Braid to flouro knots

I normally use a uni to uni knot to go from braid to a flouro tippet, but its a bit of a pita and time consuming. Anybody got something better, quicker, stronger? (or at least strong enuf)
Might as well throw smaller in there too.

I normally use a uni to uni knot to go from braid to a flouro tippet, but its a bit of a pita and time consuming. Anybody got something better, quicker, stronger? (or at least strong enuf)
Might as well throw smaller in there too.

 loop triple stugeron knot.

I use the yukatan knot.  Fairly easy to tie, and has a slim profile in order to slip through that first eye easily.  I have also used a method similar to the Yukatan but a little different.  You begin by making a loop with your leader material.  Pass the braid through the loop and wrap it around the loop 6-8 times forward, then over lap those wraps on the way back down to the top of the loop the same number of times passing the braid back through the loop the same way it entered, lubricate and pull tight.  The most important part of the knot is to ensure the braid enters and exits the loop in the same manner.  The knot I just tried to explain is the strongest joint knot that I have ever used.  The only diference from the Yukatan is that the Yukatan knot weaks faster.  I hope my explanation is comprehendable, if not i got it off of a YouTube video some years ago.  Im sure with a bit of searching you can find a plethera of the same type of videos.

For ease tying and tidy size, I like the albright special knot.

I agree with bsteeves. I use an Albright knot for mono to braid. I do not think flourocarbon would be any different than mono in its ability to work with this knot.

FYI, the modified Albright kicked the Uni-Uni's butt in the knot wars:



The video shows the performance and how to tie it.

Guess I need to turn the cable back on. Need to catch up on the knots wars.

loop triple stugeron knot.

thats waaay simple, but doesn't it slip with braid?

I'm not sure I would generalize the knot wars results.

When tying uni-to-uni with braid, the knot is way stronger if you double over the braid.

That being said, I don't think there is much wrong with a the modified albright.

Easier to tie?  Well, that is going to vary with the user.  I can tie a double uni-to-uni pretty fast (acceptably fast for me), but I've been using that knot for a long time.  Practice makes perfect.

For albrights (and albright variants), I have to concentrate more to make sure they tighten correctly.  I find if you don't seat them correctly, there are problems with breakage, but that's true for any knot.

-Allen

Guess I need to turn the cable back on. Need to catch up on the knots wars.

loop triple stugeron knot.

thats waaay simple, but doesn't it slip with braid?

It has not slipped on me but I have not caught any big fish on it just bass. Here is another knot but it is more involved in making.

When tying uni-to-uni with braid, the knot is way stronger if you double over the braid.

-Allen

+1 I find that the Fluorocarbon would usually break if I don't double over the powerpro
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BTW, any of these knots we are talking about are not even close to 100% breaking strength.  When I'm tying gear that I absolutely know I don't want the knot to be a weak link I do the following.

1) Bimini loop in the braid.
2) Worm knot (aka Yucatan knot) to join the braid double and the mono/flouro.

For instance I did this on my 50# rigs down in Christmas.  I had 50# braid to 80# mono shock leader.  The breaking strength of this knot will be >50# due to the connection to the bimini loop.

-Allen

For instance I did this on ...Christmas.
-Allen

As in the island or is that how long its going to take to get a report!?!?!?!

(or did I miss something?)

...I have also used a method similar to the Yukatan but a little different.  You begin by making a loop with your leader material.  Pass the braid through the loop and wrap it around the loop 6-8 times forward, then over lap those wraps on the way back down to the top of the loop the same number of times passing the braid back through the loop the same way it entered, lubricate and pull tight.  The most important part of the knot is to ensure the braid enters and exits the loop in the same manner.  The knot I just tried to explain is the strongest joint knot that I have ever used.  The only diference from the Yukatan is that the Yukatan knot weaks faster.

Your modified Yucatan knot sounds EXACTLY like a modified albright.

BTW, any of these knots we are talking about are not even close to 100% breaking strength.  When I'm tying gear that I absolutely know I don't want the knot to be a weak link I do the following.

1) Bimini loop in the braid.
2) Worm knot (aka Yucatan knot) to join the braid double and the mono/flouro.

For instance I did this on my 50# rigs down in Christmas.  I had 50# braid to 80# mono shock leader.  The breaking strength of this knot will be >50# due to the connection to the bimini loop.

-Allen

I've never tried a Bimini on braided. Only with 40lb mono on my Ulua Cliff gear and trolling gear back home, because the mono stretches which gives the Bimini its shock cord effect. I'll have to try that out. I've got some 15lb Powerpro on some lighter spinning tackle that I might try out with some 30 lb leader for jigging. Thanks.

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Quote from: The Murf on February 17, 2012, 01:39:25 pm

...I have also used a method similar to the Yukatan but a little different.  You begin by making a loop with your leader material.  Pass the braid through the loop and wrap it around the loop 6-8 times forward, then over lap those wraps on the way back down to the top of the loop the same number of times passing the braid back through the loop the same way it entered, lubricate and pull tight.  The most important part of the knot is to ensure the braid enters and exits the loop in the same manner.  The knot I just tried to explain is the strongest joint knot that I have ever used.  The only diference from the Yukatan is that the Yukatan knot weaks faster.

Your modified Yucatan knot sounds EXACTLY like a modified albright.

It may be exactly like a modified Albright I never bothered to learn the name, just know it works great!

Why are the albright, yucatan/worm, or modified albright any different, except in the way you tie them.  Think about it, you're just wrapping one line around the other.  OK, so the modifiied albriught has more wraps, but I think they end up "seating" the same way in the end.

-Allen