be DQ'd because your VHF took a dump when you did the functional test on it, or to realize you left your bilge pump at home, or whatever.

2 years ago I broke my safety flag when I huli'd in the surf at Hobuck shortly before ORC.  Luckily I was able to get replacement parts and fix it in time, but had NA been there with a selection of flags I could have bought something easily if those parts had been delayed.

We're planning to bring some necessity type things to sell at least at the campground, not sure if we'll set up at the launch/park.

 I'd love to get everyone's feedback with would like to see, right now I'm planning to bring whistles, drybags, bilgepumps, flags, and some other stuff that people might commonly leave at home.

I'll see if we can grab a couple retail VHFs, and Invasive species permits but we'll have to keep things simple, the AIS are also available in town at any ODFW vendor in case anyone forgets theirs or are coming from out of state.

if there's something you'd like to see shoot me or CJ a pm or post it up.

 

The campground is a license vendor, so it's probably not necessary for you to bring Invasive Species permits.

I would definitely bring at least a couple/three VHF radios.  Especially if there's also a means to charge them.  If you have any demos or blems/returns that are out of the packaging already anyway that would allow for charging prior to sale.  Maybe even rent them if you have that ability?

Bring some rescue knives too. 
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: Ling Banger on June 16, 2016, 02:36:41 PM
For what it is IMO these are the most effective signaling device. Canned air horns are loud but the sound doesn't carry as well.

http://t.basspro.com/SeaSense-Safety-Blaster-Horn/product/67743/ (http://t.basspro.com/SeaSense-Safety-Blaster-Horn/product/67743/)

Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: Spot on June 16, 2016, 02:53:03 PM
Nice job Brian et al!

-Mark-
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: Zach.Dennis on June 16, 2016, 03:46:01 PM
In my recent move I packed away my vhf radio in storage. I am hoping to find it by then if not would anyone be willing to rent an extra they may have. Say 20 bucks or a 12 pack for the day?
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: craig on June 16, 2016, 07:46:27 PM
In my recent move I packed away my vhf radio in storage. I am hoping to find it by then if not would anyone be willing to rent an extra they may have. Say 20 bucks or a 12 pack for the day?

I think I can get a hold of one for you. I should have an extra available.
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: craig on June 16, 2016, 07:54:31 PM
Also, for the AIS, you can purchase them cheaper from the Oregon Marine Board than most fishing license vendors due to the $2 fee. The OMB sells them online and you can print it out while you are awaiting your tyvek tag in the mail (at no additional charge) https://apps3.oregon.gov/application/osmb/elicense/. Also, you can buy a 2 year from them if you plan to fish it again next year. Our sponsor Next Adventure also sells the OMB Tyvek one I believe, and correct me if I am wrong, but I do not think there is the vendor fee.

I have a spare I will rent for $4.50 for the day with a $10 deposit.  ;D
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: PNW on June 25, 2016, 01:34:21 PM
I think it would be a smashing idea to have NA, KayakShed, or some other vendor on hand at least at the campground, and possibly at the boat launch too, with an inventory of items for purchase that are required to participate.  E.g. bilge pumps, whistles/horns/, safety flags, and VHF radios.

It would seriously suck to be DQ'd because your VHF took a dump when you did the functional test on it, or to realize you left your bilge pump at home, or whatever.

2 years ago I broke my safety flag when I huli'd in the surf at Hobuck shortly before ORC.  Luckily I was able to get replacement parts and fix it in time, but had NA been there with a selection of flags I could have bought something easily if those parts had been delayed.
Good idea, I'll need a bilge pump.
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: Ling Banger on July 04, 2016, 08:41:25 AM
I think it would be a smashing idea to have NA, KayakShed, or some other vendor on hand at least at the campground, and possibly at the boat launch too, with an inventory of items for purchase that are required to participate.  E.g. bilge pumps, whistles/horns/, safety flags, and VHF radios.

It would seriously suck to be DQ'd because your VHF took a dump when you did the functional test on it, or to realize you left your bilge pump at home, or whatever.

2 years ago I broke my safety flag when I huli'd in the surf at Hobuck shortly before ORC.  Luckily I was able to get replacement parts and fix it in time, but had NA been there with a selection of flags I could have bought something easily if those parts had been delayed.
Good idea, I'll need a bilge pump.

Don't get the bilge pump made by Seattle Sports. The plunger is glued onto the rod and detaches easily. Their customer service is non existent.

The one made by Aqua Bound is a much better quality product.
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: bsteves on July 04, 2016, 02:30:40 PM
Scotty makes a solid bilge pump.
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: INSAYN on July 04, 2016, 05:46:25 PM
I would avoid any with a plastic pump shaft.  Look for one made with a metal one. 
Scotty, and Sea to Summit are good choices.
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: Mark Collett on July 04, 2016, 07:15:37 PM

  Would a large (35 oz ) coffee can be an acceptable "bailing device" ?

  Little weight-- removes water--- easy to obtain (if you don't already have a bunch).

  Legal ?
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: bsteves on July 04, 2016, 09:19:24 PM

  Would a large (35 oz ) coffee can be an acceptable "bailing device" ?

  Little weight-- removes water--- easy to obtain (if you don't already have a bunch).

  Legal ?


Yes that would be fine.  A large sponge would also work.
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: bluewrx02 on July 05, 2016, 12:10:07 PM

  Would a large (35 oz ) coffee can be an acceptable "bailing device" ?

  Little weight-- removes water--- easy to obtain (if you don't already have a bunch).

  Legal ?

Are you able to actually use it? (Fit it in the hull and scoop water) if not it's useless
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: Skipper on July 05, 2016, 07:09:12 PM
When will a decision be made on a weather cancellation or postponement for the ORC?

Saturday 7/9/2016: Per Weather Channel "Periods of rain. High near 60F. Winds SSW at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 90%. Rainfall near a quarter of an inch.

Per NOAA: Possibly a thunderstorm.
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: sumpNZ on July 05, 2016, 07:17:15 PM
When will a decision be made on a weather cancellation or postponement for the ORC?

Saturday 7/9/2016: Per Weather Channel "Periods of rain. High near 60F. Winds SSW at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 90%. Rainfall near a quarter of an inch.

Per NOAA: Possibly a thunderstorm.

Rain and chilly temps won't cause cancellation (nor would fog).  Winds in the small craft advisory zone (25-38mph), and swells sufficient for the Coast Guard to limit the bar for sure will.  Not sure what the insurance requirements are for this shin-dig, they may be less than that, but for sure we'd not be fishing in those conditions.

Now, your personal limits may be considerably lower too.  I would not choose to go out knowing it was blowing 15-20mph even if the tournament was still officially on.
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: crash on July 05, 2016, 07:19:09 PM
Bar conditions are updated twice a day here:

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/pqr/marine/BarObs.php

Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: PNW on July 05, 2016, 07:49:12 PM

  Would a large (35 oz ) coffee can be an acceptable "bailing device" ?

  Little weight-- removes water--- easy to obtain (if you don't already have a bunch).

  Legal ?


Yes that would be fine.  A large sponge would also work.
I've got a big sponge, so I guess I'm okay. Don't want to pack too much gear.  ::)
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: INSAYN on July 05, 2016, 08:09:08 PM
I ordered the rain, sorry about that.   No I'm not.  >:D

I MUCH prefer fishing in the rain, rather than cooking topside.  I'm already dressed for getting wet, so rain isn't going to change much other than my comfort level inside the suit.
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: craig on July 05, 2016, 08:35:20 PM
Sadly, this is not an easily re-scheduled event. People schedule their vacations for it and finding a weekend when all 100+ people can get together would be impossible. Then, you have to hope the weather is good that day, too.
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: INSAYN on July 05, 2016, 09:04:39 PM
Sadly, this is not an easily re-scheduled event. People schedule their vacations for it and finding a weekend when all 100+ people can get together would be impossible. Then, you have to hope the weather is good that day, too.

You guys have done a smashing good job setting this years ORC up. 

No need for a back up date or venue, as BSteves already made it clear the party will still go on even if we don't go fishing. 
We learned early on (back in 2009) how sucky it was to have a back up venue on short notice.  It really didn't feel right. 

Putting together a great set of sponsors that kick down lots of swag to raffle off and/or toss in captains bags irons out the cost of the entry fee.

Lets do this, fishing or no fishing!!   8)
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: PNW on July 05, 2016, 09:05:29 PM
I just took a good look at the boundary map.  ???  :-\  Maybe I'll just sleep in & party  :drunken_smilie:
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: Kyle M on July 05, 2016, 09:37:22 PM
For what it is IMO these are the most effective signaling device. Canned air horns are loud but the sound doesn't carry as well.

http://t.basspro.com/SeaSense-Safety-Blaster-Horn/product/67743/ (http://t.basspro.com/SeaSense-Safety-Blaster-Horn/product/67743/)
I have one of these and replaced it. Could not find a way to plug both ears and blow this thing. It is deafening.
Title: Re: *** 2016 ORC Safety Check In / Check Out / Weigh In ***
Post by: sumpNZ on July 06, 2016, 08:04:27 PM
When will a decision be made on a weather cancellation or postponement for the ORC?

Saturday 7/9/2016: Per Weather Channel "Periods of rain. High near 60F. Winds SSW at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 90%. Rainfall near a quarter of an inch.

Per NOAA: Possibly a thunderstorm.

Rain and chilly temps won't cause cancellation (nor would fog).  Winds in the small craft advisory zone (25-38mph), and swells sufficient for the Coast Guard to limit the bar for sure will.  Not sure what the insurance requirements are for this shin-dig, they may be less than that, but for sure we'd not be fishing in those conditions.

Now, your personal limits may be considerably lower too.  I would not choose to go out knowing it was blowing 15-20mph even if the tournament was still officially on.

You may have jinxed us!  NOAA Forecast is now for SW winds at 15-20kts (17-23mph) and gusts to 25kts (29mph).  West swell at 5' with 4' wind waves.  If that holds we'll get a small craft advisory (>18kts for 2 hours).  Let's all pray for the weather to settle down.  Personally I can handle 5' swell, but add 4' wind waves and sustained winds in excess of 15mph and I'm in a no-go frame of mind, even if there's not a SCA.  With a West swell and fairly strong winds from the SW I imagine that will make the hole rather sporty and could restrict the bar even if the SCA conditions aren't quite met.