Fishing followed by recovery clinic in Portland

Who wants to do a fishing trip at PC in the am followed by a recovery clinic closer to shore out of the breakers after so we are not fresh out the box while re-entering. If some one can get me info on the dory charters I will see how much they want to have a boat stand by for an hour or so unless someone here can bring a zodiac in which case I think we can take up a collection for the gas for the boat and the tow rigs tank to have it there. Anyone interested?

Kodiaks are bears.  Zodiacs are boats.

After huli'ing twice this weekend I could use some ah-ssis-tahnce with proper surf landing tech-ni-queue.  That said a trip to PC probably isn't in the cards until August/September, if at all.

Kodiaks are bears.  Zodiacs are boats.

And my smart phone really ain't that smart when I comes to correcting my spelling thanks for noticing corrected it but obviously you knew what I ment

My suggestion would be to skip reentry practice in the Ocean and instead move it to another cold body of water. I think you will gain a lot more from the repetition of doing reentry 10-15 times in a more controlled environment than 3-5 times in the salt. It will allow you to refine your technique and get the muscle memory dialed into your brain. I also don't like the idea of a bunch of flailing bodies in the water in the same area that others have seen the landlord.

A year or two ago someone mentioned Sand Lake as having suitable water for practicing reentry, deep enough but not subject to wave/tidal action.  I seem to remember that a practice session was done then by some folks.  Anyone familiar with that?

A suggestion:  If you're going to participate in the recovery clinic, wear exactly what you normally wear when kayak fishing in the ocean in cool weather.  If you normally wear a fishing vest over your life vest and have a camera hanging around your neck, wear all of them.  If you normally wear waders or a dry suit, wear the same thing.  It'll be educational.  You may learn things which you won't learn if you practice re-entering your kayak wearing only a swim suit.

A second suggestion:  Learn how to re-enter your kayak without a ladder, foot loops, paddle float, or any other equipment.  Your objective should be to learn how to turn your kayak upright and get back into it in under 20 seconds.  I have seen videos showing how to use various kinds of self rescue equipment which were fairly painful to watch, as the narrator flounders around in the water for 5 or ten minutes fooling around with rescue equipment before finally crawling back into the kayak.  Re-entering a sit-on-top kayak doesn't require much strength, and it doesn't require any extra equipment.  You just need to learn proper technique.

A third suggestion:  Learn how to re-enter your kayak without help from other kayakers.  If you end up in the water, there may not be several other helpful kayakers right next to you.

A fourth suggestion:  Learn how to help another kayaker get back into a sit-on-top kayak.  You may encounter a kayaker who has ended up in the water and is too overweight, weak, and/or hypothermic to get themselves back into their kayak.

A fifth suggestion:  Learn how to help another kayaker get back into a sit-inside kayak and remove water from a sit-inside kayak, which is much harder than getting back onto a sit-on-top kayak.  Even if everybody you know paddles sit-on-top kayaks, you may encounter a sit-inside kayaker who has ended up in the water and has no clue what to do next.

A sixth suggestion:  Learn how to re-enter your kayak without any fishing equipment on it.  Once you've learned how, load up your kayak with all your fishing equipment, just the way you normally have it outfitted, put out a couple of fishing lines, dump it over, and practice righting it and getting back in.  This will really be educational.  Practice this in clear water with a clean bottom so if you lose some gear, you can try to recover it.  If you have lines out, remember to right the kayak the opposite of the way it went over, so you won't wrap lines all of the way around the kayak. In other words, if you roll the kayak over clockwise, roll it back up counter-clockwise.

My suggestion would be to skip reentry practice in the Ocean and instead move it to another cold body of water. I think you will gain a lot more from the repetition of doing reentry 10-15 times in a more controlled environment than 3-5 times in the salt. It will allow you to refine your technique and get the muscle memory dialed into your brain. I also don't like the idea of a bunch of flailing bodies in the water in the same area that others have seen the landlord.

Sand lake is close but I for one will want to do it in the ocean after  as I have done it in the lake and it's way harder for me to get my legs out from under the yak with the tide and current but do think trying it over and over with the big toothed gray fish in the area may be a bad idea.

If you are getting pulled under your boat by current and don't have the ability to overcome those conditions move to the other side of the boat. The current will stretch you out away from your boat and make it easier to get in.

With that said I do not think some one should be out on the ocean if they can not re enter their kayak in under 30 seconds. Period!

BTW ... I wouldn't worry about sharks. There are surfers in the water almost every day during the summer.

With that said I do not think some one should be out on the ocean if they can not re enter their kayak in under 30 seconds. Period!

+1

That makes perfect sense and seems like a good rule of thumb...seems a bit reckless to be out there without knowing you can re-enter quickly.

That's exactly why it needs to be practiced specifically for me and anyone else that hasn't done it before or even this year so unless you want to join in on a day out to practice please save the safety rant for later or another thread I'm trying to see who else wants to practice and hope some of the seasoned veterans here will join in for demonstration and support. You can't tell someone to not go out if they can't get back in unless ,1 you can every time, 2 your willing to help them learn, 3 no for a fact that that person can not accomplish it ever. If I can't get it down I won't be going out till I do, so instead of telling me not to go , tell me when your available to come out and help the new guys learn how, and by the way I had a fishing pole hooked to my boot about 30 feet under water keeping me from floating out to kick in, the line snapped off after Del helped pull me part way back up.

That's exactly why it needs to be practiced specifically for me and anyone else that hasn't done it before or even this year so unless you want to join in on a day out to practice please save the safety rant for later or another thread I'm trying to see who else wants to practice and hope some of the seasoned veterans here will join in for demonstration and support. You can't tell someone to not go out if they can't get back in unless ,1 you can every time, 2 your willing to help them learn, 3 no for a fact that that person can not accomplish it ever. If I can't get it down I won't be going out till I do, so instead of telling me not to go , tell me when your available to come out and help the new guys learn how, and by the way I had a fishing pole hooked to my boot about 30 feet under water keeping me from floating out to kick in, the line snapped off after Del helped pull me part way back up.

=) I think I just got called out for a safety rant! Ain't that cute .....
Mr. Potato,
You need to take a deep breath and calm down. You have over 400 posts in four months. A little less talking and a little more listening would serve you well. Watch a few YouTube videos, practice on the lake until you know you can get back on your boat every time then practice in the salt.
And yes I am quite sure I can get back on my boat evey time.

Just remember we all do this for fun and everything is going to be OK.

That's exactly why it needs to be practiced specifically for me and anyone else that hasn't done it before or even this year so unless you want to join in on a day out to practice please save the safety rant for later or another thread I'm trying to see who else wants to practice and hope some of the seasoned veterans here will join in for demonstration and support. You can't tell someone to not go out if they can't get back in unless ,1 you can every time, 2 your willing to help them learn, 3 no for a fact that that person can not accomplish it ever. If I can't get it down I won't be going out till I do, so instead of telling me not to go , tell me when your available to come out and help the new guys learn how, and by the way I had a fishing pole hooked to my boot about 30 feet under water keeping me from floating out to kick in, the line snapped off after Del helped pull me part way back up.

=) I think I just got called out for a safety rant! Ain't that cute .....
Mr. Potato,
You need to take a deep breath and calm down. You have over 400 posts in four months. A little less talking and a little more listening would serve you well. Watch a few YouTube videos, practice on the lake until you know you can get back on your boat every time then practice in the salt.
And yes I am quite sure I can get back on my boat evey time.

Just remember we all do this for fun and everything is going to be OK.

After having seen a few of them on here that's what there called isn't it? I'm not at all worked up or upset , if I'm calling you out it's to be on the water in hopes you want to show up and help the guys that haven't done it get it down so fun don't go south real quick. I have got back in my boat four times in a row in under 45 seconds in the lake after paddling around for a while and while wearing a thick cotton hoody to add extra weight. Real different in the salt with a hook holding your foot down. So don't take it the wrong way I'm just saying chime in here if you want to help the problem not just explain it cuz it's obvious. 

Ps: I have read over 4000 posts, and I didn't see a response to # 3?

Whew. Jojo has way more tolerance for condescension than I do!