Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
May 04, 2025, 01:22:34 PM

Login with username, password and session length

Recent Topics

[May 03, 2025, 06:39:16 PM]

[May 03, 2025, 05:50:52 PM]

by jed
[May 02, 2025, 09:57:11 AM]

[May 01, 2025, 05:53:19 PM]

[April 26, 2025, 04:27:54 PM]

[April 23, 2025, 11:10:07 AM]

by [WR]
[April 23, 2025, 09:15:13 AM]

[April 21, 2025, 10:44:08 AM]

[April 17, 2025, 04:48:17 PM]

[April 17, 2025, 08:45:02 AM]

by jed
[April 11, 2025, 01:03:22 PM]

[April 11, 2025, 06:19:31 AM]

[April 07, 2025, 07:03:34 AM]

[April 05, 2025, 08:50:20 PM]

[March 31, 2025, 06:17:42 PM]

Picture Of The Month



Guess who's back?
jed with a spring Big Mack

Topic: Kayaking Fog and current  (Read 25270 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Noah

  • Sturgeon
  • *******
  • Cabby Strong!
  • Location: Tigard
  • Date Registered: Mar 2011
  • Posts: 3596
This is up North in the morning, about 6:00 AM. The further offshore you got the thicker it became.


polepole

  • Administrator
  • Sturgeon
  • *****
  • NorthWest Kayak Anglers
  • Location: San Jose, CA :(
  • Date Registered: Apr 2006
  • Posts: 10095


Mark Collett

  • Sturgeon
  • *******
  • Make It Happen
  • Location: Between the Willapa's
  • Date Registered: May 2011
  • Posts: 2022

    Well written Allen,
  Let's all hope this arcticle and Willbd's expirence will help someone else out in the future.As several people have alluded to--the sea can be a cruel mistress...
Life is short---live it tall.

Be kinder than necessary--- everyone is fighting some kind of battle.

Sailors may be struck down at any time, in calm or in storm, but the sea does not do it for hate or spite.
She has no wrath to vent. Nor does she have a hand in kindness to extend.
She is merely there, immense, powerful, and indifferent


Northwoods

  • Sturgeon
  • *******
  • Formerly sumpNZ
  • Location: Sedro-Woolley, WA
  • Date Registered: Nov 2011
  • Posts: 2308
Formerly sumpNZ
2012 ORC 5th Place



Sailfish

  • Lingcod
  • *****
  • Location: Monterey County
  • Date Registered: Apr 2008
  • Posts: 215
Thanks for the well written article Allen.
"Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass...it's about learning how to dance in the rain."


willbd

  • Lingcod
  • *****
  • Location: Woodburn Oregon
  • Date Registered: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 317
Allen,
Nicely written but it is weird to read about what you did over the weekend!


topwater

  • Rockfish
  • ****
  • Location: Port Angeles
  • Date Registered: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 137
I have been thinking about this thread a bit.  One question to honestly ask yourself is whether you would have paddled out into the fog alone or if there wasn't a tournament going on.  That should be how you make decisions. 

I stated earlier that fog was a "no go" for me, but I do not think I was being entirely honest.  It is a no-go for a large number of areas I like to fish due to large numbers of other boats, including pleasure boats, sail boats, ferries, commercial trollers, tugs, freighters, etc.  But there are areas close to shore with rough launches that I would go out to because there are no power boats in the area and I am comfortable in those particular areas. 


willbd

  • Lingcod
  • *****
  • Location: Woodburn Oregon
  • Date Registered: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 317
This is off ifish....
I could have added this to the minimal skills for offshore captains, but this a little different.
On Saturday, after fishing all day out of Newport, we returned to the jetties only to find that the fog was so thick, it was difficult to see beyond the front of the boat. I slowed down before arriving at the bar, and noted through the fog a few other boats.
Now, I have been in thick fog before and it can be pretty disorientating, and at first I was a bit confused as the boats around me were.
There was a hesitation to go forward by the group, and thinking about it, I now understand why. If you rely on your GPS to get you into and out of the big blue, normally there is no problem. But if you are in thick fog, and slow down to a few miles per hour, then the GPS is pretty useless, as it can give you good information while moving, but very poor information when you are nearly stopped.

to read more go to this link. http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?p=4164587#post4164587


Justin

  • Sturgeon
  • *******
  • Location: Baker City, OR
  • Date Registered: May 2011
  • Posts: 1899
I don't this there is too much difference between handheld GPS and FF combos but my handheld gives me great information while I"m stopped.....  I don't usually check it while moving!
aka - JoeSnuffy

Stand UP! Stand Up and Shout!!!

http://www.youtube.com/user/OutdoorsJustin?feature=mhee


micahgee

  • Sturgeon
  • *******
  • Location: W. Seattle
  • Date Registered: May 2011
  • Posts: 1338
I don't this there is too much difference between handheld GPS and FF combos but my handheld gives me great information while I"m stopped.....  I don't usually check it while moving!

+1

My handheld Garmin, 72H works just fine at slow speeds (kokanee trolling at approx 1mph for instance). Edit: I use a Garmin 76map and have the 72H as backup. Both work well.

Quote
But if you are in thick fog, and slow down to a few miles per hour, then the GPS is pretty useless,

Maybe its the type of GPS he was using, but at a few miles per hour, my garmin GPS was very useful out there in the fog!
« Last Edit: June 21, 2012, 10:43:29 PM by micahgee »
“A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.” - Antoine de Saint-Exupery

www.heroesonthewater.org


Deluxeharley

  • Lingcod
  • *****
  • "Live like Ron"
  • Location: Woodburn
  • Date Registered: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 239
Just wanted to be post #100 Bryan glad that all worked out OK and you kept your cool. Dale
My New Motto is.... "Live like Ron"


Lee

  • Iris
  • Sturgeon
  • *******
  • Fuck Cancer!
  • Location: Graham, WA
  • Date Registered: Jul 2009
  • Posts: 6091
+2  hand helds are small and designed for hiking, so they work great at slow speed and fit nicely in the hull as a backup.

Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk 2
 


Cowpokey

  • Perch
  • ***
  • Location: Soju Tent
  • Date Registered: Jun 2012
  • Posts: 69
I've used several GPS units, from non-mapping handhelds of the late '90s to more modern vessle mounted units with detailed maps.  My experience with all of them has been good.   Keep in mind, the little numbers is "where it's at", especially when small variations like moving at slow speed is what's happening.  If you are looking at the screen (picture of you {little arrow in the center of the screen} and the surrounding world) showing where you are...if you aren't zoomed in close enough it won't look like you are moving in relation to the rest of the world.  Of course, if you are zoomed in so close that you get a good track of were you've moved you likely won't be able to see the "shore line".

Hopefully that ramble above is translated to usable information, it makes sense in my head but could muddy the water to y'all...I work bette with pictures and hand gestures. :P


topwater

  • Rockfish
  • ****
  • Location: Port Angeles
  • Date Registered: Jun 2011
  • Posts: 137
i agree that a gps can not be helpful navigating when not moving, but disagree that slow speed makes navigating via gps worthless.  consider the gps's on our kayaks.  we get good readings off ours navigating going anywhere from 1-5 mph.  that is a slow crawl for our brothers and sisters in the powerboat division.  the only difference is that slow speeds can make current and wind have more impact on your heading versus going 15-30 knots.


willbd

  • Lingcod
  • *****
  • Location: Woodburn Oregon
  • Date Registered: Jul 2011
  • Posts: 317
i agree that a gps can not be helpful navigating when not moving, but disagree that slow speed makes navigating via gps worthless.  consider the gps's on our kayaks.  we get good readings off ours navigating going anywhere from 1-5 mph.  that is a slow crawl for our brothers and sisters in the powerboat division.  the only difference is that slow speeds can make current and wind have more impact on your heading versus going 15-30 knots.


Exactly. I never use the GPS part of my finder when moving slowly in the current. If I had I would have probably had seen what i was seeing on my map screen. I was moving but not in the direction I thought. At first I thought my GPS was wrong. Then I said to self you need to believe it and try to get your head around what you are seeing.
As I get more data and thinking of what error or errors I made that day. I came to the conclusion that it was 90% mental. 
« Last Edit: June 21, 2012, 07:09:20 PM by willbd »