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Topic: Tactics and Rod/Reel recomendations  (Read 2928 times)

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  • Location: Kent, Wa.
  • Date Registered: Sep 2013
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Hey all,
New to saltwater as well as kayak fishing here and I'm wondering whether I would be better off to start jigging or mooching from my kayak. I want to hit the water this fall and be able to fish through the winter, usually around Three Tree Point and maybe Browns point areas. I am leaning toward starting with a jigging setup then buying mooching setup in the spring (I can't afford both at the same time). Am I going in the right direction or should I go about it the other way around? Can I get some recommendations for decent "budget" rod and reel for both (don't have a lot of $ to spend. For jigging, what jigs work best and in what weights. Sorry so many questions, just want to get started right.
-Josh


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I think learning to fish the area first is more necessary than spending money on exactly what you want.
As my buddy always says. It could be the bow, it could be the arrow, but most likely it's the Indian.
 What species are you going after?
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Hey Josh........Josh here. I am pretty new to this as well. With getting a new kayak and all that I was on such a budget too. I found a Penn 360GT combo for a little over $100 new, spooled it with 50lb and it works great for everything I have used it for, also I have an heavy duty older ugly stick setup with 35lb. You will find that the tackle is what is exspensive as you get into it. The Lancer jigs and berkley gulps are big for the bottom fish. I'm not a master salmon fisher on the bigger rivers so can't really help you there. There are plenty of people on here that will get you started in the right direction, I have learned a vast amount of knowledge just by reading the posts. I would not overkill on you first setup because you will soon find lots of other important esentials you will be jonesing to get as you get more experience (trust me) since April I have sold my prized dirtbike and invested it into my new addiction. Definately buy top grade saftey equipment! PDF w/ knife attached, etc. oh.......tether evreything you can, especially you fishing poles  :o
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  • Location: Kent, Wa.
  • Date Registered: Sep 2013
  • Posts: 10
I think learning to fish the area first is more necessary than spending money on exactly what you want.
As my buddy always says. It could be the bow, it could be the arrow, but most likely it's the Indian.
 What species are you going after?
Thanks. Should have specified. Salmon of all species at this point. Maybe bottom fish as well. But Salmon is the main target.


  • Location: Kent, Wa.
  • Date Registered: Sep 2013
  • Posts: 10
Hey Josh........Josh here. I am pretty new to this as well. With getting a new kayak and all that I was on such a budget too. I found a Penn 360GT combo for a little over $100 new, spooled it with 50lb and it works great for everything I have used it for, also I have an heavy duty older ugly stick setup with 35lb. You will find that the tackle is what is exspensive as you get into it. The Lancer jigs and berkley gulps are big for the bottom fish. I'm not a master salmon fisher on the bigger rivers so can't really help you there. There are plenty of people on here that will get you started in the right direction, I have learned a vast amount of knowledge just by reading the posts. I would not overkill on you first setup because you will soon find lots of other important esentials you will be jonesing to get as you get more experience (trust me) since April I have sold my prized dirtbike and invested it into my new addiction. Definately buy top grade saftey equipment! PDF w/ knife attached, etc. oh.......tether evreything you can, especially you fishing poles  :o
Thanks for the reply. This is helpful. I am good on the kayak equipment as I have been paddling for years, just not fishing from them. Any advice I can get on the fishing side of it will help. Thanks again.


  • Location: Kent, Wa.
  • Date Registered: Sep 2013
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to add specifics to my needs I will be fishing almost exclusively Puget Sound for salmon of all species. As fall and winter are rolling in what I understand is, that it's mostly Blackmouth in the sound and they hang near bottom, so just suggestions as to whether jigging or mooching will be a more effective way to get a hook near a fish this fall/winter. Are there still  silvers near the surface during these seasons? Again, I really don't know and am just looking to get started the right way, or in other words, I am a young Indian looking for a Bow and Arrow that will make it easier to start on target. :)
-Josh


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I'd say mooching, and get a rod that will allow you to troll with a downrigger or diver as well as jig.  The right setup can do all three really well.

Example would be Shimano Talora rated for planer/DR in 8 feet or longer with a reliable line counter reel.

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  • Location: Kent, Wa.
  • Date Registered: Sep 2013
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I'd say mooching, and get a rod that will allow you to troll with a downrigger or diver as well as jig.  The right setup can do all three really well.

Example would be Shimano Talora rated for planer/DR in 8 feet or longer with a reliable line counter reel.

Sent from my GD300
Perfect. Exactly what I am looking for. What action would you look for in a rod? Fast, moderate, somewhere in between?


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Well I use a shimano scimatar, 8-6 medium heavy. If I may roll my kayak in the surf or break it being snagged up I have an ugly stick and a 7-6 tolora.
Standard for  salt water salmon is a abu garcia c-3 with a stout rod doesn't matter the brand. I would just advise depending on how long your arms are and if you're going to net your own fish something not to long for the kayak. Rod length plus leader length is how far a way the fish will be from your net hand.

If you have a yak and want to go out fishing some time let me know I live semi close.
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I would just advise depending on how long your arms are and if you're going to net your own fish something not to long for the kayak. Rod length plus leader length is how far a way the fish will be from your net hand.

I'd suggest that it's leader length - (arm length + rod length).  I know that high sticking aint sexy but it'll sure puts the fish within netting distance.
I like something in the 8'6" to 9'6" range because of the action and ability to compensate for rapid changes in direction. I also like to avoid pinning my line in the front toggle when a salmon decides to dive under my yak.

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I'd suggest that it's leader length - (arm length + rod length).

Yep! Or arm length + rod length - leader length. I think there are situations/rods where "high sticking" (lol) would not be optimal, but for anything with a reasonably soft tip it's the way to go.


 

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