Lamiglas rod squad forum

Also sometimes people forget their leash... 

You know I wouldn't mind having is a leash that has a more robust connecting point to the rod. Like a screw-in attachment or something. Not really because I think it's gonna get yanked off by the fish but more because if you're able to take it off easily then it's just one more thing to forget. If it were a good leash and stuck to the rod (maybe a few different attachment points) I think it would be more kayak friendly.

Dang it Pole, gimme John's email, I could talk for hours about this.

Z

Only partially joking --but what about a retractable leash integral to the pole itself--wouldn't forget it then ...

If you leash it, why does it need to float?  Or if it floats, why do you need to leash it?

If you have a seatbelt in your car why do you need an airbag?

BS, you mentioned something about whether an 8' rod would fit down the Rod Pod hole. It will with room to spare. I have dropped my 8'6" rod down the hole no problemo!  It's a two piece, but I put it in as a single stick.

I don't think stowing a one piece rod is really something that's important for a kayak salmon rod. Kayaks come in all shapes and sizes so making it a two piece would lend it stowable to a majority of kayaks out there.

Only partially joking --but what about a retractable leash integral to the pole itself--wouldn't forget it then ...

Sounds like a great concept. Making it a reality would be hard as the mechanism would have to fit in the rod itself. Might drive the price up as well. I love the concept.. I'd love to try to engineer one.

Z

My prefered size for a kayak rod is generally about 7'6", but for a moderate action rod (i.e. lot of bend) a longer length wouldn't be too bad and the longer length would help with the salmon.

Brian

You've hit on a very important point for a big water salmon rod. It needs to be long and bendy for a few critical reasons. Most of us need to use barbless hooks for salmon and a faster action rod is gonna put us at a big disadvantage with so much line out in the water. The give in a softer medium action rod will leave the hook well set in the salmon's mouth. Since Salmon have soft mouths a fast action rod may just rip the hook out. Although you have to try, I've actually seen people rip the hook out with a med. action rod when they try to set the hook after it pops off the downrigger. If we're using a downrigger you need that medium action w/ the powerful butt so that when it comes off the DR clip it sets the hook well. There's no easier way to lose fish on the DR than having a bad hookset because your line was a little slack. Also we usually use longer leaders so a longer rod will let us get that salmon to the yak easier. I've also found with a longer rod you're able to move the salmon around a little better when it's netting time. Since it's barbless in most places, this is exactly where you're gonna lose the fish 80% or more of the time. Since we're low in the water we really need that length to keep the rod tip high and line taught no matter which direction the salmon goes. And one last benefit is that the fight is a ton more fun. I've tried a few different rods and nothing quite compares to the longer bendy rods. Chances are we're gonna be catching fish in the 5-10 pound range the most so why not make them funner?

Z

If you leash it, why does it need to float?  Or if it floats, why do you need to leash it?

If you have a seatbelt in your car why do you need an airbag?

You need both of those because of there are forces beyond your control and the ramifications of not having them when you need them are large.  To me, the implications of having a leash is that it gets in the way.  The implications of having a floating rod is that it is a bit larger and unwieldy.  The ramification of not having these features when needed is that I'll post a topic here saying how stupid I was when I lost the rod.   

And motorcycles have neither!!!     Livin' on the edge ...

-Allen

Regarding Zee's most recent post -

Is Wa. a barbless only state? Just curious/ignorant I guess.

Second, I'm probably mostly going to be targeting the big fall salmon runs on the Oregon Coast. These fish are much bigger than 5-10 pounds, and I usually find them in 8-15 feet of water.

I do agree that a fast action is no good at all in a trolling rod, but they can taper the rod to transition into a powerful butt.

It's too bad they can't make everyone a unique rod!

You need both of those because of there are forces beyond your control and the ramifications of not having them when you need them are large. 

Exactly. So when you're juggling a 15-40 pound salmon on the end of your line trying to put him in the net while holding that net the there's a lot of things out of your control. It may not be life threatening but man do I cry when I lose a good fish.. Having one less thing to worry about means a lot to me.

To me, the implications of having a leash is that it gets in the way.  The implications of having a floating rod is that it is a bit larger and unwieldy.  The ramification of not having these features when needed is that I'll post a topic here saying how stupid I was when I lost the rod.   
-Allen

Yeah for sure. I don't think leash placement has been explored nearly enough. Also a regular leash is a pain. I like the idea that yakker came up with about having a retractable leash. That way it'd contract and stay out of the way like some dog leash's do.

I totally understand wanting to go leashless though. Surfing w/o a leash is AWESOME!

Z

Regarding Zee's most recent post -

Is Wa. a barbless only state? Just curious/ignorant I guess.

Pretty much. Rivers aren't barbless.

Second, I'm probably mostly going to be targeting the big fall salmon runs on the Oregon Coast. These fish are much bigger than 5-10 pounds, and I usually find them in 8-15 feet of water.

I do agree that a fast action is no good at all in a trolling rod, but they can taper the rod to transition into a powerful butt.

Wow! 8-15' FOW?? That's nuts. Like I mentioned in the post before, length isn't all about the flex characteristics of the rod.

It's too bad they can't make everyone a unique rod!

They can. They're just reaaaaaaallly spendy!
Check out these: http://www.kzreelrods.com/
I want an acid wrap DR rod!!!!

Z

but man do I cry when I lose a good fish.

And you know how much I hate to see you cry ...

So do you keep the leash on even when you're playing a fish.  The few times I tried leashing up, I disconnected the leash when reeling because it got in the way.

-Allen

And you know how much I hate to see you cry ...

You love to see my pain.

So do you keep the leash on even when you're playing a fish.  The few times I tried leashing up, I disconnected the leash when reeling because it got in the way.

-Allen

Yeah, for sure. I used to have that Scotty 8 cinched all the way up to the trigger grip on my rod. It was mostly out of the way, but still a little troublesome. I rigged it now with a different clip so that it's on the opposite side of the reel seat at the base of the foregrip and sits just right in the rod holder. I use that Scotty telephone cord leash and it stays out of the way most of the time. Not perfect but manageable.

Z

And motorcycles have neither!!!     Livin' on the edge ...
-Allen

au contrair , mon' frer... as of about 2 years ago, both Honda and BMW were producing larger touring models with airbags.... they deploy over the front and wrap around at the same time.. will try to find you a link..