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Regional Discussions => Washington Kayak Fishing => Topic started by: henney on September 10, 2017, 02:34:30 PM

Title: MA10
Post by: henney on September 10, 2017, 02:34:30 PM
Lots of coho out there right now. I was done by 8, as was another kayak angler (nice meeting you Tim). Mine came on a Mountain Dew Brad's CP, but just about everything is working. Go get some!
Title: Re: MA10
Post by: Trident 13 on September 10, 2017, 05:55:40 PM
Always nice to get a Duce!  Shot a pm to you.
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Post by: SeatownYak on September 11, 2017, 07:00:21 AM
Well done. What part of MA10 are your fishing?


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Title: Re: MA10
Post by: henney on September 11, 2017, 12:58:13 PM
Edmonds to Richmond Beach
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Post by: skinner on September 11, 2017, 05:53:24 PM
It was great to meet you Henny,I was out again this morning with the same results. I was back on the beach by 8:30
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Post by: searun1 on September 11, 2017, 06:14:57 PM
I am farther south of you near the area 10/11 line and they seem to have vacated my area.  They were here and fishing was good and then they disappeared.

Can you provide any advice on how you are getting into them?  Not sure if that's protocol on this board but always willing to take advice.

SR1
Title: Re: MA10
Post by: henney on September 11, 2017, 06:35:55 PM
It was great to meet you Henny,I was out again this morning with the same results. I was back on the beach by 8:30

Nice! I might be able to get out Wed, but I may be going to Shilshole to stay out of the weekday I-5 traffic. I'll let you know.

I am farther south of you near the area 10/11 line and they seem to have vacated my area.  They were here and fishing was good and then they disappeared.

Can you provide any advice on how you are getting into them?  Not sure if that's protocol on this board but always willing to take advice.

SR1

I'm running a Deep Six at 40-70' and trolling fast (3-4mph). I try to fish along tide rips, and I'm having pretty consistent luck when I'm able to find bait in the upper half of the water column. Green seems to be the hot color.
Skinner's using a downrigger, so he can get after fish that I can't reach.
Title: Re: MA10
Post by: Trident 13 on September 12, 2017, 12:02:52 PM
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trolling fast (3-4mph)


I was hoping to hit Edmonds Sunday, but forecast of winds at 10 gusting to 15 from the SSW and rain make hitting that speed kind of a tough paddle quartering into the wind towing a downrigger toward the oil docks.  I'd have to limit in about 10 minutes.  :embarassed:
I just confirmed with the WFG that the closure of the inner Shilshole Bay was lifted on 8-31.  Launching out of Golden Gardens offers more protected water that has been productive in years past.  I still plan to give it a shot unless we get the rain we need, just trending toward Shilsole  now which can be an easier option for others rather than risking the winds into Edmonds blowing right into the launch area.  I'm hoping to hit the water toward 6:45 ish.  Lots of boats will likely be leaving the main launch and smoking toward Jefferson Head, so if you're new to the area, the slot from the marina exit out towards the green buoy off Golden is a good place to avoid as well as be very visible, especially if boats are running in the rain.  Also, it's not usually necessary to be in that slot if the fish are in, you can fish in front of the breakwater or stay close to shore and venture around to the north side of the green buoy out of the fast lane.
Title: Re: MA10
Post by: henney on September 12, 2017, 02:01:53 PM
Do you launch off the beach or use the ramp?
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Post by: Trident 13 on September 12, 2017, 03:22:23 PM
I like to launch off the beach as it can be a real zoo on the ramp. Also, I'm not fond of paddling out the jetty exit area with jack-wads going slow out of courtesy and leaving 3 foot short length waves as they turn out.  It's a good place to practice your emergency speed paddle for a couple hundred yards.  If you use the ramp, there's narrow lanes on the outside areas of the docks that usually work.  If I know there's going to be potential for wind, I drop at the beach and run the wheels back to the car.  Wind, rain, speeding boats in poor light make you want to think over your re-entry if needed.  Knock on wood, have never have had to yet (haven't launched in off an ocean beach yet) but want to be paying attention.  The nice thing is the park opens early and with that weather, you should be able to park close to a good launch point.  Try to pick a outwardly visible spot and avoid leaving anything of value in site.  I've actually parked on the street and wheeled in out of concern for some by-standers, but it's not usually bad, just pay attention if it's early enough to be dusky...
Address:
8498 Seaview Pl NW, Seattle, WA 98117
(https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&q=golden+gardens+parking&oq=golden+gar&gs_l=psy-ab.1.3.0l4.1300.3504.0.6141.10.10.0.0.0.0.98.821.10.10.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.10.816...0i131k1.CWFLwrkKyXU)
Title: Re: MA10
Post by: skinner on September 12, 2017, 05:27:22 PM
The fishing was very good again today. I fished straight out from the park, I caught 5 or 6 first thing this morning but only one was a unmarked fish. Then it was slow until the tide change around 10:00 then everyone had fish on. The fish I got today were the largest I have gotten so far this year. I tried to post a picture but it didn't work ,does anyone know the process for posting a picture?
Title: Re: MA10
Post by: Trident 13 on September 12, 2017, 08:00:42 PM
Skinner, sent you a PM (Personal Message) that should help you.  It will show up in your email.  My numbers in it if you have more questions.
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Post by: skinner on September 12, 2017, 09:13:18 PM
(http://)These are the fish I caught today
Title: Re: MA10
Post by: Trident 13 on September 12, 2017, 10:06:06 PM
Great job, now that you know how to re-size pictures, I'll expect to see more.  Maybe even that big first King!
Title: Re: MA10
Post by: henney on September 12, 2017, 10:07:12 PM
That set up catches a lot of fish out there.
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Post by: henney on September 13, 2017, 07:33:15 PM
Overslept today and missed the dawn patrol bite, and had to take off before tide change to go to work. Still managed to get one. There's a huge net stretched across about a mile of water right in front of the oil docks.
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Post by: skinner on September 14, 2017, 06:44:53 PM
I got one first thing this morning and finally got my second unmarked at the 1:00 P.M. tide change .I did catch several unmarked between the two .The net was further north today ,they went right into the middle of the fleet and dispersed the net and let it drift south with the incoming tide .They did that several times picking it up just off the oil docks .I mostly fish on the north end of the fleet straight out from the park where I launch .I will be there again Friday and Saturday if anyone is interested .
Title: Re: MA10
Post by: henney on September 14, 2017, 09:03:08 PM
i'll probably be there tomorrow.
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Post by: henney on September 15, 2017, 02:12:31 PM
Just one again today. There was a pod of orcas off Edmonds heading south towards Meadow Point this morning.
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Post by: SciGuy on September 15, 2017, 09:21:55 PM
Nice work! From my view on the ferry this morning, you had plenty of company.  I counted over 100 boats from Edmonds and to the South on my way into work this morning.

I'll be hitting it from the West side off Bainbridge in the morning.  Flinging flies at first light and then trolling hootchies with a herring strip once the bait moves to deeper water.  I do, however, have a Brad's rigged up and ready to go in case the hootchies don't produce.
Title: Re: MA10
Post by: Trident 13 on September 17, 2017, 02:11:33 PM
I tip my hat to Mr Henney this morning.
I first went to Edmonds early just in time to see another kayaker coming back in after 30 minutes without wetting a line due to the wind.  Decided to try Meadow Park by Shilshole as it was kinda on the way home.  Was putting in as henney came to shore for a break,  with a nice coho in the bag.  We both went back out and gave it a try, but gusts backed by rollers made it tough.  Took a hard 30 minutes to get about 1/4 mile into the wind and what felt like a few seconds to get back.  4 mph on the GPS with about the only use of the paddle other than to stabalize, very little paddling at all.  We both called it a day.  Even the PB's were taking a pounding.  As one PB came by bouncing along at about 1/4 throttle I at least got a thumbs up, lol.
Title: Re: MA10
Post by: henney on September 17, 2017, 02:17:10 PM
I was lucky to hook that fish before things got really out of hand. Checked the forecast when I got home and saw there's a small craft advisory for the sound today. Ugly out there.

Nice meeting you John.
Title: Re: MA10
Post by: SeatownYak on September 27, 2017, 01:28:43 PM
Has anyone been out in MA10 recently?  Just curious if the slivers are still around.
Title: Re: MA10
Post by: Trident 13 on September 27, 2017, 01:56:27 PM
Some fish are around Meadow Park/Shilshole, based on what I saw last weekend.  I lost two that make me hang my head, not huge, but 4-5 lbers.  Counts seem to be dwindling based on what I saw/heard.  Haven't heard about Edmonds or further south.  The whole Shilshole bay is open now.
Title: Re: MA10
Post by: henney on September 27, 2017, 04:02:53 PM
Double skunk for me last weekend. Saturday at Edmonds, Sunday as Shilshole. 1 takedown all weekend. Catch rates are down, but there's still enough fish around to make it worth the trip. I'll be out tomorrow morning, probably at Shilshole.

29 fish for 65 anglers checked yesterday at Shilshole.
Title: Re: MA10
Post by: gnomodom on September 27, 2017, 04:33:26 PM
A jack and native coho last weekend for me.
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Post by: SeatownYak on September 27, 2017, 07:46:42 PM
I was thinking about trying Shilshole in the next couple days, possibly tomorrow morning. Were you fishing in the bay last weekend or closer to meadow point?


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Title: Re: MA10
Post by: Trident 13 on September 27, 2017, 09:19:14 PM
With high tide early you could launch asap and head north off the green buoy off golden gardens. Don’t overlook bait and fish just out of shore casting range passing the beach house, even one double back and out might be worth it if it’s semi dark. . Catch the tide across the bay toward westpoint. I lost my biggest of two (talk of shame) just inside the white buoy mid jetty. I was using a coyote spoon 3 feet behind a 1 ounce twist killing banana weight about 15 feet behind the cannon ball. Add 5-10 feet to your anticipated depth. Or, try a deep six 50-60 feet out with a squid/flasher like Ballard who BROUGHT home two fish. Lol.
Do watch for jack ward pb drivers rigging up while heading out, another reason to try close in out of the gate. I’m going to try Sat or Sunday with this same plan
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Post by: gnomodom on September 27, 2017, 10:12:18 PM
Mine were both in about 250' of water, roughly straight west of the dragon that's on the jetty. I was trolling a glow squid about 80' depth  with a purple 11" flasher. I was also going fast, probably 3.5-4.5 MPH. The bite died down considerably after the dawn tide, but started picking back up before lunch.
Title: Re: MA10
Post by: Trident 13 on September 28, 2017, 08:35:53 AM
To help those who haven't fished Shilshole, on an incoming tide, this is a reasonable route many try.  If you put in at the Garden, don't overlook circling just off shore.  If you head to the green buoy off the point, the tide (this weekend) will switch to incoming, so fish the buoy early as the tide will flow at a good rate after about 8 AM.  You can ride it toward where Gnom picked his up and then head in closer to the jetty on the paddle back to avoid heading into the tide.  I lost a good fish in 90 fw fishing 60ft about 1/4 way from the north end of the jetty.  You can usually pick up a back eddie near the beach again, paddle north and repeat.  If using downriggers, be aware the bottom comes up VERY quickly if you get between the green buoy on the north end and the beach.
 
This link will give you an idea of current based on Seattle tide flows and currents can be every bit as important as tide flows inside the sound. 
http://nsgl.gso.uri.edu/washu/washuc77001/washuc77001_part2.pdf (http://nsgl.gso.uri.edu/washu/washuc77001/washuc77001_part2.pdf)
Title: Re: MA10
Post by: henney on September 28, 2017, 01:48:50 PM
I ended up at Edmonds today. 1 takedown for 1 fish. Much larger model than the 4-6lb fish I've been catching out there. Blackjack Brad's cut plug 80' on the line counter in 500+ FOW. There was a tribal net out there all morning.
Title: Re: MA10
Post by: Trident 13 on September 28, 2017, 03:22:16 PM
Curious if you were out early during the big flood or waited till later can fished the slack flood about noonish?  Haven't fished Edmonds much, but I think the tide can move right along through there.  Do you know if you can ride it down to the oil docks and go in closer to shore to catch a back eddie?  I'm O/2 lately and it's getting harder to get a paddle-pass.  If you hit high slack I might party a bit Friday night and still make it out, lol.  I thought about seeing if my wife would take me to Edmonds at o-dark-30 and riding the flood all the way down to Golden Gardens where she could pick me up, but I don't need a fish that bad yet  :knob:.
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Post by: henney on September 28, 2017, 06:37:38 PM
I was out just after first light and current was pushing south pretty hard, with wind out of the north. I was rerigging just south of the oil docks around 7:30 and was being pushed south at about 1.5-2 mph. I trolled north against it and picked up a fish around 9 halfway between the docks and the Point Edwards. There was a little bit of action around me within the next half hour or so. A run from Edmonds to Shilshole would have been pretty easy today.
Title: Re: MA10
Post by: gnomodom on September 29, 2017, 08:46:07 AM
To help those who haven't fished Shilshole, on an incoming tide, this is a reasonable route many try.  If you put in at the Garden, don't overlook circling just off shore.  If you head to the green buoy off the point, the tide (this weekend) will switch to incoming, so fish the buoy early as the tide will flow at a good rate after about 8 AM.  You can ride it toward where Gnom picked his up and then head in closer to the jetty on the paddle back to avoid heading into the tide.  I lost a good fish in 90 fw fishing 60ft about 1/4 way from the north end of the jetty.  You can usually pick up a back eddie near the beach again, paddle north and repeat.  If using downriggers, be aware the bottom comes up VERY quickly if you get between the green buoy on the north end and the beach.
 
This link will give you an idea of current based on Seattle tide flows and currents can be every bit as important as tide flows inside the sound. 
http://nsgl.gso.uri.edu/washu/washuc77001/washuc77001_part2.pdf (http://nsgl.gso.uri.edu/washu/washuc77001/washuc77001_part2.pdf)

I was doing a very similar loop, but further offshore, and slightly longer.  There was very little action closer to shore. Plenty of boats, but less hookups. For me last weekend, getting deep was important to get to the fish. I didn't mark a single one on the FF either, so they are definitely moving around.
Title: Re: MA10
Post by: Trident 13 on September 29, 2017, 12:35:14 PM
Sunday is looking a little more favorable for Edmonds or Shilshole from my view.  Winds 5-10 out of the NW come in pretty hard both places, Sunday maybe 4 mph wind out of the ENE should provide some shore/wave relief for both areas. 
I saw lots of guys fishing from shore off Golden Gardens and might even try that for a few hours early Saturday trying a buzz bomb or Blue Fox Vibrax spinner I've had luck with for a hour or so.  Good luck
Title: Re: MA10
Post by: henney on October 04, 2017, 01:37:12 PM
Didn't have a single take down this morning until I was in my way in. 265FOW, 80'on the line counter, BlackJack Brad's with herring teaser, low slack.

I saw several fish netted this morning. It's not over yet!
Title: Re: MA10
Post by: maturin on December 31, 2017, 10:56:18 AM
Whats everyone targeting Jan/Feb?   Im at a loss as to what to go after...   
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Post by: snopro on December 31, 2017, 11:11:39 AM
Squid? Sea Run cutts?  Flatfish?
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Post by: JasonM on December 31, 2017, 08:58:15 PM
I'm expecting to head back to Shilshole Bay at least a few times in January and February when conditions are good. Both trolling and vertical jigging worked great on the blackmouths and by the end of January (per estimate from Trident 13) or so, I might actually get to keep one of them. Of course, the limit for retention of chinook is only one so it's not like I'll be feeding the neighborhood. My youngest daughter loves salmon, though, so she'll be happy. :)
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Post by: workhard on February 06, 2018, 09:03:58 AM
Whats everyone targeting Jan/Feb?   Im at a loss as to what to go after...

Lots of resident coho in 13. Usual spots.