Teaser jig setup

I don't usually use a teaser jig, but i thought i would try it tomorrow. I wanted something with no hook or lead head and not tied to the line for another abrasion point. so i came up with this simple setup.

Split ring attached to the swivel i always use 24-30 inches above the main jig.Snap swivel attached to split ring and stick the snap through the small jig, getting as much meat as you can so they don't rip it off too easy. I jiggled it around aggressively and no tangle.

Hopefully the little guys pecking at it will attract the attention of big momma Ling.....

i sometimes use the same sort of setup, except i use a hook in the teaser. it definitely works. i was using that setup when my swivel got straitened at otter rock this fall.

Add a hook to that....  if a little one grabs it an gets hooked you could always send it back down as bait, or more often than not., that big ling might just grab onto the little hooked fish and you can reel the "hitchhiker" in.   Have caught several nice hitchhikers over the years and they are always bigger lings. 

Concept is sound, but it looks like a lot of hardware to me.  I used to tie the leader to the swivel with a uni-knot and tie a hook to the tag end.  More often than not these days I don't use a swivel.  And I just use a dropper loop on the leader.

-Allen

Add a hook to that.... 

Agreed. You'd be surprised but I've actually got big lings on the teaser even though the bigger jig was right underneath.

Z

I like teasers. too, with the hook. I've used both the methods that Allen talks about, and then more recently I've been using a palomar knot a la dropshotting. I think most of the abrasion issue happens down at the jighead/iron when scraping over rocks.

Don't listen to them Roy.  I'm pretty sure Spot would agree with me on this... don't add a hook on those teasers.  Heck remove them from the main lure too.   

I like teasers. too, with the hook. I've used both the methods that Allen talks about, and then more recently I've been using a palomar knot a la dropshotting. I think most of the abrasion issue happens down at the jighead/iron when scraping over rocks.

I've had the palomar break when I was snagged up on the bottom lure and really laying some pressure on.  All you get back is the teaser tied with a palomar with no tag end .. the tag side broke "inside" the knot.  I don't think the palomar was meant to be splayed open like that.

-Allen

Allen,

I agree about the palomars, they aren't designed for that sort of treatment.  They're used a lot for tying drop shot hooks for bass fishing, but the weight below the hook is usually pretty light.

The dropper loop has been the most reliable for me and that's what you'll find on pre-tied shrimp fly rigs.

Brian

Allen,

I agree about the palomars, they aren't designed for that sort of treatment.  They're used a lot for tying drop shot hooks for bass fishing, but the weight below the hook is usually pretty light.

The dropper loop has been the most reliable for me and that's what you'll find on pre-tied shrimp fly rigs.

Brian

Yup.  I've tried a lot, and I mean A LOT, of ways of doing this and every time I come back to the dropper loop.

-Allen

I don't think the palomar was meant to be splayed open like that.

Probably not, but then I've managed to break off at the loop knot when using that method. My guess is that the tag method is probably the strongest. This year, I might play with some flies tied to a tag with a perfection loop at the end.

In any case, I still prefer to use a teaser over not using one, I definitely think it leads to more action.

Don't listen to them Roy.  I'm pretty sure Spot would agree with me on this... don't add a hook on those teasers.  Heck remove them from the main lure too.   Smiley

I like it, I like it!

Concept is sound, but it looks like a lot of hardware to me.  I used to tie the leader to the swivel with a uni-knot and tie a hook to the tag end.  More often than not these days I don't use a swivel.  And I just use a dropper loop on the leader.

-Allen

good idea on tying the leader to the swivel. yea, pretty well over thought concept on my part. That's what happens when i design stuff at 4:20.....

I don't think the palomar was meant to be splayed open like that.

Probably not, but then I've managed to break off at the loop knot when using that method. My guess is that the tag method is probably the strongest. This year, I might play with some flies tied to a tag with a perfection loop at the end.

Agree.  I'm not 100% satisfied with the dropper loop either.  But I keep going back to it because of the simplicity of it and it's better that everything else I've tried, except using the unit knot tag end on a swivel.  And it seems to be good enough ... barely.  Where's Kallitype and his knot testing?

Note that my typical rig is spectra mainline to 20 feet of leader with a uni-to-unit knot (spectra doubled over of course).  The leader goes directly to the jig du jour without any swivels whatsoever, or perhaps to a clip for quick change ability on the jig.  As I break off the leader just gets cut back.  I rarely have to retie a new leader onto the spectra during the day.

-Allen

How about a small hoochie on main line above leader swivel, pull it down on to the swivel...  Fish would proably move it around some.

How about a small hoochie on main line above leader swivel, pull it down on to the swivel...  Fish would proably move it around some.

Unless they miss the jig, then they would be chewin on your line.