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Topic: Is this idea crazy?  (Read 3840 times)

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jgrady

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Ive set up a fish finder on my sit in side kayak,Would it be crazy to put in a Bildge pump too?then if I took on a bit of water as happens at time as Im running a rapid or take a wave over the bow,I have a skirt but really don't like to use it..Ive already put more flotation inside the hull ,Im Already got a 12volt battrey for the fish finder .SO Im I Crazy?? it would be way faster than a hand pump..


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I have a skirt but really don't like to use it

I don't like to use my skirt either, but it pays the bills. Lol
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It depends on the pump.  I think some require an inch or 2 of water before they start pumping.  You could also get one without a float and manually turn it on and off. 
 


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I think you would be replacing something that is pretty bulletproof with something that is finicky and as likely to create problems as solve them. I would stick with a hand pump. If you do get an electric then make sure you carry a hand pump in case it fails.


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Search bilge pumps here on site. About 3 years ago one of our elder hobie drivers installed one on his outback or revo in a somewhat permanent installation. Same idea should work for you.

Never trust something electronic to be working correctly in an emergency on the water. Stuff gets finicky and acting weird when exposed to water for some reason.
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I have never experienced what it feels like when water has infiltrated into a SOT while afloat.   For anyone who has, when did you know and how much had gotten in before you knew ??
I have to admit I had toyed around with the thought of installing an automatic bilge pump, but knew I would have to carry a manual pump as a backup anyway.   I am still thinking of installing a "Water Intrusion Alarm" which would let me know via a piezo sounder when even a small amount of water has gotten in.  Would weigh just a few ounces and simple enough to build.   
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I don't think you get a "bit of water" when taking a wave over the bow or running a rapid.  I think there is the distinct possibility of getting 50 gallons dumped in your lap.  On a SOT, most of that goes over the side the rest drains through the scupper plugs in a matter of seconds.

Contrast that with a 500 GPH pump.  It would take a full 6 minutes to drain your SIK.  That's far too long to have that much water in your kayak in the conditions that would have put that much water in your kayak in the first place.

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I have never experienced what it feels like when water has infiltrated into a SOT while afloat.   For anyone who has, when did you know and how much had gotten in before you knew ??
I have to admit I had toyed around with the thought of installing an automatic bilge pump, but knew I would have to carry a manual pump as a backup anyway.   I am still thinking of installing a "Water Intrusion Alarm" which would let me know via a piezo sounder when even a small amount of water has gotten in.  Would weigh just a few ounces and simple enough to build.

That sounds like a nice idea. I would prefer to have a simple (manual) pump but an electronic alarm is quite interesting. I like the way you think!


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I don't think you get a "bit of water" when taking a wave over the bow or running a rapid.  I think there is the distinct possibility of getting 50 gallons dumped in your lap.  On a SOT, most of that goes over the side the rest drains through the scupper plugs in a matter of seconds.

Contrast that with a 500 GPH pump.  It would take a full 6 minutes to drain your SIK.  That's far too long to have that much water in your kayak in the conditions that would have put that much water in your kayak in the first place.

-Allen
yesI do know what a bit of water is as I said I have been in the ocean at shelter cove in this same( Sit IN side ).Kayak I should say I've also built alot of boats Large and small ,First was a Pram.at age 8 .My thought was to put in a pump that I could turn on and off with a switch,as its Hard to Hand pump and keep paddling at the same time ,also an elect pump could empty the water much faster than a Hand pump.and yes I think carrying a hand pump is a good idea too.I am thinking of building a SOT kayak ,But Im not at my dads and I's shop now,so Not sure I have the time to build..


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I'm not saying that you don't know what a bit of water is.  What I am saying is that a "bit of water" and "taking a wave over the bow or running a rapid" does not resolve itself in my mind.  When I think of those situations, I think of a lot more than a bit of water.  So just so we're clear, how many gallons is a bit of water to you?

I don't think it is safe to have your spray skirt off and relying on having a pump (electric or manual) to clear the water.  The whole goal should be to avoid the situation of getting the water in your kayak in the first place.

-Allen


 

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