Aquatic invasive species permit...

Anyone purchase theirs for 2010 yet?  Curious what they look like, or what info they have on them?  They say they are printed on waterproof paper, probably like the license themselves.

I'm planning to do some crabbing on Jan 2nd, and may as well get this out of the way early when I purchase my increased crabbing license fee, so I can save up for my increased fishing license fee shortly there after.  

It's interesting how they rendered the permits between motorized boats and human operated boats.  With the motorized boats, it permits the boat regardless of user/driver.  On non motorized boats, it permits the paddler/user regardless of boat.   

I would think that anyone that pays for one, shouldn't need to pay for the other.

increasing & doubling up fees: i hope the funds will be used to deal with control of invasive species, but i suspect it may another way to hire more staff & pay for administration of their permanent Marine Reserve no-take closures. 

I have mine. It looks like all the other ODFW receipts. It states that it is for a non-motorized vessel, your name, address, dl #, phone #, dob, and fishing license #. This is the same info as on your fishing license. My passport has less info on it. 

At least for motorized vessels the cost is only $5 every other year instead of $7 every year for non-motorized.

Jay

At least for motorized vessels the cost is only $5 every other year instead of $7 every year for non-motorized.

Jay

Yeah, that reduces the blow. 
I have both kinds of boats, and a wife and two kids.  So, I get to pay for the power boat, myself, my wife, and both kids.

Why couldn't they just require a permit per boat, or per person to keep it consistant?  Looks like the paddling community will be paying for most of this game that the OSMB is playing.

Was there a meeting somewhere that was announced where we could provide input to this?  If so, I completely missed it. 

So I was originally thinking why would anyone put a trolling motor on a kayak? Well considering there are 7 kids, my wife and I plus my Friends that I have take the yak for a spin that adds up to.....  Myself+Wife+Kids... $63 + 2-3 friends maybe more... $84  You've got to be kidding me!!!      I might as well register the kayak so I can put a motor or sail on it.   

So I was originally thinking why would anyone put a trolling motor on a kayak? Well considering there are 7 kids, my wife and I plus my Friends that I have take the yak for a spin that adds up to.....  Myself+Wife+Kids... $63 + 2-3 friends maybe more... $84  You've got to be kidding me!!!      I might as well register the kayak so I can put a motor or sail on it.   

That would cover one kayak.  Whatcha gunna do with the other one? 

   From what I understand, you don't have to get a permit for every person on the water, just every boat on the water. I went into the sporting goods store here in Tillamook to get the low down, and they of course had no idea what was happening. So they called the marine board while I was there (on speaker phone) , and the lady that they talked to said that every boat on the water at the same time had to have a permit for it, regardless of whose permit it was. So I can buy one permit for my kayak and one for my canoe, and anyone can paddle them as long as whomever is in the boat at the time has the permit you're all good.
   That's the answer I got, straight from the horses mouth. Whether or not the horse knew what she was talking about, or how the rules will be interpreted through LE is another story, however.
Jonah

That's also what the FAQs page stated when I read it.  If you haven't read it yet, you should, it's very informative and tells you all the basics.

That's also what the FAQs page stated when I read it.  If you haven't read it yet, you should, it's very informative and tells you all the basics.

I don't see how they are possibly going to get this off the ground for kayaks.
A-99% of kayakers and kayak retailers/renters have no idea, and no one's really made an effort to tell them. Since they've made no effort to publicize this to kayakers, it makes me think they have no intention of enforcing it on kayaks, or they just don't have a clue how to do it.

B-I can't see how they are going to enforce this. Maybe they think all kayakers put in at a boat ramp, but I can't see how they think to do this.
C-I think they've underestimated the number of kayakers out there, and don't have a plan to enforce the law, or distribute the money to "invasive species protection/research"
D- They have no idea about kayaks. They've left out WW kayaks, who probably travel to a greater number of watersheds than do the 10ft+ rec & touring kayaks.

The whole thing is just stupid. I got no problem giving $7 to help protect against invasive species, but don't BS me into giving you money for a slush fund under the guise of stewardship.

Where is the link for this?

i'm not really sure why, but this whole thing really makes me mad. It's not the money or the politics, but the fact that I really liked flying under the radar in a sea kayak.

I liked the freedom of just putting my boat in the water where ever I please and taking off...

It feels like a loss of that personal freedom I dig about sea kayaking, and I'm not going to support it.

I guess I'll be the test dummy on finding out how they plan on enforcing, because I'm not registering my kayak. I'll donate $7 to the fund, but I'm not registering.

   Ok, I just got off the phone with the marine board myself. I wanted to double check since I posted that earlier. The lady I talked to confirmed that one boat = one permit, no matter the permit holder or paddler. I specifically asked about multiple boats, I was told you can buy as many permits as you want, or as many boats as you have, and anyone can use that boat with your permit -friends, family, wife, kids, strangers, weirdos from this board  , etc. So, if you have 8 boats, you can buy one permit and paddle any of them one on the water at a time, or buy 8 permits and have all 8 boats on the water regardless of who is piloting said boats.
  I also asked about enforcement, she said for the first few months only warnings would be given out, after that $142 tickets will be the norm. Lame. And she said no personal info is collected, so if you lose your permit, you have to buy a new one. Altogether lame.
Jonah

bSteves has a sticky at the top of the Oregon Kayak Fishing forum and the following link to FAQs:

http://www.oregon.gov/OSMB/programs/09LawsFAQs.shtml

Ye, I'm in Nookie's camp.  If I didn't spend my workdays loitering on this website, I'd have no idea about this law.  I troll other paddling sites, and haven't seen a mention.  I even wandered a few paddle shops without hearing a word.  So it does seem that, if enforced via citation, it's a rather chicken sh1t ploy to get cash.  

I'm also a big proponent of the freedom that man powered vessels bring.  I like knowing that I can launch my boat or board whenever and wherever I like.  That's a huge part of the charm associated with this lifestyle.  I usually don't use boat ramps, and if I do, they are ones well off the beaten path.  So, aside from unlikely signage at these places, I'm not sure how the good folks at the Marine Board are gonna let me know that I need to play by their new rule.

I'm just not a fan of getting charged for unadvertised laws. I'm not registering, either.

  Ok, I just got off the phone with the marine board myself. I wanted to double check since I posted that earlier. The lady I talked to confirmed that one boat = one permit, no matter the permit holder or paddler. I specifically asked about multiple boats, I was told you can buy as many permits as you want, or as many boats as you have, and anyone can use that boat with your permit -friends, family, wife, kids, strangers, weirdos from this board  , etc. So, if you have 8 boats, you can buy one permit and paddle any of them one on the water at a time, or buy 8 permits and have all 8 boats on the water regardless of who is piloting said boats.
  I also asked about enforcement, she said for the first few months only warnings would be given out, after that $142 tickets will be the norm. Lame. And she said no personal info is collected, so if you lose your permit, you have to buy a new one. Altogether lame.
Jonah

If no personal info is collected how do they know what boat belongs to what person and who's registered? I don't think they've thought this through.

Also, they purposefully kept paddlers in the dark, because they know we wouldn't support this. We (alder creek) only heard about this from lurking around on forums. The only time they made an announcement was after this stuff had already been put into law.