Official 2015 Oregon Rockfish Classic Announcment

not working, never had this problem before. i`ll call the store to register. thanks to all for putting this on.

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 dampaiter,

 You are not the only one having trouble with this "new and improved" registration. I click the link to Next Adventure , no problem, I see and check the drop down for number of participants ,no problem, I see the faint calendar and use the arrows to go to July ,no problem , however.......when I try to click on July 11th , a problem. It (July 11th) is  only on screen for a millisecond then disappears and I can't continue with my registration. I have tried multiple times and still can't proceed and I'm not happy.
 So I have ben wondering if we could possibly have a registration sticky on NWKA's homepage rather than going through NA's site ? If that would be too much of a problem to do then I will keep trying to register through NA's site.
I really don't want to make the 300 mile round trip to Portland and have to do this in person at Next Adventure. I hope there is a more simple way to make this happen.
                 Mark

I was able to replicate the problem in Internet Explorer.  If you guys are still using IE you should switch to Chrome.  No one is going to continue supporting IE, not even microsoft.

Sometimes this reservation software is finicky on IE or on comps with out of date flash, you can always stop by the paddle sports center or call in to register. By using this software(whether signed up online or through the store) however we get more accurate and easier to use participant lists and confirmations, which in turn will make check in/weigh in much easier and more efficient on the day of the event.

Everyone involved in the planning of this year ORC really appreciates your patience as we get this running. I can't promise that everything will go smoothly, but I can promise that we can all go fishing, have some beer and a good time, and give something back to HOW and neighbors for kids.

There's obviously a lot of passion for this event and everything it represents, and while Next is helping quite a bit, at the end of the day it's still just a handful of kayak anglers trying to put it together that share your passion. As we get things nailed down we will continue to update this thread.

Thank You,
Tanner

thats it crash thanks! i did the chrome and i think i`m good now.

I like you guys & I don't want to go tit for tat with anyone on this discussion. I'd prefer to have a good time. I very much appreciate Next Adventure's support & certainly don't want to drive anyone away. Although I've done it myself & it may seem amusing at the time, the use of mild sarcasm when addressing questions can sometimes be perceived as fanning the flames. I shouldn't have to explain why.

I see nothing wrong with asking for more transparency & I'm not adverse to helping with planning & implementation when the need arises, especially if asked to do so early on. I know there are other long time members who feel the same way. Perhaps if the work got spread around a little more & interested members could be mentored into the inner workings of this event it wouldn't be such a burden for the ones who take responsibility for planning & implementation. It's a little late for that for this year. I would also hesitate to disparage the efforts of anyone who chooses to contribute, including those who invest no small amount of time & energy on organizing meals. Sorry if I seem a little grumpy. It's been a long day at work.

Is one of the ways to win with a Barbie pole? I'm going to fish exclusively with them!

  There have been a lot of great suggestions and ideas shared on this thread so far and I hope they continue. That is how we all can grow and become better . I get the feeling that a few toes may have been stepped on and I hope that will not discourage participation from anyone.
  We all need to keep the communication flowing. If that means you have said or promised a certain idea or thought or bit of information then follow through with what you have offered. Don't make promises you're not going to keep. That doesn't do anyone any good.

 Some of the suggestions I especially like

 Snopro's idea of delegating winners based on the different specie of fish. I think that could be a welcome addition to the competition.

 Paul's thought on more transparency is outstanding. Not all decisions made need to be aired in public... but some decisions demand an explanation. Make it happen.

 Tanner's honesty about getting folks registered to make things easier at weigh-in and just having a good time with like minded folks was refreshing and correct.

 Brian's thoughts on bettering communication between NWKA and Next Adventure. As well as his saying to not be burning bridges . That needed to be said. And clarification of changes will only help us all. And I agree that we all need to be giving Next Adventure a huge thank-you for all the work they put into making ORC a success.

 Lauren's thought's on justifying price increases. And asking for the rules, boundaries , and waivers. There are always new people to ORC that don't have a clue. Sure they can search past threads but people are lazy or don't make the time to do their homework.

 Allen's idea about viewing Next Adventure as a partner in this endeavor. They are certainly a big part of ORC. And that demands acknowledgement.

 Craig, Mojo ,and Andrews comments on this tournament being an NWKA event. I will agree that to be the case. And more information should be here -- not on a facebook page.

 Lee, Dave and Jeff's comment about the increase in price and how that has been promised to be explained. That hasn't happened yet-- maybe it will.. maybe it won't.

 And to Tanner and CJ-- thank-you for the work you are putting into ORC. A lot of your teasing us with things to come are a bit irritating but it will all work out eventually. At least we all hope so. Keep working with us all... w all want ORC to  be the best it can be. Appreciate that you are listening .

 And to the many "new guys "" coming to ORC 2015 welcome. I'd recommend going through past years ORC threads to learn about boundaries, rules, suggested gear, proper protocall for Depoe Bay and other answers to questions you may have. I know I have gone back and read an re-read all the posts about past ORC's. Lots of worth while information even if it does take some time and effort.

 Oregon Rockfish Classic is a great event. Lots of  great people, awesome food, super competition with fellow kayakers, and good times at Chinook Bend both before and after the actual competition. The prizes are just icing on the cake and that includes the Captain's Bags. If you are on the fence about coming to ORC---- make it happen. You won't be sorry--- you'll be anxiously waiting for the next one.......

                                          Mark

 

Mark,

Thanks for a great recap.  It really does a great job gleaning the current concerns and a plan forward, particularly for next year.

I think somewhere I have a Google map of the ORC boundaries.  I'll double check to see if they are still valid and make adjustments if needed.  I can then present the Google Map here on the forum, give it to Next for their site, and offer some data files that can be uploaded onto at least Lowrance and probably Humminbird plotters.   

Mark - that was a great recap. 

FWIW, at this point I'm leaning towards skipping this year's ORC.  Not because of anything coming out of this thread, but I'm tripple booked for that weekend.  My older boy desperatley wants to go to a summer camp where they'll teach him how to make his own bow and arrows.  That's July 10-12, and they require an adult to be with each kid.  My wife's cousin is also putting a new roof on his house, and that cousin has helped us out in the past so we owe it to them to help out when they ask.  That is set for July 11.  ORC is July 11.  I can't be in 3 places at once.  As much as I REALLY want to go to ORC again, I'm not sure I can justify disappointing my boy and the extended family in order to go.

Plus, my wife sweetened the pot by suggesting that I take my older daughter deer hunting in the fall to make up for skipping ORC. 

I've still got some time to make up my mind, but I'd put the odds of making ORC this year at less than 50% right now.

Even if I don't go, whoever does step up to run the taco feed can feel free to ask me for advice and assistance between now and then.

I was unable to register on my IPhone today.

I was unable to register on my iPhone and a windows 8 PC. Will try when I fly home.

Myself and a bunch of NCKA travel as far as 1200 miles some further to fish and hangout at this great event every year along with a bunch of other NCKA members. I think it's a great event.  I also wanted to win it as a Hobie Team member and fish Worlds and win a new Hobie. Now it's not a qualifier, no boat for the winner and the price went up and everyone seems all pissed off.  .

I have to be honest, compared to last year and what's offered this year, I see this event as it stands as a huge mismanagement of resources, price increase, no world qualifier and no real cash or boat as a prize. Well some look at it and go, "it's just a great get together with friends." Yes, that is true too but at $50 plus all the travel expenses for guys like me and others to get up there is hundreds of dollars. Is it worth it...

Anyway, A little about me. I am a business owner. I spent a large amount of time as a Sacramento 2030 member, organizing charity events: concerts, golf tourneys and crab and lobster feeds. I am also currently a tourney director within NCKA, both salt and fresh for a few years now. I love it. I've seen all types of tourney formulas, dealt with tons of sponsors and every tourney I've ever ran was a non profit event and truly uninfluenced by any company, a true club for the members event. Sure all the events had sponsors but non pulling the strings. So what you guys may have here in my opinion, is a tourney ran by some club members for a company through your club, not a club member running a tourney for the club members, a bad thing, no not really. But you have to look at it at a business perspective now and what's best for the puppet master? They want exposure, ROI and a possible write off, every company does, it's just business. And from what I've seen this business takes good care of your club. They most likely want a HOW 501c and it make sense. NA gets the write off and HOW gets some funds, great… what about the club guys who want to win some cash or a boat for the increased $50 admission they shell'd out? Won't happen the way it's set up now, the way it's always been run.  I reckon it might be time for change! hauckting.

You guys can fix it and more. Here's how in my opinion, everyone can win and this mind you is my 2cents, grain of salt… 

OK the formula
-100 guys give or take @ $50 ( little steep $$ but we'll make it work) = $5000 low ball

- Bunch of product donated by manufacturers/ sponsors of NA to be given away. No, stop! Raffle time!

 - Let's raffle it all off. $5 a ticket, individual ticket collection boxes per item so anglers can CHOOSE what they want to win. I have done a raffle at all of my events and have raised thousands of dollars for charity. Mine were a little different with no collection boxes, just a general raffle. Actually Eric Stockwell the GS director has really figured it out. His idea of using the ticket collection boxes seems to be the best method for both the anglers and funds generated.  Give Me Shelter tourney last weekend, their raffle with maybe 15 items collected nearly $4000! Anyways It works, well!

- Now all this raffle money goes to the HOW charity and for expenses (potluck items, ice, whatever). Also NA gets their 501c write-off  cause it's in there best interest. Both are happy.

- Now, what about the $5000 from angler admissions.  Well take half of that and purchase a nice new Hobie from NA, ahhh now they have sales too and are super happy  . Give it away as a raffle item. One ticket per angler included in each angler grab bag - this will also increase participation #'s. 

- What about the remaining $2500? Well this goes as prize money for the first 10 places. Everyone loves winning cash!

So that's it and please remember these numbers are not exact, but examples and you might get more than 100 anglers. Sure it sounds simple, easy and to the point but will take a little planning. I take my hat off to the tourney director, been there. You have to deal with a lot of shit, some good, some bad and maybe a few comments like this post. But I hope I did not offend anyone, I am really trying to help. I really like this event and I want to see it grow and continue and maybe bring my son to one day. These are just a few proven suggestions that might just work for your club/ events for now and into the future.  Again, grain of salt my brothers.

Mike Lavoie
Lowrance Rockfish Tourney Director
FreshKATs.com Series Director

I'm not doing ORC this year b/c of the already cited issues, but I would sign up for what you described in a heartbeat.

Myself and a bunch of NCKA travel as far as 1200 miles some further to fish and hangout at this great event every year along with a bunch of other NCKA members. I think it's a great event.  I also wanted to win it as a Hobie Team member and fish Worlds and win a new Hobie. Now it's not a qualifier, no boat for the winner and the price went up and everyone seems all pissed off.  .

I have to be honest, compared to last year and what's offered this year, I see this event as it stands as a huge mismanagement of resources, price increase, no world qualifier and no real cash or boat as a prize. Well some look at it and go, "it's just a great get together with friends." Yes, that is true too but at $50 plus all the travel expenses for guys like me and others to get up there is hundreds of dollars. Is it worth it...

Anyway, A little about me. I am a business owner. I spent a large amount of time as a Sacramento 2030 member, organizing charity events: concerts, golf tourneys and crab and lobster feeds. I am also currently a tourney director within NCKA, both salt and fresh for a few years now. I love it. I've seen all types of tourney formulas, dealt with tons of sponsors and every tourney I've ever ran was a non profit event and truly uninfluenced by any company, a true club for the members event. Sure all the events had sponsors but non pulling the strings. So what you guys may have here in my opinion, is a tourney ran by some club members for a company through your club, not a club member running a tourney for the club members, a bad thing, no not really. But you have to look at it at a business perspective now and what's best for the puppet master? They want exposure, ROI and a possible write off, every company does, it's just business. And from what I've seen this business takes good care of your club. They most likely want a HOW 501c and it make sense. NA gets the write off and HOW gets some funds, great… what about the club guys who want to win some cash or a boat for the increased $50 admission they shell'd out? Won't happen the way it's set up now, the way it's always been run.  I reckon it might be time for change! hauckting.

You guys can fix it and more. Here's how in my opinion, everyone can win and this mind you is my 2cents, grain of salt… 

OK the formula
-100 guys give or take @ $50 ( little steep $$ but we'll make it work) = $5000 low ball

- Bunch of product donated by manufacturers/ sponsors of NA to be given away. No, stop! Raffle time!

 - Let's raffle it all off. $5 a ticket, individual ticket collection boxes per item so anglers can CHOOSE what they want to win. I have done a raffle at all of my events and have raised thousands of dollars for charity. Mine were a little different with no collection boxes, just a general raffle. Actually Eric Stockwell the GS director has really figured it out. His idea of using the ticket collection boxes seems to be the best method for both the anglers and funds generated.  Give Me Shelter tourney last weekend, their raffle with maybe 15 items collected nearly $4000! Anyways It works, well!

- Now all this raffle money goes to the HOW charity and for expenses (potluck items, ice, whatever). Also NA gets their 501c write-off  cause it's in there best interest. Both are happy.

- Now, what about the $5000 from angler admissions.  Well take half of that and purchase a nice new Hobie from NA, ahhh now they have sales too and are super happy  . Give it away as a raffle item. One ticket per angler included in each angler grab bag - this will also increase participation #'s. 

- What about the remaining $2500? Well this goes as prize money for the first 10 places. Everyone loves winning cash!

So that's it and please remember these numbers are not exact, but examples and you might get more than 100 anglers. Sure it sounds simple, easy and to the point but will take a little planning. I take my hat off to the tourney director, been there. You have to deal with a lot of shit, some good, some bad and maybe a few comments like this post. But I hope I did not offend anyone, I am really trying to help. I really like this event and I want to see it grow and continue and maybe bring my son to one day. These are just a few proven suggestions that might just work for your club/ events for now and into the future.  Again, grain of salt my brothers.

Mike Lavoie
Lowrance Rockfish Tourney Director
FreshKATs.com Series Director

Wow dude, it seemed to me like we were in the process of settling down and getting back to work on fixing things.  Meetings are being scheduled and people are coming to the table to get to work.  The last thing we need is someone else jumping in and stirring up the pot again.  Real classy.