Very cool flag/light. Visi Carbon Pro

really???   a simple flag is all you need. how many of you are launching before first light? save your money and spent it on more time fishing and less time pimping.......keep it simple stupid!!!!

That's how I thought when I first got it.  Yah, it's a luxury.  Yah it's pricey. But for me personally, I use my 2 dr civic and a flag is just another long piece of equipment I have to stuff in.  The bike flags are too whippy in the wind I fish.  I'd have to deal with a mount anyways.  I bet the bike flags are like 20 bucks in Alaska.

**warning** minor thread hijack...

And as far as the light thing goes...somebody else chime in here about using the light...or am I the only nut trying to equip my Yak with lights (underwater)?  I haven't used it the visicarb light or my underwater lights yet.  I just need more darkness hours up here in Alaska before I try them out!  As long as I can stay awake, I have serious confidence it will catch certain species of fish.  We will see...soon....

Lol...



And I have two of these...





Mounted like this for my mini-x.  Haven't changed over to the outback yet.



Ok...back to the flag!

really???   a simple flag is all you need. how many of you are launching before first light? save your money and spent it on more time fishing and less time pimping.......keep it simple stupid!!!!

I have a bike flag now, but recently began targeting (unsuccessfully thus far) walleye for AOTY points.  Walleye like the dark, so I have been spending more time on the Willamette after dark.  I think it would be a good addition to make me more visible in the dark.  I could spend hours buying the parts and making something cheaper.  But, in the end I have realized I would rather spend the time fishing and buy a pre-made flag/light combo that makes me legal after dark than spend my time buying parts and manufacturing my own.  To me that is keeping it simple stupid.

really???   a simple flag is all you need. how many of you are launching before first light? save your money and spent it on more time fishing and less time pimping.......keep it simple stupid!!!!

Any kayak on navigable waters (including the Willamette and Columbia Rivers) should have a light on between sunset and sunrise.  I DO go out at these hours. Even on non-navigable waters, if its slightly dark, or foggy, that light is on.

If you don't like the price, there are plenty of DIY solutions out there.  In fact, YakAttack is going to be making some accessories just for DIY'ers.

If you don't need the light, don't worry about it.  But, if you do need the light, then keep it SAFE stupid!

To me, "stupid" is looking like a retard on a bike that has a flag and training wheels (beach cart) out on the water. ...Me... I think Ill pay for the safety and "coolness of the Visi Carbon Flag/light. The light is the "cool" part to me. Oh.. and yes- I push the limits of sunrise to sunset all the time. It will get used.

Back to my real question- How does anybody mount anything behind the seat on a Trident? There are no more hatches or access to reach through past the Rod Pod.

Rawkfish- I have to respectfully dissagree. I dont think the 4 pop rivets alone is enough for the RAM mount flag. There is a lot of leverage going on there, and the mushroomed rivets alone will pull through sooner or later.

Back to my real question- How does anybody mount anything behind the seat on a Trident? There are no more hatches or access to reach through past the Rod Pod.

Rawkfish- I have to respectfully dissagree. I dont think the 4 pop rivets alone is enough for the RAM mount flag. There is a lot of leverage going on there, and the mushroomed rivets alone will pull through sooner or later.

If you use a milk crate:
     - Simply add some PVC tubing with large zip ties.  I've been rolling this way for years.
     - Mount a scotty or Ram 90 degree mount to the crate a la kykfshr

If you want to mount directly to your yak, your options are limited. 
     - There are two flat spots, one on either side of your tank well.  You can easily install a flush mount Scotty or external RAM on one of these two postition. 
     - I've been toying with the idea of grinding the bottom of one of the raised Scotty mounts to match the V at the tail of my Trident and installing it with pop rivets.  They're strong as heck, don't leave much gap for water flow if they do fail and are easily replaceable. 

BTW: I believe that rawkfish is talking about the expanding rivets with the really long peddles.  Years of abuse tell me these rarely fail under leveraged load.  They're definitely way stronger than the expanding rubber washers used to install the flush mount rod holders at the factory.

-Spot-

Rivets aren't as weak as you think.  Most kayaks use rivets to secure accessory loops / pad eyes.

Edit:  Come to think of it, I think Fish n Dives use rivets to hold the pad eyes that the front and rear carry handles are attached to, so those 4 rivets (2 front and 2 back) hold the entire weight of the kayak.

Rivets aren't as weak as you think.  Most kayaks use rivets to secure accessory loops / pad eyes.

Edit:  Come to think of it, I think Fish n Dives use rivets to hold the pad eyes that the front and rear carry handles are attached to, so those 4 rivets (2 front and 2 back) hold the entire weight of the kayak.

Ahhh... This is true, however if you ever looked at the back side plastic the rivets are going to it is not merely just a sheet of plastic, but rather an extra bubble solid of plastic molded in from the factory.

Spot- I like your idea of just attaching it to the milk crate. This is actually sounding better and better to me. I must have been under a rock or something about the "kayak rivets" being actually different than the typical mushroom type pop rivet. I think these will work! http://www.austinkayak.com/products/268/Pop-Rivet-Black-Anodized.html

Rivets will hold fine.  I picked up a 69# kayak by a Carbon Pro last week.  It was attached to the YakAttack Mighty Mount which was held by self-tapping screws which have less holding power than rivets (no backing at all).

Speaking to Luther at YakAttack, a 72" VisiPole is possible, but not in the Carbon Pro.  Its his believe that the thin walled carbon is much too flexible, and he'd prefer to build longer lengths with fiberglass instead.

Reviving a thread.

So those of you that have bought one of these, have you used the light in the dark yet?  How was it for seeing around your kayak after dark?  Does it light out in front of you at all to help avoid any obsticles in the water?  Any info will be helpful.

I'm really interested in making this my next kayak purchase.

Reviving a thread.

So those of you that have bought one of these, have you used the light in the dark yet?  How was it for seeing around your kayak after dark?  Does it light out in front of you at all to help avoid any obsticles in the water?  Any info will be helpful.

I'm really interested in making this my next kayak purchase.

Yes, I've used mine in the dark.  It's not great for seeing by (when mounted) but it's all that and a candy bar if there are boats travelling where you're paddling.

Running down the trask tidewater one night I had the opportunity to stick my visicarbon light out the front to help me navigate a snaggy stretch.  Seemed to work pretty well but it's not a replacement for the head lamp I should have had in my bag. 

-Spot-

Disclaimer:  My visicarbon was provided to me as a promotional tool but I am not required to use it or say anything good about them. 

Disclaimer:  My visicarbon was provided to me as a promotional tool but I am not required to use it or say anything good about them.

But you are required to provide a review.  Where is it?   

-Allen

The light us great for being seen at night, but a headlamp is the way to go if you need to find something.

I won mine at the ORC, and liked it so much I convinced my store manager to order some.

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Ha! Who needs artificial light when the moon is getting full! OK, yesterday Mark and I were just lucky that there wasn't any cloud cover. The sun had set and the and the moon was providing most of our lighting. Each of us had neglected to bring a headlamp, nor did either of us have running lights on board. I had a small flashlight in the bottom of my pack, but the fading dark orange vestiges of sunset and the gleaming moon were just fine, so I didn't have to dig it out and hold it in my teeth while I paddled.

Hey Mark, how are your shoulders feeling? Myself, I feel invigorated!

 
  Cone Head Muddler,
  I was a little stiff this morning from our ,what do you think,roughly 14 mile paddle..
  Definitely ready to try out Jammer's peddle-powered Outback on Saturday.

I installed my Vis Carbon pro on my Outback last week but have yet to use it on the water. I used a mighty mount and installed it on the Stbd side rear behind the cross bungee. I wanted to be far enough back so it would be well out of the way from my fishing poles and the rear cargo area. I am hoping to use it on Sat for the Dino party on the Willy, that is if I don't have to leave town again before that. There have been times during the late fall when it was getting dark and the bass fishing was great but I did not want to get ran over by a wake boat heading home. So the light will be a welcome addition, I will feel safer with it. Since I work on the river nothing makes me madder that almost running over a kayaker at night with no light on. During the summer I see it allot and inform the yaker that they are not visible from the pilot house even when your paying attention. Not necessarily the case with some pleasure boaters, half the time they are half lit up. Some people say ya but I have the right of way, or it was their fault because of their negligence. That does not matter when your the one getting run over, hard to use a mirage drive when your legs are missing. I will ask the guys when I am out on the river if they think that the flag is visible enough without the pole extension.