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sequim salty

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I am sure that most of you got the email from kayak angler magazine that had an article on this device called a longliner but in case you didn't this looks like it would work great. For 12 bucks i get my bait down to the depth i want but 10, 20 feet away from the weight. I think i am going to get one because lots of the fish in the lakes aroung me are still pretty deep.

Here is a link:    http://www.anglerinnovations.com/pages/llvideo.aspx

doug in sequim


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Others may disagree, and they are welcome to explain why, but I'm gonna call that thing a waste of cash.

How does that get you any deeper than using an in-line banana sinker, or using the same weight they used, on a slider, as shown in Spot's springers for dummies (or newbies or something) article?

Just seems like an added piece of gear to get in the way to me.

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sequim salty

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Thanks for the lead Lee, I am going to try to find the article you mentioned. I am a newbie who sometimes is a little dumb but the great thing about this forum is you pointed me to a new option. I will start digging for the Spot article. Thanks again.

doug in sequim


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Lee

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Same article, but the one on our site has pictures of the weight setup:

http://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/index.php/page,33.html

Yeah this site rocks.  I'd still be using a planer from my SINK to fish deep if it wasn't for this site.
 


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I saw that Longliner thingy at the Sportsman's show in Puyallup this year, and was not impressed.  No real advantage over a Deep-Six or other diver, and I like Spot's simple solution.ONly disadvantage of the sinker is that you'll have its weight added to the fish's gyrations.  I like the Metzler sliding weight system best, YMMV. The Metzler system I like has a nylon tube you stick the line thru to your swivel, it has a wire that holds sinkers of various weights, I like the 4 oz best for mooching, for trolling I use a 6 or 8 oz.  Here's an interesting post I saw while googling Metzler sinkers:


If this guy has one of those bumper stickers that says, "The worst day fishing is better than the best day working" he's probably going to remove it from his car. When his line became snagged, he pulled his pole, which caused the sinker to fly through his eye socket and shatter his cheekbone

link to the X-ray:
http://boingboing.net/2005/10/07/lead-sinker-shoots-t.html
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The only real advantage of the long-liner is that it allows you to have your lure trail your weight with a leader length longer than your fishing rod.
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They do something similar on the west coast of vancouver island.  Slide an egg sinker on the line followed by an inch of surgical tubing (small kind).  Let out line while holding onto the sinker and tubing.  When you get the desired amount out, place a game peg in the tubing, which holds the tube to the line.  When you reel in, you just keep reeling when the sinker hits the tip of your rod.  It will get pushed down the line.  It helps if the sinker is rubberize or if you use a big bead in front of it so as not to scrape up your rod tip.

-Allen