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Topic: Wind - Hobie's / Paddle Kayaks  (Read 2910 times)

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smokeyangler

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I have noticed while bass fishing in my Hobie Outback and PA 14 that I fight the wind a lot more in the Hobies than the friends I fish with in their paddle kayaks. I'm constantly having to make corrections while it appears that they can hold position and pretty much just fish. Does anyone else have these issues and how do you deal with them?  They drift and want to weather cock with even a small breeze.  I'm considering selling my PA 14 and getting a paddle kayak for bass. I had a Revo 13 that was better, but would still want to move around a lot more than a paddle kayak it would seem like.
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Justin

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Any kayak that sits up higher out of the water will be pushed by the wind more.

I've learned to make small quick corrections in the outback to counter this.
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Matt M

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Also be conscious of your pedal position, they act as sails underwater if the water itself is moving.
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Mojo Jojo

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Sounds like your not in strong current .... You could always drop anchor.



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rawkfish

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It's the fact that you're in a PA. I had the same feeling in my  PA 12. I went back to my Revo and the problem was solved. I do use my paddle quite a bit more when bass fishing as opposed to any other fishing I do. I end up keeping it out and ready to use instead of it being strapped in.
                
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A guy can't have too many kayaks can he?

Buy yourself a nice paddle kayak and exercise your upper body for bass and frog water fishing. 

There is a nice OK Prowler 13 for sale here that I would highly recommend for your purchasing pleasure. 
It's a great kayak for any PNW fishing actually, and great price at that.

http://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=17814.0
 

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Dark Tuna

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Rudder position also matters when you're being pushed faster than the current.


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smokeyangler

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Thanks all for the suggestions. I think a lot of the problem is the high sides on the PA and the Outback. I'll try to pay more attention to the pedal position and anchoring is always an option. If there is any breeze it seems I'm constantly making rudder adjustments more than fishing. I almost prefer to fish in some current as it's easier to control the kayak. I'll have to look at the prowler 13's. I demoed a Big Rig and a Coosa Hd and was pretty impressed. I'd like more seat time in a paddle kayak though.
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Pinstriper

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If you just need to hold in place in quiet water but a light breeze, maybe a small sea anchor would do the trick. You could still maneuver.
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ballardbrad

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I run into the same issue in my PA 14 and Outback.  It can be challenging.  I use a half a paddle to push myself off getting blown into docks or towards shore.  Facing the wind and making adjustments can help. I've even plopped myself into the lily pads or against a dock if it's really bad.  You could always get a PowerPole. :)


Low_Sky

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I've started experimenting in my Revo 16 with a sea anchor.  In a light breeze, trolleying the sea anchor to the stern will get the boat pointed parallel to the wind direction (facing downwind).  Trolleying the sea anchor to the bow makes me drift almost broadside to the wind.    The bow of the Revo sticks up higher than the stern, which means it catches more wind.  Aerodynamics wants to push the bow downwind, and I haven't found the right fin/rudder/sea anchor position combo to overcome that. . . yet.  I'm still working on it.   

A PA is a big ol' battleship, and has lot of surface area exposed to wind.  I can see how it would be really difficult to keep in one spot without an anchor, because Hobies have no directional control without water moving over the rudder. 
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Ling Banger

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Try a hand paddle or maybe make a bigger bladed longer version of one for a PA.
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And that's all there is to it." - R.P. McMurphy


demonick

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Also remember, YOU are a sail. The higher up you sit more effective sail you make.
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hdpwipmonkey

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I keep my Backwater Paddle topside when bass fishing to make little corrections.  Its a lot less cumbersome then keeping the regular paddle on my lap.  With the Backwater hand paddle I can put it under my seat when not using it or slide it into one of the rod holders behind my seat.

http://www.backwaterpaddles.com/

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