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Topic: Boat seat rail suggestions.  (Read 3476 times)

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Widgeonmangh

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Duck killin is about over, and starting to think about what I am going to do to make my kayak fishing better this next year.  Working on the seat is my next plan. Thought I would tap into the collective to see if there were some thoughts on a good way to rig. 

Wavewalk kayaks are somewhat unique in that they have a large saddle that allows you to move forward and backward adjusting your center of gravity for different conditions.  The boat wants to track into to the wind if you are sitting with even just the slightest bit weight forward.  This is a good thing unless you are paddling down wind, in which case you scoot back and it is then front light and does a better job of keeping the wind at your back.  Basically it acts like a weather vane.

In addition it is useful depending on what you are doing to be able to scoot forward and backward such as deploying the down rigger etc.

So here is my challenge.  Without any seat you get quite saddle sore. Foam pads, extra lifejacket, stadium seat etc. and a day of trolling on American lake and my back knows I have had a workout.

What I would like is a seat /rail/roller/track system that I could attach to maybe a 1"x 8" that could sit in the kayak which would allow me to move my seat up to  4' smoothly so I can adjust easily/smoothly on the fly. 

Any thought on products that I might employ?

Here is a picture of the Wavewalk so you have an idea what I am talking about.



Probably add a seat like this.



Any ideas out there?
« Last Edit: January 20, 2015, 07:05:32 AM by Widgeonmangh »
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As a quick thought......I would be inclined to use the seat you show above (assuming it fit's inside the hull rails) and configure a couple of rails to the center section, that once rollers are mounted under the seat would roll/slide on. 
This would allow you to move/scoot the seat fore and aft.
A simple "L bracket" on either side would keep the seat on the rails.....like the scheme a roller coaster uses......and then install a "quick pin" on the seat that would drop into the crosswise slots, in the center section to keep the seat in place....you would have positive fore/aft seat locations, based on the molded in spacing of the crosswise slots, in the center section.


Widgeonmangh

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I think I see what you mean. :)  I am looking at rollers and rails for things like garage door openers and snooping around for industrial cabinet rollers that kind of thing.  I think it will some how involve a channel and roller situation.

I have had more conversations at hardware stores that start like " Well actually I am going to use it on...."  :)
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newprincipal

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i tend to think off the rails a bit...

what if you took the manual seat rails from an old car?  Mounted the slide system, then fabed up a braked for a regular kayak seat?  may not get the entire tunnel of movement, but you wouldget quite a bit.

Ive also seen a slide system in drift boats that allow passengers to slide port to starboard...just mount that system sideways.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2015, 08:24:17 PM by newprincipal »


Widgeonmangh

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I don't think they would be long enough.  But I need to measure to see exactly how long I need.  I am figuring at least 36+ inches.

Will be a fun project.
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  I just saw a video on FB about Whitehall Rowing and Sail that had a sliding seat set-up. I can't put up a link but you can google it to find their web-site.
  Looked like it might work for your boat.
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what about the sliding seat sytem from from a rowing skull?


Widgeonmangh

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interesting idea.  Not sure what the cost on one of those puppies would be?!  But that line of thinking got me looking and I found this.

A guy used skateboard wheels and an installed rail.  hmmmm,  I might be able to modify it (size etc) to accomplish what I am looking for and could be cheap.
I could also just lift it out for transport.  In my instance I would need everything under the seat and no wider than the saddle and I would probably use smaller wheels, but it has some potential.



« Last Edit: January 22, 2015, 06:15:43 AM by Widgeonmangh »
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Widgeonmangh

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I am actually starting to look on Craigslist for an old rowing machine.  The right one and a sawsall might just do the trick. :laugh:
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Widgeonmangh

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WHAT A FIND!!!! This will fit the bill nicely.  I have a message into the company now trying to determine the width.  It almost appears that it will be perfect to just sit on top of the saddle and screw it down.  If that is the case it will be just what I was looking for.  In addition, if it works as advertised, I will offer it as an option!

This is why I post questions like this on the forum.  There are all sorts of solutions but trying to find just the right one, well that can be the challenge.  Price is not to shabby either.

Thanks for the find. I will keep you updated when I order one! 8)
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glad we could help.


 

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