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Noggin Yakker

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So check/wash stations for kayaks at boat ramps? silliness. I've launched at a ramp maybe 3 times out of 10,000. This doesn't change anything to make kayaks less suseptable to transporting invasive species. There is no way they can enforce this except for maybe busy boat ramps.

I'm all for finding funding for invasive species research, but this is just stupid in my opinion.

I doubt that the check stations will be at launch ramps. That would require too much manpower. Rather, they'll probably be in higher traffic areas and operate similar to weigh stations.


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I talked to a friend who was in on this a bit (she works with/on/for? the Oregon Invasive Species Council).  She said that the kayak fee was supposed to be biennial as well. She's going to find the final language and check on it.  Hopefully, if it's in error there is still time to get that fixed before the Gov signs this (I haven't figured out how to tell if he has signed this yet or not.)

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so....is their a recommended "boat wash" solution that will kill these organisms?
 
When I bought my yak, Simple Green was recommended to me.  Not sure if does in fact stop the spread of invasive species, but I know it sure does clean the boats off nice and is biodegradable/non toxic...

Anyone else use Simple green?


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Other than rinsing salt off, I've never even thought about washing my yak...but then again, I don't wash my car either.
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Okay, I got the word on the bill.  It is annual for kayaks :( and that it's also a transferable piece of paper  ( :( :( ).

The reason that power boaters get a biennial fee is that it's part of their boat registration fee (i.e. their fee simply increases).  The annual fee for everyone else has something to do with making sure the bill pays for itself.   Making power boaters buy a separate annual sticker would have been costly in terms of administration.

I'm still going to have to buy at least two of these because sometimes I let others use my extra kayaks.  I would have much rather had a sticker that I can't loose or get wet/destroyed.  For those of you that have more than one kayak and only ever use one at a time I guess you get to save a bit of money this way.

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I only wash the outside really hah, and really only started after the toxic algae blooms that were happening in the Tualatin last year.  I had been paddling in that water and didn't want to spread anything to any of the lakes I like to fish. I'm not one to wash my car either...


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Other than rinsing salt off, I've never even thought about washing my yak...but then again, I don't wash my car either.

Cars can be washed???  I might have to try that some day.
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Be careful that you don't wash away whatever is holding it together  ;)
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I worry what washing my truck would do to my moss/mushroom/algae garden that seems to be growing on it lately.
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The Neon's dirt has sentimental value.  I wouldn't dream of washing it off.  There is still some dirt and surf wax on there from a 2005 Baja Mexico trip. 
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According to an article in todays Eugene paper, "The law would appear to apply to canoes and kayaks over 10 feet long, but the Marine Board is given authority to administer the program, including but not limited to the exemption of certain boats from the (permit) requirements"

This sounds to me that kayaks could still be exempted from having to get permits.

The article also says the house bill 3013 provides additional funding to continue consideration for the four additional marine reserves at Cape Arago, Cape Falcon, Cape Perpetua, and Cascade Head. The $1million comes from the damage award from the New Carissa shipwreck. 

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Okay, I got the word on the bill.  It is annual for kayaks :( and that it's also a transferable piece of paper  ( :( :( ).


That still means that we're paying $20 in 2 years but PBs only $5
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That still means that we're paying $20 in 2 years but PBs only $5

Only if you want to register two kayaks for both years.  If you only have one kayak or only take one out at a time it's $5 per year ($10 for two years). 

I think they thought that a transferable pass would be better for kayak/canoes.  I can see why they might think that, but I don't think they thought it through enough.

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Here's the bill wording...I guess I can't add. We only pay 2x the PBs, not 4x

SECTION 9. Notwithstanding ORS 830.790 (3), fees for issuance and renewal of an aquatic
invasive species prevention permit are as follows:
(1) The biennial fee for a motorboat issued a certificate of number under ORS 830.795 is
$5.
(2) The annual fee for a manually propelled boat 10 feet or more in length is $5.
(3) The annual fee for a motorboat operated by a nonresident is $20.
(4) The annual fee for an operator of a boat livery is:
(a) $30 for an operator who owns 6 to 10 manually propelled boats;
(b) $55 for an operator who owns 11 to 20 manually propelled boats; or
(c) $100 for an operator who owns 21 or more manually propelled boats.
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Jay. if i understand right biannuel means the PB's have to pay 5 dollars twice a year  = 10.00 .. where we only pay 5 dollars for once a year  = 5.00 if i am reading it right..
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