descending device required for oregon in 2017

Inline descenders never really worked well for me.  I need more weight to descend a fish than the 4oz in your picture - I like a 16oz ball - especially if you are descending a 7 lbs+ YE.  That and I've got rockfish unbuttoned from the pin only to immediately foul hook them on the lead head hook, have to bring them back up and do it over again.

Crash, I haven't assembled a descender setup yet.  How do you think this setup would work: From bottom to top, a 1 pound weight, a foot of mono, the descender, four feet of mono, and a snap clip.  Put it in a water bottle holder or tray in your kayak, and hook the snap clip to something so the mono won't get tangled.  If you catch a fish which you want to release, clip the descender to your lowest leadhead jig, hook the fish to the descender, and lower the fish.  When you get the fish to the depth at which you want to release it, your leadhead jig would be four feet above the fish, and when you jerk your line to release the fish, the jig will be heading up away from the fish. How do you think that would work?  It seems to me that advantages of this setup would be (a) you wouldn't need to remove your lures from your line before attaching the descender setup, and (b) you wouldn't need a second pole for the descender.

Should work.  Using mono gives a bit of stretch, which is good and which is why I use bungee.  You would want to use a low memory mono or change it often.  I don't think 4' is necessary, 18" ought to do.  I haven't hooked one on any shrimp flies that I have left on, although I have hooked rockfish on the flies while trying to descend a different fish before.  Easiest is to have a dedicated descender rod, but if you only take one rod with you then having a setup that you can quickly change out is a close second.

This was a pretty simple setup for descending floaters
http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?p=13760049#post13760049
very suitable for a kayak.

This might be a stupid question but how do you get the fish grip to release at depth?

This might be a stupid question but how do you get the fish grip to release at depth?

Not stupid at all because I have let go of them with a rolling lingcod on and it was still there after I pulled them back up ( had a brass swivel and big bungee cord on) they don't release till you open them.

When you give the rope a jerk, the orange fish grips pop open - if they don't pop open and stay open, then you put too many wraps on the rubber band for the amount of weight you're using, or you put the weight on the wrong handle of the grips.  The orange fish grips have sort of a vice grip type action to them, and you should put the weight on the orange arm that hinges open.  Take a look at the grips and you'll see that one side is rigid to the top clamp, the other handle is hinged to the bottom clamp.

Ok "stupid is as stupid does" after zooming way in I noticed the weight and line is attached to the lock lever side of the grips with almost invisible (in this photo)fishing line so the pliers are inline attached at each handle... free Sheldon is my go to

Easy compact descender that fits in my tackle box made from a 16 oz sinker, dacron line, a snap, and a barbless hook:

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I see them.

I do now as well

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I will tell you how not to descend a fish. Do not use a 9 1/2 foot 1-6 oz salmon rod and an "improvised on the spot" descender with a 24 oz weight you were using for halibut. When you drop it down 100 feet and give it a good jerk the rod snaps.  You get funny looks when you try to warranty the rod. But eventually they buy the story about the epic great white/moa moa battle you trolled through while salmon fishing, and they replace the rod while making the statement: "That's the first time we have ever heard anything like that. Hmmmm... pretty creative."  Big shout out for Lamiglass!

These are the highlights:

Changes:
• sublimit of 6 blacks
• sublimit of 4 china/blue/deacon/quillback/copper in total
• no minimum size on greenling
• no sublimit on canary
• descending device must be onboard. Required to use at > 30 fm

Reminders:
• limit is still 7 RCG and 2 lingcod
• cabezon retention July 1-Dec 31 sublimit 1

You guys have it right.  The minor nearshore complex species of concern have shown sufficient improvement to allow them to be part of a 4 fish sublimit.  You can retain up to 7 canary as part of your 7 fish RCG limit.  You have to carry a descender.  You have to acutually use it > 30 fm.  You guys got all that stuff right.

I wish ODFW required halibut fishermen to have descenders on board.  Other than that, this is a real win for Oregon rec anglers.  If you guys think this is bad or confusing, you should try fishing in California or Washington sometime.  ODFW seems to actually care about both the fish AND the fishermen.  So we get to keep the year round season.  That's what this is all about - getting to keep the year round recreational groundfish fishery.

I got confused for a moment because this conflicts with page 94 of the regs. The update is online.

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These are the highlights:

Changes:
• sublimit of 6 blacks
• sublimit of 4 china/blue/deacon/quillback/copper in total
• no minimum size on greenling
• no sublimit on canary
• descending device must be onboard. Required to use at > 30 fm

Reminders:
• limit is still 7 RCG and 2 lingcod
• cabezon retention July 1-Dec 31 sublimit 1

You guys have it right.  The minor nearshore complex species of concern have shown sufficient improvement to allow them to be part of a 4 fish sublimit.  You can retain up to 7 canary as part of your 7 fish RCG limit.  You have to carry a descender.  You have to acutually use it > 30 fm.  You guys got all that stuff right.

I wish ODFW required halibut fishermen to have descenders on board.  Other than that, this is a real win for Oregon rec anglers.  If you guys think this is bad or confusing, you should try fishing in California or Washington sometime.  ODFW seems to actually care about both the fish AND the fishermen.  So we get to keep the year round season.  That's what this is all about - getting to keep the year round recreational groundfish fishery.

I got confused for a moment because this conflicts with page 94 of the regs. The update is online.

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This came out a couple weeks after I posted that.

http://www.dfw.state.or.us/MRP/regulations/sport_fishing/docs/what_can_i_keep_how_many_2017.pdf

The refs say a device is required to be used outside 30 fathoms.  So, does that mean if you're inside 30 fathoms you done need to use one or have it on board?

The refs say a device is required to be used outside 30 fathoms.  So, does that mean if you're inside 30 fathoms you done need to use one or have it on board?

If you're fishing for Rockfish at all then you need to have one on board, regardless of how far out or deep you are, you're only required to use it though at 30 fathoms or more.

The Commission also set 2017 groundfish regulations. For the recreational angler, the new regulations will require all groundfish anglers to have a descending device on board the vessel, and will require its use for all rockfish released outside of 30 fathoms. Anglers can find more information about descending devices and how to use them here.