SOME ETIQUETTE, PLEASE...

Finally found time to post this message with hopes the couple of whom I'm referencing will read this.

Last week, I was fishing the pink run out of Kayak Point and observed a couple coming into the area in a yellow Hobie tandem pedal rig.  Because I also own an Outback, I watched these two persons fairly regularly.  As they arrived in the immediate area, they gradually drew closer and closer to the point where they drifted into the area of my casting.  When they saw pinks jumping in another area, they would paddle into it.  At one point, I was anchored about a hundred feet or so from another anchored craft and we were pounding a school of fish parked between us.  Wouldn't you know it...  the kayak couple appeared, floated directly between our crafts and began casting into the school.  The woman aboard the kayak hooked up and the fish led them directly towards the anchored boat.  The angler at the stern literally had to raise his rod so that their kayak passed under his line next to the boat.  After netting their salmon, this couple did a quick about face and again returned to the very same spot of their previous hookup...

If you are reading this (and the couple I'm referencing), please get your act together and practice a little courtesy!!!!  With such a wide open area and pinks literally everywhere, it was such a idiotic act to park yourselves where two craft were ANCHORED and casting. 

That is a lame bit of maneuvering on their part but why didn't you say something at the time? Some newbs just don't know any better and would have appreciated knowing.

Z

I would be HOT over the lack of etiquette too.  I'm not sure if I would unleash a word smithing upon them or not.  I give kudos to the restraint it took not to say anything- becuase it can get ugly.

Maybe try the kinder/gentler angler approach... and tell them nice folks about the hot spot spot around the corner...just past the white house...you can see it, you'll know when you get to it...everyone's catching them hand over fist but I got to leave in 30 min.  Yeah, can't miss it...some guy caught a near state record just yesterday..etc..etc.  Your welcome, go have fun.

This type of help to the secret hot spot is always down stream and with the wind, of course !

Karma is a bitch and
crooks go on vacation too.
-Scott

becuase it can get ugly.

I understand your sentiment but I doubt a couple on a kayak are something to be afraid of. Pointing out something isn't really that big of a deal and chances are they didn't know, or would have at least been civil. Just a guess.

Z

I think Zee is our closet badass.  I think WR is nearby, and he always rolls with a fully armed Stryker, too.  You should put him on speed dial.

Or cast over them.  From shore off Bush Point a couple of years ago I bounced a #3 BuzzBomb off the side of a boat that decided he needed to troll through our casting area.  

"Oops, sorry!  You cut through our zone."

On their return troll they were outside our range.

I've casted over that swim club at Hagg before.  Was sitting 15 feet from shore casting parallel in the weeds and under the brush.  Two of them decided that the spot between my yak and shore was a great rest area.  Swam right through my current casting spot and camped right next to me.  I loudly proclaimed "You've got to be Kidding me!!!  One glanced over at me but that was it.  Both proceeded to float there for about 5 minutes  waiting for their friends.  Who when they caught up swam within a pole length of my yak and were giving me dirty looks.  I was tempted as hell to pop on a 3-6oz lead and start casting at heads.

Etiquette is long gone to most.

I think you would find a descending parrallel if you drew lines representing reduced etiquette and reduced legal tolerance for physical altercations.

While I don't like it any more than anyone else, this is a sign of the times and something we just have to get used to.  I remember a time when nobody targeted pinks.  Like Zee said, some people are ignorant, but will "get it" with some friendly conversation.  However, some people are a-holes and won't ever get it.  For me, I either embrace the combat fishing (it can be fun, but gets old quick) or paddle somewhere else.

That being said, up in Ketchikan in June, I had an altercation with a troller.  Imagine a 50 foot boat constantly trolling circles around you every now and then honking his horn and telling you to get out of the way as he bears down on you.  Yes, if I didn't move, he would have ran me over.  I had a few words with that guy, and a few more too.  Then I started taking pictures of him doing it and told him the coasties would be very interested in his endangering of a paddlecraft.  He stopped shortly after that.

-Allen

I think Zee is our closet badass.  I think WR is nearby, and he always rolls with a fully armed Stryker, too.  You should put him on speed dial.

heh, don't we wish. currently fresh out of ma duece units and .50 BMG rounds, and we just sent our last on hand MGS to the brigade in Hawaii along with the current supply of 105mm beehive[cannister] rounds. come to think, i wouldnt even need to slow down, just do a drive thru the parking lot with either system. on the fly stabilization is such a sweet thing....

ok, in all seriousness, i probly woulda politely talked to them, and failing their comprehension, used the obfuscation method described by Scott.

maybe we need to start having "mentoring " sessions open to the public?

geesh, i can't spell anymore........

"A Note on Kayak Etiquette - Getting the Most Out of Out Time on the Water"

list some simple guidelines and put them on the windshields of every kayak carrying vehicle in a parking lot when you encounter some bad yakkers.

Or just chill out on a nearby grassy knoll?

This talk of action and counter action reminds me of a situation last summer.  A vacant lot was purchased on the road below my place and the construction of a new house began.  The construction crew played their rock n roll CD's full blast everyday.  Now, I love rock n roll.  I listen to stuff much harder then what they had going, but I don't force it on the rest of my neighbors. 

So one day I just really feel like enjoying the tranquil setting of my space, the beer in hand, my mean ass little cow dog lying on the porch.  And then the stupid boombox fires up.  I just didn't feel it, did not work for me.

Now the hill I live on put me about 100ft. above the project, my bathroom window facing directly toward the construction project.  I'm not getting gross, just give me a sec.


I maneuvered my mega watt tower system into place, speakers stacked at edge of open window...good.  Inserted my favorite Scottish marching bagpipe/drum CD and hit play.  Scottish bagpipes are badass, Scottish bagpipes through hundreds of watts of power...super bad ass.  I let that mother play all the way through.

I did not have any other issue with the sound level of the construction crew stereo after that.  The new neighbors are really cool by the way- and I never told them about my private war.
-Scott

This talk of action and counter action reminds me of a situation last summer.  A vacant lot was purchased on the road below my place and the construction of a new house began.  The construction crew played their rock n roll CD's full blast everyday.  Now, I love rock n roll.  I listen to stuff much harder then what they had going, but I don't force it on the rest of my neighbors. 

So one day I just really feel like enjoying the tranquil setting of my space, the beer in hand, my mean ass little cow dog lying on the porch.  And then the stupid boombox fires up.  I just didn't feel it, did not work for me.

Now the hill I live on put me about 100ft. above the project, my bathroom window facing directly toward the construction project.  I'm not getting gross, just give me a sec.


I maneuvered my mega watt tower system into place, speakers stacked at edge of open window...good.  Inserted my favorite Scottish marching bagpipe/drum CD and hit play.  Scottish bagpipes are badass, Scottish bagpipes through hundreds of watts of power...super bad ass.  I let that mother play all the way through.

I did not have any other issue with the sound level of the construction crew stereo after that.  The new neighbors are really cool by the way- and I never told them about my private war.
-Scott

 

If it's not Scottish - it's CRAP!

You showed much more restraint than I would have...

But then, I was a Basic Training Drill Sergeant for a period while I was in the Army, and I don't tolerate fools easily.

Polepole can tell you that I already speak loud, even when not yelling in my best Drill Sergeant Voice.

One of the best things about Being a Drill Sergeant in the Modern Army, my command of the English language had to be improved, since I coudln't cuss at the recruits...  No one said, I couldn;t use greative phraseology to get the same point across...

It is amazing how many people suffer from "Cranial Rectal Inversion!" and how many people understand "I don't give an aerial intercourse what you think!"   

YotF

Scottish bagpipes are badass,
-Scott

Bagpipes are LOUD.

When I lived in CA, we had a condo that was built done the side of a hill. Three levels of building, then two levels of closed garage. We lived at the top.

 One day I heard what I thought was a recording of bagpipes coming from my balcony. I checked and no one on the balcony. Must be down a level. Nope. Next to the pool on the bottom level? Nope. Down in the alley near Cahuenga? Nope. I'm confused.

 Inside the second level of the parking garage my neighbor, who was a dead ringer for Nigel Thornberry, was wailing on a set of pipes and I could not hear myself scream at him it was soooo loud. He is really good people and eventually stopped.

Moral of the story? Get a set of bagpipes and play them for rude kayakers.