NWKA AOTY (angler of the year)

Allen,

I'll have to think about it, but there are a couple ways I could add bonus points to the AOTY app. 

Brian

So essentially if you can make time for events, 10 or more yakfishers show, and nail a good targeted fish you get bonus points. Hmmm....

Personally I think that should be independent of the AOTY points. 150 pts. could easily be the  amount needed to take the cake. I mean AOTY is about getting out and fishing all kinds of species all year. Not really making events.

I would hate to see one of us slaying all year long and miss out on one event and lose the AOTY.
My $.02

Z

So essentially if you can make time for events, 10 or more yakfishers show, and nail a good targeted fish you get bonus points. Hmmm....

Personally I think that should be independent of the AOTY points. 150 pts. could easily be the  amount needed to take the cake. I mean AOTY is about getting out and fishing all kinds of species all year. Not really making events.

I would hate to see one of us slaying all year long and miss out on one event and lose the AOTY.
My $.02

Z

Yup, that's something I've been wrestling with.  To me the true AOTY can not only consistently fish well across all species all year long, but also can turn it up a notch and take the cake for a single event.

How about we limit the bonus points such that an individual can only win one bonus event and are not eligible to win points in events after that?  That effectively caps how many bonus points one can get.  Past winners can block others from gaining points by catching the biggest fish in other events, but they won't get additional points.

-Allen

So essentially if you can make time for events, 10 or more yakfishers show, and nail a good targeted fish you get bonus points. Hmmm....

Personally I think that should be independent of the AOTY points. 150 pts. could easily be the  amount needed to take the cake. I mean AOTY is about getting out and fishing all kinds of species all year. Not really making events.

I would hate to see one of us slaying all year long and miss out on one event and lose the AOTY.
My $.02

Z

I agree with Z on this. some of us in southern Oregon that have signed up for the tourney are just not gonna be able to make the long drive every trip seems to be. Maybe a side category on the AOTY page, but the points don't go to the AOTY. It would still be cool to see the fish people do catch at these events.

Damn!!, i got an idea, and its even a good one!! How about we all donate a small say 5-10 dollar item, either made or bought into a kitty and whoever posts the most points during the year of qualifying events wins the kitty.Could be a lure,line,caribeaners,floats,leashes,whatever.  Does this sound feasible? we could individually ship them to the person and deliver some in person too i guess.

Allen,
I tried 2 times to use the PayPal site and each time I got the following error message:

The recipient of this shopping cart link is not an approved shopping cart user. Please review your selection and try again.

Any suggestions??

Jay

Allen,
I tried 2 times to use the PayPal site and each time I got the following error message:

The recipient of this shopping cart link is not an approved shopping cart user. Please review your selection and try again.

Any suggestions??

Jay

You have a Paypal account?

-Allen

Allen,
I tried 2 times to use the PayPal site and each time I got the following error message:

The recipient of this shopping cart link is not an approved shopping cart user. Please review your selection and try again.

Any suggestions??

Jay

You have a Paypal account?

-Allen

Thought I'd be signing up for one as part of the process. Not true?

Jay

I believe you need to sign up for Paypal first.  If someone doesn't have a Paypal account or doesn't want to sign up for one, send me a PM and we can work out alternate payment methods.

-Allen

I have a question about the Panfish category.
  Is this only for freshwater panfish? even though i wouldn't mind having ocean perch count, i think it would be more fair for the inlanders to only have freshwater panfish count.

Agree or disagree?

I have a question about the Panfish category.
  Is this only for freshwater panfish? even though i wouldn't mind having ocean perch count, i think it would be more fair for the inlanders to only have freshwater panfish count.

Agree or disagree?

Freshwater only.

-Allen

Just to back up the freshwater only decision (in case anyone wanted to argue)..

Rule #9..
"Panfish are defined as the following common names: crappie, bluegill, sunfish (not Mola mola), and yellow perch."

The rules have been set since the beginning and aren't going to change for this year.  However, if anyone has ideas for next year please post them here.

Brian

While we're getting clarifications on rules:

Do C&R'd fish caught in an area where retention is not allowed count toward our point total?  i.e. Native Steelhead, non-finclipped Coho, costal cutt-throat etc.

I have a question about the Panfish category.
  Is this only for freshwater panfish? even though i wouldn't mind having ocean perch count, i think it would be more fair for the inlanders to only have freshwater panfish count.

I may be mistaken but all the perch I've caught in the ocean are in really shallow waters (1-3 ft) w/ surf. I doubt you could really target them well from a kayak. Not really conducive to kayak fishing IMO.

Z

That's a good question Spot.

These rules are based heavily on the rules developed for the NCKA AOTY tournament.  The intention of the rule was that only legally caught fish could be counted towards AOTY points.  In California at least it's illegal to fish for certain species in certain waters (even C&R) and we didn't want to allow those fish to be counted towards points.  Basically the intent of the rules was that they should be fair and that we didn't want anyone breaking the law to get points.  

My opinion is that natives and coastal cut-throat should be allowed when and where you are allowed to actively C&R fish for them here.  

For example, in Washington you can fish for steelhead (even natives) at night, but you can't in Oregon.  A night time WA caught native would count but an Oregon one wouldn't.

Also at issue are some of the nuances of C&R fishing for natives regarding handling.  

In Washington for example..

FRESHWATER: It is unlawful to totally remove salmon, steelhead, or Dolly Varden/Bull trout from the water if it is unlawful to retain those fish, or if the angler subsequently releases the salmon, steelhead, or Dolly Varden/Bull trout.

If you can get a good measurement while it's still partially in the water, I'd say you're good.  I don't think Oregon has such a regulation.



CBY, there are some surfperch (pile perch, rubber lips, striped perch)  that you can target from a kayak and I've done it in the past in Bodega Bay.   I'm sure you can find them hanging around docks inside Coos Bay this time of year in particular.

Brian

That's a good question Spot.

These rules are based heavily on the rules developed for the NCKA AOTY tournament.  The intention of the rule was that only legally caught fish could be counted towards AOTY points.  In California at least it's illegal to fish for certain species in certain waters (even C&R) and we didn't want to allow those fish to be counted towards points.  Basically the intent of the rules was that they should be fair and that we didn't want anyone breaking the law to get points.  

My opinion is that natives and coastal cut-throat should be allowed when and where you are allowed to actively C&R fish for them here.  

For example, in Washington you can fish for steelhead (even natives) at night, but you can't in Oregon.  A night time WA caught native would count but an Oregon one wouldn't.

Also at issue are some of the nuances of C&R fishing for natives regarding handling.  

In Washington for example..

FRESHWATER: It is unlawful to totally remove salmon, steelhead, or Dolly Varden/Bull trout from the water if it is unlawful to retain those fish, or if the angler subsequently releases the salmon, steelhead, or Dolly Varden/Bull trout.

If you can get a good measurement while it's still partially in the water, I'd say you're good.  I don't think Oregon has such a regulation.



CBY, there are some surfperch (pile perch, rubber lips, striped perch)  that you can target from a kayak and I've done it in the past in Bodega Bay.   I'm sure you can find them hanging around docks inside Coos Bay this time of year in particular.

Brian

I think the AOTY is pretty good the way it is. Z, surf perch like to hang in the shallows, but other ocean perch hang around pilings like Brian said, and also in the kelp beds.

Theres tons a spots for pile perch and the like here. I used to catch rubber lips off a pier in Cali all the time, big dinner plate size and fat. Those are fun and good eatin too. I hope i can find a spot with those here. Not a big fan of most smallish perch