Right of way - Fishing etiquette

A) Offer her an apology and some encouragement
B) Make endless fun of her inability to paddle effectively

Seems there should some way to combine options A and B 

Then I noticed this commercial kayak policy for the harbor.  It all makes sense in many ways except for this paragraph that I saw:

"Kayaks enjoy no privileges under the US Coast Guard navigation
rules. Kayaks are to yield to any powerboat they encounter.....
Under the rules of the road, it must be stressed that when a kayak
comes into contact with a powerboat, the kayak is responsible to avoid
any risk of collision."

From the USCG Nav rules page faq:

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/?pageName=navRulesFAQ#0.3_13

13. Where do Kayaks and Canoes fit into the Navigation Rules? Neither the International nor Inland Navigation Rules address "kayaks" or "canoes" per se, except in regards to "vessels under oars" in Rule 25 regarding lights.(Wali's read: have a hand light available so you can see the collision) One could infer that a "vessel under oars" should be treated as a "sailing vessel" since it is permitted to display the same lights as one, but, ultimately the issue of whom "gives way" would fall to what would be "required by the ordinary practice of seamen, or by the special circumstances of the case" (Rule 2).

Rule 2 sez:

RULE 2: RESPONSIBILITY

(a) Nothing in these Rules shall exonerate any vessel, or the owner, master, or crew thereof, from the consequences of any neglect to comply with these Rules or of the neglect of any precaution which may be required by the ordinary practice of seamen, or by the special circumstances of the case.

(b) In construing and complying with these Rules due regard shall be had to all dangers of navigation and collision and to any special circumstances, including the limitations of the vessels involved, which may make a departure from these Rules necessary to avoid immediate danger.

My read of RULE 2 is don't be stupid and don't try to use these rules to be stupid. As the Valdez Harbor Kayak Policy specifically mentions "commercial" kayaks, my guess is that some kayak tour operator(s) attempted to use the rules to be stupid. Possibly telling their clients of their right of way instead of giving them a quick paddle lesson. 

 

I just read what I wrote and realized: "Isn't it amazing how easy it is to damn from afar?"
I don't have any idea what tour operators in Valdez Alaska are telling their clients.   

Next time just smile big, splash water on her with your paddle and say "sema polepole tafadhali!

Next time just smile big, splash water on her with your paddle and say "sema polepole tafadhali!

lol.  Yup.  I agree with you on all points. 

I also was thinking "I wonder what the commercial kayak operators did to warrant this type of "clarification."

Can we keep the political BS out of this?  She might have been a dreaded and demonized liberal, or might have worshipped Michele Bachman---bottom line she was an ignorant weenie, and the best approach is to let her spoutings go in one ear, and out the other.  Don't get all bent out of shape, life is too short for obsessing on other people's stupidity.

Okay, I'm taking a deep breath and emptying the magazine on the paint marker. I think as wisdom goes, you hit it right on the head and have the best approach, with Spots being the second best. Good job Guys.. I got so mad when I read this last night, I forgot it wasn't even my issue and was ready for a battle..roflmao

So let me get this straight.  You're out for some me-time, trolling the vast ocean for dinner, and a lady-paddler saunters up next to you and begins to chat you up?  And you come on the internet to bitch about it?  Was she hot?  Does it matter?  This is Neptune's way of tipping his hat to you, bro.  Or crown.  Or whatever the hell he wears.  My last on-water encounter involved an enraged powerboater flexing his pecs at me as a means aof communication.  I digress.  Spot, as always, offers great wisdom.  But let me present to you option C, (provided you didn't enrage Neptune enough to make him think you're an ungrateful schmuck and therefore unworthy of an additional try).

C.  Apologize profusely and say that you are new to paddling.  Apologize again.  The ladies love this stuff.  Ask for some tips.  Ladies also enjoy giving advice to men.  Then offer to make it up to her by cooking an epic salmon dinner.  At your beach side cabin.  You don't really need a beach side cabin - you're simply casting at this point.  Peel off your dry top (it's summer - you'll be ok), and let her take in the python-sculpting prowess of your secret paddling life.  She will take the bait at this point. 

Reel her in, and send me some of that Alaskan smoked porter as a thank you gift.

all hail the jade!

So let me get this straight.  You're out for some me-time, trolling the vast ocean for dinner, and a lady-paddler saunters up next to you and begins to chat you up?  And you come on the internet to bitch about it?  Was she hot?  Does it matter?  This is Neptune's way of tipping his hat to you, bro.  Or crown.  Or whatever the hell he wears.  My last on-water encounter involved an enraged powerboater flexing his pecs at me as a means aof communication.  I digress.  Spot, as always, offers great wisdom.  But let me present to you option C, (provided you didn't enrage Neptune enough to make him think you're an ungrateful schmuck and therefore unworthy of an additional try).

C.  Apologize profusely and say that you are new to paddling.  Apologize again.  The ladies love this stuff.  Ask for some tips.  Ladies also enjoy giving advice to men.  Then offer to make it up to her by cooking an epic salmon dinner.  At your beach side cabin.  You don't really need a beach side cabin - you're simply casting at this point.  Peel off your dry top (it's summer - you'll be ok), and let her take in the python-sculpting prowess of your secret paddling life.  She will take the bait at this point. 

Reel her in, and send me some of that Alaskan smoked porter as a thank you gift.

lol.  Spot is wise, Jade is...Jade is... practical?   You know, I was so shocked I didn't even get a look at her.  You know you are getting too serious about this fishing stuff when you forget even to think about your "C" suggestion.

Ok, I've had nibbles while out kayak fishing.  But the cute ones are always in a tandem sea kayak just "touring" with their friends.  Touring? Uh, no.  Sit inside? no.  Tandem?  hmmmm...  ok, I digress.

So yah, probably shouldn't complain much.  I was concerned I didn't know the rules or it was some serious taboo given the attitude.  But Yah, even the undesirable ones (at the time) have friends!

If it ever works, I'll ask for your address!!!

I think I met that paddler before . I had the white hand to cross at a crosswalk and rode my bike across, she was coming down the hill in the bike lane and proclaimed she doesnt have to stop (despite the red light?).

  Bottom line is there is an abundance of idiots who try to misuse rules and jargon terms to get what they want.  I often just tell them , "Your selfishness and entitlement is why 911 happened.", and "to take the petty sniveling elsewhere and learn what sharing and courtesy is".   I often get abrupt with people that seem to go out of their way to grieve on others. We're obviously not powerboaters, any kayak just paddling can go around any other kayak, easily....fishing or not.