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Topic: Hobie Outback vs. Revolution vs. Adventure  (Read 13199 times)

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fishnut

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Down the line will probably be getting a set of Mirage Drives for myself and wife.
She wants stability so Im thinking Outback. For myself, I'm looking for stability but also something I can troll well with and maybe also use in the ocean. Thinking
Revolution. That way I can use either yak when she's not on the water. What about
the Adventure? Thinkin' too big. Any suggestions? We both already have Cobra Nav's.


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kallitype

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There's a previous thread on this, Zee summed it up very nicely. 
You must have been on the Supes prior to Gary Payton, even pre-Freddy Brown???  Spencer Haywood?  Gus Williams??
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ConeHeadMuddler

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Thanks, fishnut1, for asking the question that was jellin' in my own noggin.
I'd love to hear from all the Hobie Mirage enthusiasts here. I've only just gotten seriously into this yak angling, and not sure how seriously I would continue on with it, until recently. It kinda grows on you.
I'd eliminated the Hobies from my original potential selections due to the higher price-ranges of their craft, not being sure if I wanted to throw down that much moola right off for a pricey pedal craft.
Suggested list for a Revo was around $1,799 and I was seeing sale prices on decent other brands at about $1,000 less than that. So I sort of ruled out the Hobies for the time being. I picked up my Tarpon 140 on sale for $800.

But I'm now developing an interest in the Hobies, even though I had to go out into the garage last night and caress the hull of my Tarpon a bit, and mumble reassuring sweet nothings to her. After spending all of yesterday, from dawn til dusk, in an aluminum drift boat, I was feeling a little guilty about cheating on my latest flame. The guilt may have had more to do with feelings I had on the river concerning how superior a drift boat is for float fishing a swift freestone river than is a yak, but that driftboat was a real honey and I don't get to ride in her that often. A little "strange boating" once in a while doesn't hurt, does it? ::)

Uhhh, can anyone tell me if this is one of the warning signs for yak angling addiction?
Do I need help?
ConeHeadMuddler


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There's a previous thread on this, Zee summed it up very nicely. 
You must have been on the Supes prior to Gary Payton, even pre-Freddy Brown???  Spencer Haywood?  Gus Williams??
What KT said. This topic has been covered a bunch of times so a short search query will get you all the a seers you need.

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Uhhh, can anyone tell me if this is one of the warning signs for yak angling addiction?
Do I need help?

Yes and yes.   :P

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kallitype

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In my experience, the best cure for this malady is to hustle down to Hobie Northwest and plunk down the $$ for a pair of Hobies!!  My wife LOVES her Revo, and did not find any appreciable difference in stability between the Outback and the Revo, but she did notice a difference in the paddling effort---more for the Outback for the same speed/distance. She did not paddle an Adventure, though.
  If the price for a new boat is a deal breaker, they do come on the market from time to time, as folks either upgrade, or move to a dry state, or whatever. ( I just saw an Outback, 8 months old, for $1400 on Craigslist Bay area.)
Mary paid $1300 for her mint-condition white Revo, it came with a pair of nice chrome storage stands, and some goodies including anchor, dry bag, deck light, a 12ga flare gun, and some misc goodies.  If I ever decide to pull the trigger on a new Adventure, my red Revo will be on the block.
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ConeHeadMuddler

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Ahh, some fresh insight! I didn't try Holt's Revo when we fished, but he said it felt stable enough, and he could really scoot in that thang!

At 58 lbs dry (Mirage drive removed), the Revo's hull is around 20% lighter than my Tarpon 140 .
Wilderness Systems web site currently lists the weight at 70 lbs  However, just last year in the Spring/Summer issue of Kayak Angler magazine there was a large "Buyer's Guide" section where they listed a lighter weight, 62lbs, but my Tarpon feels heavier, and I read on another forum someone's claim that it actually weighs in at around 75lbs.
IF that is true (I'm going to weigh it), then I am disappointed in the false (lighter-than-it-actually-is) weight claim. I would never have bought a 14' yak with a hull weighing more than 70lbs dry weight, had I known. I was going by the 62 lb weight claim in the "buyer's Guide" when I decided that the Tarpon 140 sounded like the yak for me, and that was one of the final deciding factors when I made my purchase.

 Its still a great yak, just a little heavier than I wanted. I'm pushing 60, and relative lightness is a quality that I look for in a yak. I was definitely looking for a yak that was under 70 lbs. 62lbs really sounded good, but it was a lie.   Once you get it offloaded and finally into the water, however, it is a joy to paddle.

I'd better go torture myself some more in the home gym (got one set up in my "man cave") so I can handle it!

And again, back to the home gym!
« Last Edit: January 30, 2010, 08:51:29 AM by ConeHeadMuddler »
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Down the line will probably be getting a set of Mirage Drives for myself and wife...

http://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/index.php/topic,4107.15.html

Zee's summary post is the second to last in the thread.
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Thanks for the info boys, I'm just about to pull the pin on a revo but my dealer has an Outback on hand he's trying to sell for cheaper. I think I will go with the revo, nevertheless.
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Thanks for the info boys, I'm just about to pull the pin on a revo but my dealer has an Outback on hand he's trying to sell for cheaper. I think I will go with the revo, nevertheless.
T2
T2, I sure do love my Revo, purchased last summer, tis a joy! holt
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ConeHeadMuddler

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Well, I went out in the garage last night and there she was, lying there facing the wall, with her hull to me, totally unresponsive. I reached out to stroke the graceful curvature of her chineline, but she was cold to the touch. (The ambient room temp was only 45 degrees F)
I thought I heard her say "So you think I'm heavy? Are you saying I'm fat? And that fling you had last week with the driftboat!!!! Don't talk to me!"  
Or maybe I imagined it.
But I manned up and did what I had to do to get back in her good graces. I promised to take her out and play as soon as the conditions here got tolerable. And I promised her some new bling: state of the art electronics and a few other baubles.

I think things are skookum between us now. Her hull felt warmer to the touch when we parted.... but then again, that may only have been the room finally warming up, because I had turned on the space heater when I first walked in. :D
« Last Edit: February 04, 2010, 09:10:44 AM by ConeHeadMuddler »
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It was a dark and stormy  night.... 
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From my perspective I love my revo but if I had to buy another (and I will) I would probably get an adventure...but I did mostly puget sound outings...
Now you got me thinking that I should just sell my revo before I move...but on the other hand I kind of want a revo AND a revolution :)
As for stability of the revo I can't say much because i haven't tried many other yaks. I can say that I am 6'3" and 200 pounds (on a good day :) and I have not had any issues with it...accept if you slam the pedals all the way forward in the fartherest pedal configuration they do hit the forward bulkdhead (or whatever you call the area below the front hatch)...it hasn't been much of an issue for me because #1 I don't run the fartherest position on the pedals i run one notch back
and #2 when I did run the fartherest position I rarely took the entire travel of the pedals so I didn't have the issue
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