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snopro

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Looking at another web site (with eye, phish, and net in the name) and the topic of charging a registration fee for non-motorized craft is a hot topic. House Bill 2320.

How do you feel about this?

Story from the Mail Tribune at this link...
http://www.mailtribune.com/news/20170125/fees-considered-for-nonmotorized-boats
« Last Edit: January 26, 2017, 06:57:19 PM by snopro »


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I think they should go after the bicycle spandex mafia first.
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loreglas

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No date set yet that I can see to start.

Fees are:  5. for a week, includes AIS

17. annual Includes AIS

30. for two years Includes AIS

Transferable

14 years and younger not needed
 30. fine

Also PDF required to wear in streams and ocean, not in lakes

Other things included in bill

To get this price must buy diredt through Marine board.
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Mojo Jojo

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Since they spend large amounts of tax dollars on widening the road and putting in bicycle lanes specifically designed push button lights for the majority of the nimrods to ignore basic traffic signals and ride so that even though there is 3 feet of shoulder you still gotta cross the center to avoid hitting them hovering on the white....... I'll be pushing a lot of government send buttons on the old email, Also.... and sorry if I piss off the guys that bicycle on here.....THEY SHOULD REQUIRE INSURANCE....... ever seen what kind of damage a ten speed can do to a parked car fender at 25-30? Over $600 and my uncles liability did him no good, he got the shaft.



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Hey!  Wasn't the political Word of the Year in 2016 "Lower Taxes!"?

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Oregon.
It's always more, more, more.
The state gov't and it's minions can kiss my ass. Yes you Kate Brown, and the ODF&W too.
Here in Corvallis I have the privilege of paying for everyone's bus rides.
You are not welcome to any more of my money.


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Did they end up passing that crap that charges people just to use float tubes AND requires PFDs too?
 


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Ok I should say at the price there talking it's not a big issue as long as they keep up there end but after reading the above story how are they going to patrol where a lot of kayakers go up river sheriff patrol kayaks? But I will still be bitching upside every politician for the exact same rules for nonmotorized  cycles. IMHO there impact on tax dollars spent for there specific benefit is way more then ours.



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When I first got involved with HOW I would see all the posts on NCKA and most of the places they fished had improved kayak launches. Last year I started talking with the Sea Scouts and OSMB and was like why can't we get a design approved and get materials donated and build some. Well after working my way to the appropriate OSMB contact I was told lawyers and insurance people run the world. Furthermore, improvements are proportionally funded by user/registration fees  and since we don't pay we get no play, but that this bill was in the works.

I fail to see how they would enforce the proposal equally as there aren't many LEOs up the creeks where the whitewater kayaks put in, but if they want to make the drunks in tubes pay their fare share I guess it is good for everyone. I'm also a little dubious as to how they will track the fees to make sure we are getting our fair share of the revenue put into improvements that will benefit us that have already been paying the AIS.

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Tinker

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I may be reading this wrong, but it appears to me this is for rafts.  I haven't read the Bill, but it might not include kayaks at all.
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From what I read it is everything no matter the size except what kids play on. Float mattresses, inner tubes and pool toys are excepted. they are targeting kayaks.
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This doesn't seem to have a sponsor in the legislature.  The Marine Board is floating this around the legislature, let's hope it stays unsponsored.


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Quote from: By Mark Freeman-Mail Tribune
The Oregon State Marine Board will ask the Oregon Legislature to create and fund a new nonmotorized boating program that would help pay for upkeep of boat ramps, other facilities and marine patrol programs heretofore paid largely by fees charged to motorized boaters.

Wait.. What?   :protest:

Help pay for boat ramps?  How's that work?  If we elect to use said boat ramp, we pay the same as the boaters do at the same facility to use that ramp already.
If we don't use the ramp, we shouldn't be required to pay any more fee than if a person parked there just to take their dog for a walk, use the crapper, have a picnic or bank fish.
Also, we shouldn't be required to support something independently "just because".

Next, what other facilities and marine patrol programs are the motorized boaters "largely paying for and with what fees" outside of their registration (which already includes their invasive species permit)?
 

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From what I read it is everything no matter the size except what kids play on. Float mattresses, inner tubes and pool toys are excepted. they are targeting kayaks.

I was reading these parts:

"The bill would also, for the first time, define and regulate for safety those using inner tubes, floating mattresses and other pool toys when floating Oregon's rivers and streams."

and

"The term 'nonmotorized craft' would be used to describe items not defined as a boat and not propelled by equipment such as oars, yet still capable of supporting a person on the water, according to the Marine Board."

But again, I haven't read the Bill and don't really know what it intends to do.
« Last Edit: January 28, 2017, 08:44:25 AM by Tinker »
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https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2017R1/Downloads/MeasureDocument/HB2320

It definitely includes kayaks and all human-powered craft.  Read the fine print on what the Marine Board can do with the money, and note that they want it as an Emergency Act, to go into effect as soon as it's signed.
« Last Edit: January 28, 2017, 09:10:29 AM by Tinker »
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