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by jed
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Topic: Kayak for BC / WA Coast?  (Read 8515 times)

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bsteves

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You don't need much maneuverability in the open ocean.    If you had plans to fish in narrow rivers or small lakes, a long boat is a pain to turn.  In the ocean, length is nice.

Regarding the rudder, it's not really meant for steering, so don't count on it for extra maneuverability.  In fact, even with a rudder, you should use your paddle stroke to steer.  So why bother with a rudder?  You want a rudder to help you go straight.  In a long kayak, going straight is generally easier than a shorter kayak. However, a longer kayak is also more susceptible to weather cocking (i.e getting pushed around by a wind across your beam).  Having a rudder to offset the force of the wind allows you to paddle straight using a normal paddle stroke.  Without a rudder you have to paddle extra hard on one side the whole time, which can be annoying if you have a few more miles ahead of you.

TL;DR...  it's nice to have a rudder on long kayaks in the ocean
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Thanks, bsteeves.

Was thinking the same thing about maneuverabilty in the open water, but nice to hear it from someone with more open ocean experience. And yes, the rudder sounds like a smart move due to the high winds up this way.

Paddling hard on one side all day to keep on track is exhausting, this I know from my time on the large lakes out East.

Definitely leaning more toward the 4.7 now.

Thanks everyone. Great info.






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You don't need much maneuverability in the open ocean.    If you had plans to fish in narrow rivers or small lakes, a long boat is a pain to turn.  In the ocean, length is nice.

Regarding the rudder, it's not really meant for steering, so don't count on it for extra maneuverability.  In fact, even with a rudder, you should use your paddle stroke to steer.  So why bother with a rudder?  You want a rudder to help you go straight.  In a long kayak, going straight is generally easier than a shorter kayak. However, a longer kayak is also more susceptible to weather cocking (i.e getting pushed around by a wind across your beam).  Having a rudder to offset the force of the wind allows you to paddle straight using a normal paddle stroke.  Without a rudder you have to paddle extra hard on one side the whole time, which can be annoying if you have a few more miles ahead of you.

TL;DR...  it's nice to have a rudder on long kayaks in the ocean

Cool B. SBD in NorCal always talks about how great the rudder on his Kraken is on the ocean. Now I get it. Thanks for the info.
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