*** 2016 ORC Tournament Format ****

I don't think I have ever fished the ORC with my serious hat on.  I just go for the fun and camping aspect. 

Taking home some meat is always a plus.

I don't think I have ever fished the ORC with my serious hat on.  I just go for the fun and camping aspect. 

Taking home some meat is always a plus.

I think we just played with the kiddy poles all day last year.... 

I get that, but I don't think serious and fun have to be mutually exclusive; i.e. I think it can still be competitive if you want it to be and just fun if you want it to be.

I get that, but I don't think serious and fun have to be mutually exclusive; i.e. I think it can still be competitive if you want it to be and just fun if you want it to be.

Absolutely! 

As long as you have your immersion gear, have a flag and radio, etc, and stay out of the channel, I don't really see why we need to enforce any boundaries.   Especially With a signed waiver and no corporate organizer for liability.   Just asking here.

I don't think I have ever fished the ORC with my serious hat on.  I just go for the fun and camping aspect. 

Taking home some meat is always a plus.

I think we just played with the kiddy poles all day last year.... 

I only brought kiddy poles last year. Left everything else at home

I don't think I have ever fished the ORC with my serious hat on.  I just go for the fun and camping aspect. 

Taking home some meat is always a plus.

I think we just played with the kiddy poles all day last year.... 

I only brought kiddy poles last year. Left everything else at home

I will have my own this year...just not sure which theme is fitting for me yet

As long as you have your immersion gear, have a flag and radio, etc, and stay out of the channel, I don't really see why we need to enforce any boundaries.   Especially With a signed waiver and no corporate organizer for liability.   Just asking here.

Liability is always present, corporate organizer or not.

As long as you have your immersion gear, have a flag and radio, etc, and stay out of the channel, I don't really see why we need to enforce any boundaries.   Especially With a signed waiver and no corporate organizer for liability.   Just asking here.

Liability is always present, corporate organizer or not.

Which begs the question, to my concern with how NA handled their waiver and launch requirements last year. 

A person signs a waiver to attend the OCR, and this supposedly relieves the organizers of all liability in the event you are injured or killed during the event.   The same organizers require in writing, that proper immersion gear is to be worn to compete.  Where does bill go if the organizers don't make sure that all of the paid and signed competitors are properly dressed, and some "Macho Mouse" causes another person to get injured or drowned while attempting to rescue his ass when he fell in and couldn't swim due to the effects of the cold water? 

It made me nervous launching and seeing those guys at the launch last year in shorts and light paddle jackets.  I believe by Maritime law we are required to assist a vessel in distress if you are the closest available vessel to them, so we made a bee line out of the hole to get as far from these guys as possible to not be the closest vessel to them during the event.

Yeah, in some ways it's a bit like the scene from Jaws where all the yahoos are out in little boats trying to kill a big fish.

You could make it an invitational of sorts or require a sponsor who can vouche that the competitor will not be a jackass on or off the water like GSX does.

Last year I believe anybody could just sign up through the NA website and have at it - kind of scary.  It's a young, growing sport and with all the social media, videos etc, the ORC is a dangerous proposition for a newbie under bad conditions.

Yeah, in some ways it's a bit like the scene from Jaws where all the yahoos are out in little boats trying to kill a big fish.

You could make it an invitational of sorts or require a sponsor who can vouche that the competitor will not be a jackass on or off the water like GSX does.

Last year I believe anybody could just sign up through the NA website and have at it - kind of scary.  It's a young, growing sport and with all the social media, videos etc, the ORC is a dangerous proposition for a newbie under bad conditions.

Yeah I really like the GS format to be able to attend that Eric does down there (been there twice).
He also provides a very thorough mandatory captains safety meeting the night before.   
And everyone holds each other accountable. 

As long as you have your immersion gear, have a flag and radio, etc, and stay out of the channel, I don't really see why we need to enforce any boundaries.   Especially With a signed waiver and no corporate organizer for liability.   Just asking here.

Liability is always present, corporate organizer or not.

Which begs the question, to my concern with how NA handled their waiver and launch requirements last year. 

A person signs a waiver to attend the OCR, and this supposedly relieves the organizers of all liability in the event you are injured or killed during the event.   The same organizers require in writing, that proper immersion gear is to be worn to compete.  Where does bill go if the organizers don't make sure that all of the paid and signed competitors are properly dressed, and some "Macho Mouse" causes another person to get injured or drowned while attempting to rescue his ass when he fell in and couldn't swim due to the effects of the cold water? 

It made me nervous launching and seeing those guys at the launch last year in shorts and light paddle jackets.  I believe by Maritime law we are required to assist a vessel in distress if you are the closest available vessel to them, so we made a bee line out of the hole to get as far from these guys as possible to not be the closest vessel to them during the event.

That reminds me. We may have a job for you. You may be getting volunteered by me for a task. Or is that voluntold? I will speak to you offline.

As long as you have your immersion gear, have a flag and radio, etc, and stay out of the channel, I don't really see why we need to enforce any boundaries.   Especially With a signed waiver and no corporate organizer for liability.   Just asking here.

Liability is always present, corporate organizer or not.

Which begs the question, to my concern with how NA handled their waiver and launch requirements last year. 

A person signs a waiver to attend the OCR, and this supposedly relieves the organizers of all liability in the event you are injured or killed during the event.   The same organizers require in writing, that proper immersion gear is to be worn to compete.  Where does bill go if the organizers don't make sure that all of the paid and signed competitors are properly dressed, and some "Macho Mouse" causes another person to get injured or drowned while attempting to rescue his ass when he fell in and couldn't swim due to the effects of the cold water? 

It made me nervous launching and seeing those guys at the launch last year in shorts and light paddle jackets.  I believe by Maritime law we are required to assist a vessel in distress if you are the closest available vessel to them, so we made a bee line out of the hole to get as far from these guys as possible to not be the closest vessel to them during the event.

That reminds me. We may have a job for you. You may be getting volunteered by me for a task. Or is that voluntold? I will speak to you offline.

Do I get to carry a badge and beat down stick?   

As long as you have your immersion gear, have a flag and radio, etc, and stay out of the channel, I don't really see why we need to enforce any boundaries.   Especially With a signed waiver and no corporate organizer for liability.   Just asking here.

Liability is always present, corporate organizer or not.

Which begs the question, to my concern with how NA handled their waiver and launch requirements last year. 

A person signs a waiver to attend the OCR, and this supposedly relieves the organizers of all liability in the event you are injured or killed during the event.   The same organizers require in writing, that proper immersion gear is to be worn to compete.  Where does bill go if the organizers don't make sure that all of the paid and signed competitors are properly dressed, and some "Macho Mouse" causes another person to get injured or drowned while attempting to rescue his ass when he fell in and couldn't swim due to the effects of the cold water? 

It made me nervous launching and seeing those guys at the launch last year in shorts and light paddle jackets.  I believe by Maritime law we are required to assist a vessel in distress if you are the closest available vessel to them, so we made a bee line out of the hole to get as far from these guys as possible to not be the closest vessel to them during the event.

Luckily that law requires anyone "able to render aid" required to help and I was told we are NOT capable of rendering aid by the coastie's here, so we get to choose if we want to help the incredibly stupid.

Do I get to carry a badge and beat down stick?   

I'll allow it.