Wynoochee

Ha. I can see that happening on that river. Too many rats in one cage. I like rivers that roar so loud that yelling is pointless. I've never had issues with pro guides and they're the usually the only ones running big water.

Yeah,  it's always some dude in a piece of crap that doesn't look safe in the first place,  or a drunkin bank fisher. But 99% of people are actually nice.