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no_oil_needed

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Anyone use this line? I just ordered a couple spools, and I have read that the breaking strength is much higher than the rating (some say by 50%) but the diameter is the same as other lines for the rating which means you might be able to size down. It's also supposed to be more abrasion resistant and good knot strength. The only thing worrying me is that with so much going for it, why is it not more popular?
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Do you think that they have a secret formula or some process nobody else has discovered, or are they just so economical that nobody is going to hold them to their word?
Unless you are targeting a species where the stretch of mono is a clear advantage, why not fish a braid? Casting issue?
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I think all modern monos are pretty good. Just depends what characteristics are most important to you. 
The softer the mono is better for casting the stiffer stuff is more abrasion resident. 
You don't hear much about which mono is better because no one really cares.
Any 30 pound mono will work just fine for albacore.


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You don't hear much about which mono is better because no one really cares.


There's got to be at least one person out there who is weirdly passionate about their mono of choice  :D
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You don't hear much about which mono is better because no one really cares.


There's got to be at least one person out there who is weirdly passionate about their mono of choice  :D
I think that most people that spool full reels with mono have a brand they like and just continue to use that brand.
Personally I am a fan of Maxima Ultra Green. 
If you want to find heated debates about mono get on a warm water forum and talk to the big game guys. Mostly the San Diego guys.


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Any 30 pound mono will work just fine for albacore.

Not on a reel that only holds 150 yards of it.  ;)

Don't get me wrong, I think braid is awesome for a lot of applications, but it is absolutely the wrong line for live bait fishing albacore on a boat with more than one person hooked up.
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Any 30 pound mono will work just fine for albacore.

Not on a reel that only holds 150 yards of it.  ;)

Don't get me wrong, I think braid is awesome for a lot of applications, but it is absolutely the wrong line for live bait fishing albacore on a boat with more than one person hooked up.
I completely agree that mono is best for live baiting albacore ... don't think many guys do that from their kayaks.

How much line do you think you need on a live bait reel?
I have only been once and I doubt I ever had a run longer than 75 yrds.


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Personally I am a fan of Maxima Ultra Green. 

Yup, Me too!
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How much line do you think you need on a live bait reel?
I've had fish hit the bait with 75+ yards of line out before the first run. Add that to your 75 yards the albacore can run out and you're at 150 yards. That's just the line you will have off the reel. I do not like going deep into my spool because the drag increases considerably as the diameter of the line on the spool decreases, so I like to stay on the top 80% of the spool (80-100% of the line on the spool) which gives me a reserve in case I get hit by the 35 pounder. The top 80% is roughly 200 yards left on the spool. That puts you at 350 yards. That neglects any additional line you might need for line breaks or cuts for tangles.
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I'm no pro, but i've tuna fished a few times and ran only braid with live bait (minus the topshot/leader) and never had an issue even with all four guys aboard hooked up simultaneously + running around doing the albie shuffle.


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+1 on braid plus top shot of 10-20'. I guess if you're on a big party style charter with 20+ lines in the water mono would help avoid tangles. Or you could just be the one guy running braid and everyone else can just kiss your ass while you burn through all their line with a hot fish. You'll still land yours [emoji12]
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Braid is all I run on my PB when hunting longfins.   Well, mostly braid.  Most of my troll sticks have 100' of mono topshot over the braid, LB setups have about 5' of fluoro on top, swimbaits have about 5' as well.  Common denominator is braid on all. 

Never had a tangle that sawed through over the course of many multiples.  Now if you start mixing in mono spooled rigs with braid, you're going to have a problem.  Especially if the crew isn't adept in doing the tuna shuffle.  One short run on the braided rig while against the mono and the braid is going to win. 

The vast majority of my mono spooled reels carry the Maxima Ultra too.  Been pretty reliable over the years, but I wouldn't say I'm fanatical about it.  Have some with Ande, Berkley Trilene, Stren, Momois, etc.   Heck, some have mono that I have no idea what it is.  Probably time to strip those ones.    ;D