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Topic: Any opinions on a Native Watercraft Ultimate 12 ?  (Read 6431 times)

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Mark Collett

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I just picked up a Native Watercraft Ultimate 12.I'have already taken it out of Deep Creek and Homer Alaska.It has a double keel which seems to make it pretty stable,an enormous amount of room inside for gear,and tracks well.I'm curious if many other folk on here have any expirence with these boats.
http://www.nativewatercraft.com/               Here is a link to check them out on their website.
So far I like the boat but I need to make a few modifications to make it more user friendly for fishing.They sell a lot of add-ons,spray skirts,pole holders,etc. so the dollars will be flying.Plus ,my wife decided she needs one also.And she hasn't even been in mine yet(unless she did on the sly)More flying dollars but,she is my best fishing buddy so it's all good .
Anyway,what are some opinions on the Ultimate ???????????
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Pisco Sicko

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I don't have any personal experience with them. I think a few members have them, and are usually using them at inland, protected locations. The big concern for exposed locations is that they aren't self-bailing. If it were my boat I would want to take it out and practice some self-rescues before I tried anything too gnarly. That make a big difference in how you see yourself (and your wife) using that model.

If you do try some self-rescues it would be great to hear your results and conclusions.


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   A friend reported a lot of hull slap with his .   Would like to hear your view / experience with that ?

Thanks
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Hull slap is minimal, since the bow cuts the waves, only a very light pitter-patter when paddling into certain sizes of wind chop. Also slapped pretty good at times going into some 1'+ chop dead into 15- 20 mph gusts at max ebb on the estuary heading downstream under the Elk River Bridge. But that was fun and I didn't care.
 On the other hand, the hull slap on my blunt-ended drift boat is really bad in any kind of chop and drives me nuts when in lakes or rowing through flat water against wind chop.  Haven't ever really noticed much annoying slap in my Ultimate 12.

I love my U-12 for exploring the local estuaries, protected bays and inlets, backwaters, lakes and lower rivers. I paddle the local tidal flux. These are great for exploring and fly fishing. I sometimes troll the rivers for salmon with mine.
They are not a good choice for going out in the open ocean or anywhere that gets rough. Can get swamped and be hard to empty in heavy chop or waves.
I have all 3 spray skirts, but seldom use the rear one (makes access to gear stowed behind me more difficult). With waders or spray pants on, I often just use the one smaller bow skirt. Both bow skirts on offers some (mainly lower) leg protection from the sun, and keeps more water out of the boat when heading into a stiff chop.
In protected waters with no chop, I often stand and cast. I also paddle mine thru the shallows standing up, so I can see deadheads when heading back downstream into the glare of the setting sun.

There's some photos of mine on page 8 (last page) of this sub-forum. I have a write-up of my "maiden voyage" here  somewhere, too. if I can find it.

I located my thru-hull transponder donut directly underneath the rear thwart behind the seat. I cut the D-rings off both sides of the rear bow skirt, as they had the annoying habit of grabbing my fly line when I was casting and retrieving while standing.

I made my own anchor trolley using lawnmower pull-cord, since it doesn't stretch and get sloppy.

I'm not selling mine, and might get another, perhaps a 14.5' tandem.

Any questions, go ahead and ask.
« Last Edit: May 19, 2011, 12:42:56 PM by ConeHeadMuddler »
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Lets see if I can still post a link! Here's a couple of threads where i made posts about my U-12 over on WashingtonFlyFishing.com, in the "Watercraft" forum:

http://www.washingtonflyfishing.com/board/showthread.php/48682-Native-Ultimate-12

http://www.washingtonflyfishing.com/board/showthread.php/48768-Native-12-Maiden-Voyage
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